Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Stevenson
7
20%
Kovalev
11
31%
Beterbiev
9
26%
Gvozdyk
5
14%
Bivol
3
9%
 
Total votes: 35

ValMar
Welterweight
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by ValMar »

Stuarty30 wrote:
ValMar wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Paul Smith is stepping up to LHW. Why's he not included in the poll?
Simply, I can not memorise all Smiths.
Paul 'Smigga' Smith. He's an absolute beast!
Is he one of the brothers (Callum & co) ?
Honestly, I have not watched him.
A beast ? I would like that you are right.
Tarkus
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by Tarkus »

Gvozdyk will clean up the division. Apart from prime Kovalev noone there has a chance to beat him.
Stuarty
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by Stuarty »

ValMar wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
ValMar wrote:
Simply, I can not memorise all Smiths.
Paul 'Smigga' Smith. He's an absolute beast!
Is he one of the brothers (Callum & co) ?
Honestly, I have not watched him.
A beast ? I would like that you are right.
He's the best boxer I've ever seen
ValMar
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by ValMar »

Stuarty30 wrote:
ValMar wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Paul 'Smigga' Smith. He's an absolute beast!
Is he one of the brothers (Callum & co) ?
Honestly, I have not watched him.
A beast ? I would like that you are right.
He's the best boxer I've ever seen
Are you kidding me ?
Stuarty
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by Stuarty »

ValMar wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
ValMar wrote:
Is he one of the brothers (Callum & co) ?
Honestly, I have not watched him.
A beast ? I would like that you are right.
He's the best boxer I've ever seen
Are you kidding me ?
No! Haven't you seen him in action? Like poetry in motion
BitPlayer
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by BitPlayer »

Paul Smith gonna beat them all, then show the Cruiserweights how its done. He was weight drained when he lost.
Tanzio
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by Tanzio »

WBSS it in a perfect world:

Krushedner v Bivol
Barrera v Alvarez

Jack v Gvozdyk
Stevenson v Beterbiev
boxing_rocks
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by boxing_rocks »

BitPlayer wrote:Paul Smith gonna beat them all, then show the Cruiserweights how its done. He was weight drained when he lost.
Alexander Brand will beat Smith and the rest of them.
gilgamesh
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by gilgamesh »

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
PsychoGamerTwo wrote:Bivol couldn't even stop a 9-7 guy last year... Jack has improved so much, fought Dirrell, Groves, Bute, DeGale & Cleverly, and no one managed to beat him. Bivol won't either. I'd be surprised if Jack does not beat the poo out of him. He's gotta hope he lands a perfect lucky one like Edwards did.
That guy you mentioned that Bivol didn't stop has only been stopped once, and it was via 12th round TKO. I think it's safe to say he's a pretty durable guy in spite of his poor record.
Might be, but he hasn't fought nobody either, and clearly isn't on the same level as Jack. You think Jack would have been stopped against his opponents?
No
Best Coast
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by Best Coast »

BitPlayer wrote:Paul Smith gonna beat them all, then show the Cruiserweights how its done. He was weight drained when he lost.
LOL!! :lol:

For which one of Paul's SEVEN losses was he "weight drained"? Was it his first loss to Steve Bendall or his recent lopsided decision loss to Tyron Zeuge?

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/182945
Best Coast
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by Best Coast »

ValMar wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
ValMar wrote:
Is he one of the brothers (Callum & co) ?
Honestly, I have not watched him.
A beast ? I would like that you are right.
He's the best boxer I've ever seen
Are you kidding me ?
They're putting you on amigo. Paul Smith is a faded veteran who was never that good to begin with!!

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/182945
Lackeos
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by Lackeos »

For a short period, it will be Kovalev. But in the long run, it will be Gilberto Ramirez, who isn't even on the poll. I should add that the poll had a lot of space left over for other names, like Gilberto Ramirez, who should have been on the poll. Also, the contents of the poll seem to be biased towards containing all of ValMar's favorite fighters, plus Stevenson.
boxing_rocks
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by boxing_rocks »

Lackeos wrote:For a short period, it will be Kovalev. But in the long run, it will be Gilberto Ramirez, who isn't even on the poll. I should add that the poll had a lot of space left over for other names, like Gilberto Ramirez, who should have been on the poll. Also, the contents of the poll seem to be biased towards containing all of ValMar's favorite fighters, plus Stevenson.
Ramirez is not a strong puncher at 168, and he will be relatively feather-fisted at 175. He is not a defensive fighter, so I don't see how he could succeed at 175.
Lackeos
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by Lackeos »

boxing_rocks wrote:
Lackeos wrote:For a short period, it will be Kovalev. But in the long run, it will be Gilberto Ramirez, who isn't even on the poll. I should add that the poll had a lot of space left over for other names, like Gilberto Ramirez, who should have been on the poll. Also, the contents of the poll seem to be biased towards containing all of ValMar's favorite fighters, plus Stevenson.
Ramirez is not a strong puncher at 168, and he will be relatively feather-fisted at 175. He is not a defensive fighter, so I don't see how he could succeed at 175.
Well, he's taller than most of the people in the poll, has a longer reach than most of them, he ranks higher p4p than most of them, and is almost a decade younger than some of them. Ramirez and Bivol should be expected to improve more than the other names in the poll, given their ages. Also, let's not forget, a couple of years from now, most of the names in the poll will have moved-up to CW, meanwhile Ramirez will have moved-up to LHW. Finally, I should point out that Eubank and maybe some other SMW's are unlikely to move up to LHW anytime soon, because he only recently moved-up from MW.
ValMar
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by ValMar »

Best Coast wrote:
ValMar wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote: He's the best boxer I've ever seen
Are you kidding me ?
They're putting you on amigo. Paul Smith is a faded veteran who was never that good to begin with!!

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/182945
Su amigo para sus padres. :TU:
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

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Yarde
ValMar
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by ValMar »

Lackeos wrote:For a short period, it will be Kovalev. But in the long run, it will be Gilberto Ramirez, who isn't even on the poll. I should add that the poll had a lot of space left over for other names, like Gilberto Ramirez, who should have been on the poll. Also, the contents of the poll seem to be biased towards containing all of ValMar's favorite fighters, plus Stevenson.
I have no "favorite fighters" at LHW, but I like to watch all mentioned on the poll. I intented to put Jack on the poll, but I put Bivol, just now, I feel they might be even, but I feel that Bivol might achieve more than Jack in the future.
Frankly, I did not think about Ramirez as LHW ruler, but he might be on the top, but not before 2020, I have to mention Eubank,too, but I am not sure about his natural weight.
Enlightened-One
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by Enlightened-One »

Beterbiev will rule.
PsychoGamerTwo
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by PsychoGamerTwo »

gilgamesh wrote:
PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
That guy you mentioned that Bivol didn't stop has only been stopped once, and it was via 12th round TKO. I think it's safe to say he's a pretty durable guy in spite of his poor record.
Might be, but he hasn't fought nobody either, and clearly isn't on the same level as Jack. You think Jack would have been stopped against his opponents?
No
:TU:
gilgamesh
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by gilgamesh »

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
Might be, but he hasn't fought nobody either, and clearly isn't on the same level as Jack. You think Jack would have been stopped against his opponents?
No
:TU:
For the record. When I say that I think Bivol is going to beat Badou Jack this isn't me saying that I think Badou Jack sucks. It's me saying that I think Dmitry Bivol is a solid young talent, and is capable of beating good fighters.
SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

I heard they're not likely to fight next. Bivol is on the Monte Carlo show in Nov.
gilgamesh
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by gilgamesh »

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I heard they're not likely to fight next. Bivol is on the Monte Carlo show in Nov.
Who's he fighting in Monte Carlo? Probably the dreaded TBA for now huh?
keithmoonhangover
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by keithmoonhangover »

asdfjkl wrote:Kovalev will allways rule above Ward, we have all clearly and easely seen that.
Put that crack pipe down, it'll give you a migraine.
asdfjkl
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by asdfjkl »

keithmoonhangover wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Kovalev will allways rule above Ward, we have all clearly and easely seen that.
Put that crack pipe down, it'll give you a migraine.
Never used it, watch the fights plz...
keithmoonhangover
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Re: Ward retires, who will rule at LHW ?

Post by keithmoonhangover »

asdfjkl wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Kovalev will allways rule above Ward, we have all clearly and easely seen that.
Put that crack pipe down, it'll give you a migraine.
Never used it, watch the fights plz...
I did and Ward won them both. But then you can't spell easily. :OhYes:
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