Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Parker vs. Fury Winner?

Poll ended at 11 Dec 2016, 07:11

Joseph Parker
100
61%
Hughie Fury
65
39%
 
Total votes: 165

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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by Nightmare Roy »

Glass Joe wrote:Parker like Charles Martin someone gifted with a belt.

As for the decision. Bet everyone thought when the MC announced the 118-110 score cards it was going to Fury.
100% I thought that.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by lefty »

I'm really glad I didn't pay for that. I don't like to not pay for PPV events but that was never a PPV fight and the fight itself was absolutely terrible.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

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deadpan wrote:Mick just said Hughie had shades of Ali tonight.

Baba?
Thats nothing. Amir Khan said, many greats fight from the backfoot like Ali, me.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by milpool »

deadpan wrote:Mick just said Hughie had shades of Ali tonight.

Baba?
No, Bongo.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by keithmoonhangover »

Mighty Atom wrote:
Neil Gee wrote:AJ will crush Parker.
Mate, Derek Chisora will crush Parker.
Parker has no place in a ring with a top 5 heavyweight
No chance Chisora wins.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by rd350lc »

Outboxing involves mixing in a sufficient amount of offense, not moving 95 percent, missing with flicky jabs from way too far out, and holding like an octopus.[/quote]

A bit like how Tyson beat Wlad and it was hailed by some as a masterclass :confused:
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by Ossyrules »

rd350lc wrote:
jameswilson wrote:For all those who moan about Sky's bias commentary I present to you Barry Jones tonight.
:lol: , his script was given to him long before hand

Funny when they asked woodhall , well actually I've got Parker in front .
Richie is total class act, no bias. The only man I've heard admit he lost a fight after he had been given a decision. He has no agenda
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

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The fight was tedious. Fury was making Parker miss mostly and landing flicking jabs. Can't really criticise any of the cards, it's a problem with the scoring system. If each round is very close if you think one boxer is winning almost all of them by a whisker you will get a wide score. Just because they are next to impossible to score doesn't mean you score each round alternately to each boxer.

I don't believe you should score depending on the direction one boxer is moving regardless of his success. I'm guessing it was the 'punches landed with sufficient force' was the problem for Fury. Fury clearly outlanded Parker though. Once he was comfortable he could outspeed Parker he should have adopted the stick and move style to land combos before skating away.

Fury has a horrible style so i'm not sorry to not to have to watch him in with top opponents.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by BitPlayer »

Grilling Machine wrote:
skanksta wrote:Fury outboxed Parker, but with such little workrate, no urgency, zero power. Never pressed.
Parker was frustrated and barely landed a punch, but at least he was trying to fight. Trying to throw.. .
Exactly my take. I had Parker five ahead in the end, but at least three of those rounds were scored on aggression and Fury not landing enough to negate the advantageous positioning of that aggression.

Parker was getting himself into the better positions and would've — I suspect — come out better had Fury engaged. I'd have been happy to give it to Fury had he counterpunched with some conviction, instead of looking like he was mostly securing his position for just long enough to move away again.
Just being aggressive shouldn't win you shit if you're not landing.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by rossij8 »

Glass Joe wrote:Parker like Charles Martin someone gifted with a belt.

As for the decision. Bet everyone thought when the MC announced the 118-110 score cards it was going to Fury.
I could tell from his voice the home fighter lost - almost disappointed
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

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Fury did show signs of a good chin, I'll give him that.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

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Tarkus wrote:
deadpan wrote:Mick just said Hughie had shades of Ali tonight.

Baba?
Thats nothing. Amir Khan said, many greats fight from the backfoot like Ali, me.
:o
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by deadpan »

milpool wrote:
deadpan wrote:Mick just said Hughie had shades of Ali tonight.

Baba?
No, Bongo.
That was a 118-110 response. :clap:
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by Grilling Machine »

BitPlayer wrote:Just being aggressive shouldn't win you poo if you're not landing.
That's a valid view, but I think it only works if you make the aggressor pay. If your tactics invite aggression and you dilly around it, aggression wins on my card for its positivity. If nothing else separates a round, as routinely happened here, I opted for Parker.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

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I think Parker and his team will be chasing AJ for the big bucks next.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

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rd350lc wrote:Outboxing involves mixing in a sufficient amount of offense, not moving 95 percent, missing with flicky jabs from way too far out, and holding like an octopus.
A bit like how Tyson beat Wlad and it was hailed by some as a masterclass :confused:[/quote]

Exactly like Tyson beat Wlad EXCEPT...

Tyson was busy.
His punches were hard enough to count
He didn't look like he was running and about to be KO'ed the moment he stood still.
He showed little bursts of aggression

Everything that Hughie didn't show.
Tyson's was a masterclass (boring tho' it was) Hughie's was an embarrassment.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by rossij8 »

Grilling Machine wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:Just being aggressive shouldn't win you poo if you're not landing.
That's a valid view, but I think it only works if you make the aggressor pay. If your tactics invite aggression and you dilly around it, aggression wins on my card for its positivity. If nothing else separates a round, as routinely happened here, I opted for Parker.
I think that's absolutely spot on :clap:
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

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Nightmare Roy wrote:I think Parker and his team will be chasing AJ for the big bucks next.
I'd prefer AJ to fight the winner of Wilder-Ortiz. Parker would be easier though!
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by paddy chavez »

deadpan wrote:Mick just said Hughie had shades of Ali tonight.

Baba?
He did with his feet and speed of punch he just didn't land his punches ...so shades of Ali is fair ....he didn't have Ali's accuracy of punch though
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

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skanksta wrote:
rd350lc wrote:Outboxing involves mixing in a sufficient amount of offense, not moving 95 percent, missing with flicky jabs from way too far out, and holding like an octopus.
A bit like how Tyson beat Wlad and it was hailed by some as a masterclass :confused:
Exactly like Tyson beat Wlad EXCEPT...

Tyson was busy.
His punches were hard enough to count
He didn't look like he was running and about to be KO'ed the moment he stood still.
He showed little bursts of aggression

Everything that Hughie didn't show.
Tyson's was a masterclass (boring tho' it was) Hughie's was an embarrassment.[/quote]

Looking like he was going to get KO'd ? His chin is fine .
Instead of running he Tyson threw in the odd shuffle and dance move .
It was a very similar performance .
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

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lefty wrote:
Nightmare Roy wrote:I think Parker and his team will be chasing AJ for the big bucks next.
I'd prefer AJ to fight the winner of Wilder-Ortiz. Parker would be easier though!
I think both of those fights will happen next year

Strap season baby!!
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by Grilling Machine »

rossij8 wrote:I think that's absolutely spot on :clap:
You have to return fire effectively to make backpedalling score. I'll score in favour of the evader if they're so brilliant that they win the round on energy expenditure, but Fury's tactics didn't tire Parker a great deal (no more than himself), and that's why I didn't score many rounds to him.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by MaxiBoxc »

This was champion fight, wasn't it?
No, it was f***ing circus!
Joshua could kill both in the same evening.
But 114-114... it's great finita! :clap:
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Post by Exoddus »

I had Parker the winner by 4 rounds.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

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rd350lc wrote:
skanksta wrote:
rd350lc wrote:Outboxing involves mixing in a sufficient amount of offense, not moving 95 percent, missing with flicky jabs from way too far out, and holding like an octopus.
A bit like how Tyson beat Wlad and it was hailed by some as a masterclass :confused:
Exactly like Tyson beat Wlad EXCEPT...

Tyson was busy.
His punches were hard enough to count
He didn't look like he was running and about to be KO'ed the moment he stood still.
He showed little bursts of aggression

Everything that Hughie didn't show.
Tyson's was a masterclass (boring tho' it was) Hughie's was an embarrassment.
Looking like he was going to get KO'd ? His chin is fine .
Instead of running he Tyson threw in the odd shuffle and dance move .
It was a very similar performance .[/quote]

It WAS a very similar performance, but wherever the line is between trying to steal a fight and not deserving shit and outboxing someone serenely off the back foot is - Tyson crossed it and Hughie was well short.
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