The Future of Hughie Fury?

[Tomasino]

I'll have to watch it but he didn't sound out of his depth on the radio, just got the impression he lacked the power to really deter Parker with anything he landed so Parker was able to just press the fight, and land the best shots.

He wasnt out of his depth with Parker as they are as poor as each other, he just didnt want to take the title from him. Its not as if Parker had a deadly punch and Fury jusy kept his distance. Fury just didnt win the rounds or dominate the fight.

Or even try, looked like he was trying to survive, but it wasn't as if he was under heavy fire. Terrible effort. Maybe he thought his dad had bought the judges as well as his opponent?

[Mimmy]

I'll have to watch it but he didn't sound out of his depth on the radio, just got the impression he lacked the power to really deter Parker with anything he landed so Parker was able to just press the fight, and land the best shots.

He wasnt out of his depth with Parker as they are as poor as each other, he just didnt want to take the title from him. Its not as if Parker had a deadly punch and Fury jusy kept his distance. Fury just didnt win the rounds or dominate the fight.

Or even try, looked like he was trying to survive, but it wasn't as if he was under heavy fire. Terrible effort. Maybe he thought his dad had bought the judges as well as his opponent?

Again I dont think he was trying to survive, I dont know what his game plan was as he never unloaded and punches. I think there was one flurry and that came from Parker. I just got the impression that he wasnt interested or didnt want to win a title. there was no conviction or passion from him.

[Tomasino]

He wasnt out of his depth with Parker as they are as poor as each other, he just didnt want to take the title from him. Its not as if Parker had a deadly punch and Fury jusy kept his distance. Fury just didnt win the rounds or dominate the fight.

Or even try, looked like he was trying to survive, but it wasn't as if he was under heavy fire. Terrible effort. Maybe he thought his dad had bought the judges as well as his opponent?

Again I dont think he was trying to survive, I dont know what his game plan was as he never unloaded and punches. I think there was one flurry and that came from Parker. I just got the impression that he wasnt interested or didnt want to win a title. there was no conviction or passion from him.

Well what would make a man in a title fight not try and win? Remember his pops and Mick stood to lose an absolute fortune if he got beat...

[Stuarty]

Don't really care. Hopefully he goes away like Tyson.

How dare you insult the Gypsy King

[tigermoth87]

Because Cornish is low-risk enough to not get an upset, a better name than him facing Pavel Wlodkrap 12-9 from a Polish building site and either him or Allen would have been the right opponent for Fury to get some rounds under his belt in a low risk fight after a year out and a illness. Then he could step up to someone Euro or fringe-world level.

Parker was a step too far after his lay off. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Hughie's bounceback fight is vs Cornish.

Fair enough you must be a fan of Hughie. I just see him as a shite boxer, who hasn't improved or fought anyone of note but was gifted a world title shot, in which he shat himself. If he fights Cornish next, what does that say about him as a 'world title challenger'?

I like Hughie, he's skilled but shouldn't have had a title shot yet and hasn't done anything to deserve one.

He's young but like I said, he needs another 2, preferably 3 or 4 fights to get to that level. Especially coming from a year out with illness. A British level opponent like Cornish or Allen, then a handful at fringe level.

Ideally I'd see him face Cornish/Allen/Lewison as a bounce back fight, a couple of decent names & top 30 fighters like Adamek and Mansour, someone just outside world level (Hammer, Duhaupas, Takem) before stepping up to world level again. Preferably I'd have liked him to go that route rather than getting an undeserved shot vs Parker.

[Mimmy]

Or even try, looked like he was trying to survive, but it wasn't as if he was under heavy fire. Terrible effort. Maybe he thought his dad had bought the judges as well as his opponent?

Again I dont think he was trying to survive, I dont know what his game plan was as he never unloaded and punches. I think there was one flurry and that came from Parker. I just got the impression that he wasnt interested or didnt want to win a title. there was no conviction or passion from him.

Well what would make a man in a title fight not try and win? Remember his pops and Mick stood to lose an absolute fortune if he got beat...

The better man won on the night. But im sure if hughie had been training like 'Rocky' he could have mixed it up a bit. I really dont know, I just think he had a great chance to beat the weakest of the champions. Possibly punch power had something to do with it as well.

[Tomasino]

Because Cornish is low-risk enough to not get an upset, a better name than him facing Pavel Wlodkrap 12-9 from a Polish building site and either him or Allen would have been the right opponent for Fury to get some rounds under his belt in a low risk fight after a year out and a illness. Then he could step up to someone Euro or fringe-world level.

Parker was a step too far after his lay off. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Hughie's bounceback fight is vs Cornish.

Fair enough you must be a fan of Hughie. I just see him as a shite boxer, who hasn't improved or fought anyone of note but was gifted a world title shot, in which he shat himself. If he fights Cornish next, what does that say about him as a 'world title challenger'?

I like Hughie, he's skilled but shouldn't have had a title shot yet and hasn't done anything to deserve one.

He's young but like I said, he needs another 2, preferably 3 or 4 fights to get to that level. Especially coming from a year out with illness. A British level opponent like Cornish or Allen, then a handful at fringe level.

Ideally I'd see him face Cornish/Allen/Lewison as a bounce back fight, a couple of decent names & top 30 fighters like Adamek and Mansour, someone just outside world level (Hammer, Duhaupas, Takem) before stepping up to world level again. Preferably I'd have liked him to go that route rather than getting an undeserved shot vs Parker.

fair dos. The path of least resistance is how he did it, having his dad buy him the shot instead of earning it and being prepared for it. Your way would be too difficult for Hughie.

[Sklar]

Quite a few pricks about as per usual. Hughie is a nice kid and I wish him well.

Your right up his arse, always have been.

Whatever you say. I rate him. He has had all manner of grief laid at his door by internet gobshites and it can't be easy to deal with that psychologically when you're little more than a kid and haven't done anything to deserve it.

[Tomasino]

Quite a few pricks about as per usual. Hughie is a nice kid and I wish him well.

Your right up his arse, always have been.

Whatever you say. I rate him. He has had all manner of grief laid at his door by internet gobshites and it can't be easy to deal with that psychologically when you're little more than a kid and haven't done anything to deserve it.

His dad bought him a title shot, poor kid eh

[SAPFO]

I think Hughie should now go over to NZ for a rematch with Parker where they can cook up a gimmick like break the live gate for the most sheep at an event to really get this fight on the map. This should be behind closed doors and non-televised, with the result posted in a thread on the Aussie board. Hopefully this then sets up the rubber match somewhere on the moon later next year where they will maybe be more interest.

[rd350lc]

Hughie has loads of options. He's 23, just come out the wrong side of a controversial decision in a WBO title fight. Has (apparently) beaten his illness. Keep it real guys. Also don't forget, the name Fury carries weight in the HW division.

Weight literally looking at big Tyson

[KiwiRider]

Because Cornish is low-risk enough to not get an upset, a better name than him facing Pavel Wlodkrap 12-9 from a Polish building site and either him or Allen would have been the right opponent for Fury to get some rounds under his belt in a low risk fight after a year out and a illness. Then he could step up to someone Euro or fringe-world level.

Parker was a step too far after his lay off. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Hughie's bounceback fight is vs Cornish.

Fair enough you must be a fan of Hughie. I just see him as a shite boxer, who hasn't improved or fought anyone of note but was gifted a world title shot, in which he shat himself. If he fights Cornish next, what does that say about him as a 'world title challenger'?

I like Hughie, he's skilled but shouldn't have had a title shot yet and hasn't done anything to deserve one.

He's young but like I said, he needs another 2, preferably 3 or 4 fights to get to that level. Especially coming from a year out with illness. A British level opponent like Cornish or Allen, then a handful at fringe level.

Ideally I'd see him face Cornish/Allen/Lewison as a bounce back fight, a couple of decent names & top 30 fighters like Adamek and Mansour, someone just outside world level (Hammer, Duhaupas, Takem) before stepping up to world level again. Preferably I'd have liked him to go that route rather than getting an undeserved shot vs Parker.

Well said
I was hoping when I started this thread that someone would come up with a feasible and constructive plan. It just took 4 pages

[samwbr]

Spzilka would be a good fight but I doubt they would risk Hughie losing again.

[Taansend]

I haven't seen the fight yet. Sounds like he pulled a Johnny Nelson (against De Leon & Warring). Maybe he'll learn from the experience or maybe that was the best of Hughie.

He seems like a nice bloke so good luck to him but the Fury's, while tough fighting men & good at running certain organisations (wink wink) are crap when it comes to boxing management/promotion.

He ain't going to be No. 1 again for quite a while so I don't see where he goes from here unless he signs with a promoter who can keep him busy.

[Tony1244]

Hughie has loads of options. He's 23, just come out the wrong side of a controversial decision in a WBO title fight. Has (apparently) beaten his illness. Keep it real guys. Also don't forget, the name Fury carries weight in the HW division.

Controversial? Did you think Hughie should have won.

In my opinion hes not world level and has no power. Neither man was good enough last night to beat AJ, AJ would have knocked both out inside of 2 rounds. Last night wasnt very pretty neither committed, neither had power and neither is nothing special.

On the plus side Fury is only young he can come back if he has the desire.

Neither man would beat Herbie fuckin Hide never mind Joshua

I think they both would beat Hide. Joshua? No way.

[Like a Boss]

Nobody will pay to watch Hughie play tap and run and then run some more again.

[KiwiRider]

Poor Huggie,
It seem Dark Forces were at play!
Is Darth Vader Huggies father?

[mustlogin]

Now we know what "please-crowder" means. It's the opposite of "crowd-pleaser"

No champion will want to fight him because he's a difficult opponent AND boring. The only way to get a new shot to a title is to work his way up in the ranks and get mandatory spot. He has talent for sure, exceptional footwork for someone of his size.

[Deserter]

An untested 23-year-old running the champ (albeit a very weak one) close is no disgrace and potentially a great learning experience. What intrigues me far more based on the comments I've heard (I didn't see the fight) is why Hughie didn't/couldn't pull the trigger more - it sounded like he had the better hand speed, so why he was reluctant to let the right hand go or throw combinations genuinely leaves me baffled, particularly given what was at stake. Thoughts?

[coneye]

An untested 23-year-old running the champ (albeit a very weak one) close is no disgrace and potentially a great learning experience. What intrigues me far more based on the comments I've heard (I didn't see the fight) is why Hughie didn't/couldn't pull the trigger more - it sounded like he had the better hand speed, so why he was reluctant to let the right hand go or throw combinations genuinely leaves me baffled, particularly given what was at stake. Thoughts?

I touched on that a little in another post ,, Its my opinion and only mine , that Hughie, has been training so long, and so much on running away , making them miss , he's become very good at it , but he's not had / got the confidence to let them go , defence , don't get hit , has been drummed into him so much , that now he's not confident setting his feet and letting go , he moves back to get away , not to get away and catch them coming in , theres a difference . He's being taught the art of evading at all cost , to suit his height , build ect. But he's not being taught how to put pressure on and use both hands , he, should let them go without thinking, if he had muscle memory for want of a better term he would , letting them go solid just does'nt come natural to him ,,

Like i said only my opinion , on a boxing site , so its not worth much

PS.. i also think if they don't start getting him to settle on his punches and hit harder, he may has well quit because he won't go any further , Parker could'nt get the big one on him But the likes of Whyte will , theres a reason they would'nt fight Whyte , and its not beacuse there mates .

[Twinkle Toes]

He's in the who needs him club, reminds me of Akinwande.

[Deserter]

An untested 23-year-old running the champ (albeit a very weak one) close is no disgrace and potentially a great learning experience. What intrigues me far more based on the comments I've heard (I didn't see the fight) is why Hughie didn't/couldn't pull the trigger more - it sounded like he had the better hand speed, so why he was reluctant to let the right hand go or throw combinations genuinely leaves me baffled, particularly given what was at stake. Thoughts?

I touched on that a little in another post ,, Its my opinion and only mine , that Hughie, has been training so long, and so much on running away , making them miss , he's become very good at it , but he's not had / got the confidence to let them go , defence , don't get hit , has been drummed into him so much , that now he's not confident setting his feet and letting go , he moves back to get away , not to get away and catch them coming in , theres a difference . He's being taught the art of evading at all cost , to suit his height , build ect. But he's not being taught how to put pressure on and use both hands , he, should let them go without thinking, if he had muscle memory for want of a better term he would , letting them go solid just does'nt come natural to him ,,

Like i said only my opinion , on a boxing site , so its not worth much

PS.. i also think if they don't start getting him to settle on his punches and hit harder, he may has well quit because he won't go any further , Parker could'nt get the big one on him But the likes of Whyte will , theres a reason they would'nt fight Whyte , and its not beacuse there mates .

Good post mate, makes a lot of sense on all fronts.

[KiwiRider]

An untested 23-year-old running the champ (albeit a very weak one) close is no disgrace and potentially a great learning experience. What intrigues me far more based on the comments I've heard (I didn't see the fight) is why Hughie didn't/couldn't pull the trigger more - it sounded like he had the better hand speed, so why he was reluctant to let the right hand go or throw combinations genuinely leaves me baffled, particularly given what was at stake. Thoughts?

I touched on that a little in another post ,, Its my opinion and only mine , that Hughie, has been training so long, and so much on running away , making them miss , he's become very good at it , but he's not had / got the confidence to let them go , defence , don't get hit , has been drummed into him so much , that now he's not confident setting his feet and letting go , he moves back to get away , not to get away and catch them coming in , theres a difference . He's being taught the art of evading at all cost , to suit his height , build ect. But he's not being taught how to put pressure on and use both hands , he, should let them go without thinking, if he had muscle memory for want of a better term he would , letting them go solid just does'nt come natural to him ,,

Like i said only my opinion , on a boxing site , so its not worth much

PS.. i also think if they don't start getting him to settle on his punches and hit harder, he may has well quit because he won't go any further , Parker could'nt get the big one on him But the likes of Whyte will , theres a reason they would'nt fight Whyte , and its not beacuse there mates .

Good post mate, makes a lot of sense on all fronts.

Totally
There are lessons spotlighted for both combatants in that fight. I hope they both go back to the drawing board. Parker needs to control the ring and not telegraph his shots, and Hughie needs to sit down on his and throw more. Let's hope both of them learned something. No one wants a repeat of that performance from either one of them

[bripez]

I touched on that a little in another post ,, Its my opinion and only mine , that Hughie, has been training so long, and so much on running away , making them miss , he's become very good at it , but he's not had / got the confidence to let them go , defence , don't get hit , has been drummed into him so much , that now he's not confident setting his feet and letting go , he moves back to get away , not to get away and catch them coming in , theres a difference . He's being taught the art of evading at all cost , to suit his height , build ect. But he's not being taught how to put pressure on and use both hands , he, should let them go without thinking, if he had muscle memory for want of a better term he would , letting them go solid just does'nt come natural to him ,,

Like i said only my opinion , on a boxing site , so its not worth much

PS.. i also think if they don't start getting him to settle on his punches and hit harder, he may has well quit because he won't go any further , Parker could'nt get the big one on him But the likes of Whyte will , theres a reason they would'nt fight Whyte , and its not beacuse there mates .

Good post mate, makes a lot of sense on all fronts.

Totally
There are lessons spotlighted for both combatants in that fight. I hope they both go back to the drawing board. Parker needs to control the ring and not telegraph his shots, and Hughie needs to sit down on his and throw more. Let's hope both of them learned something. No one wants a repeat of that performance from either one of them

Yes, makes sense - it looks as though he has spent years in the gym learning how to avoid Tysons jab in sparring, but hasn't learnt or doesn't feel comfortable letting shots go in case he leaves himself open.

Also the fact that he hasn't faced many live opponents - never mind those with varying styles etc. will not help him either.

[Dixonian]

Hughie has loads of options. He's 23, just come out the wrong side of a controversial decision in a WBO title fight. Has (apparently) beaten his illness. Keep it real guys. Also don't forget, the name Fury carries weight in the HW division.

Controversial? Did you think Hughie should have won.

In my opinion hes not world level and has no power. Neither man was good enough last night to beat AJ, AJ would have knocked both out inside of 2 rounds. Last night wasnt very pretty neither committed, neither had power and neither is nothing special.

On the plus side Fury is only young he can come back if he has the desire.

I don't know Mimmy, I haven't seen it. The pundits seem to think it could have gone either way though.

Yeah Barry Jones had it for Hughie. No way Joshua would get to Hughie in two rounds. Far too slow on his feet. He'd likely win a stinker of a fight on points.