Jarrell Miller Mariusz Wach

[KiwiRider]

Big boys at it in November.
Wach has lost to decent opponents, Miller yet to face one. Who wins?

[KiwiRider]

Jarrell Miller will face a big challenge, at least literally, in his HBO debut.
According to a ringtv.com report Monday night, the trash-talking, undefeated heavyweight contender will oppose Poland’s Mariusz Wach on November 11 at Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Uniondale, New York. The 10-round bout between Miller (19-0-1, 17 KOs) and the 6-feet-7 Wach will open HBO’s broadcast before a main event that will pit former WBA middleweight champion Daniel Jacobs (32-2, 29 KOs) against Luis Arias (18-0, 9 KOs) in the main event.

[candyslim]

I've gone for Miller by decision as he's the fresher and more ambitious, but I like Wach. He's a big strong guy who's lost only to Wlad and to Povetkin. It's a pretty good match-up.

[KiwiRider]

I've gone for Miller by decision as he's the fresher and more ambitious, but I like Wach. He's a big strong guy who's lost only to Wlad and to Povetkin. It's a pretty good match-up.

I think it's a great match up. Bringing Miller along bit by bit.
They better have some extra thick canvas down. There will be a lot of weight on it!!
Let's see if Miller has the power to KO.
I voted The Buffet. It takes a bit to power these behemoths

[Ilya Muromets]

Good one. Wach wins by KO.


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I changed my mind. Big Baby.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Longer it goes.. Miller might tire out. Not seen Wach in a while.. really hope he gives it a good go. Was looking forward to Whyte vs. Wach before it was cancelled..

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Hard to Imagine a fight less interesting than this one.

[candyslim]

Not for me. Uninteresting is when I'm pretty certain who is going to win. This is no more than a 60/40 whichever one you might favour.

[dagilechia]

I'll root for Wach, but he seems too lazy, too slow and lacks agression in his boxing now

[candyslim]

Someone on here said to watch his fight against Nascimento ( I couldn't find it on you-tube probably because I was looking for Wach v Zarate, I'd forgotten which 3rd rate South American he'd fought) where he looked very unimpressive. Given that most quality heavyweights tend to stop Nascimento, the fact he took Wach to a 10 round U - decision suggests Mariusz might not be the fighter was.

[dagilechia]

Someone on here said to watch his fight against Nascimento ( I couldn't find it on you-tube probably because I was looking for Wach v Zarate, I'd forgotten which 3rd rate South American he'd fought) where he looked very unimpressive. Given that most quality heavyweights tend to stop Nascimento, the fact he took Wach to a 10 round U - decision suggests Mariusz might not be the fighter was.

yeah I had this fight a draw, but maybe he had a worse day or something, vs Teper he looked better but both Wach and Teper were unimpressive in this fight, lazy and slow

[candyslim]

Doesn't look good does it? If you can't at least look convincing in beating Nascimento how you gonna cope with a nudging world-class Big Baby Miller?

I know it doesn't always work like that which is why I'm giving MW the benefit of the doubt.

[dagilechia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzJ-KyFNMG4
that's Wach vs Nascimento if someone intersted but this fight wasn't great to watch

After his fight vs Klitschko he lost agression, he throws significantly less punches, thats the problem, and maybe he drinks too as once he was totally drunk during an interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svW7BaYT0zE
It's in Polish but not hard to notice he is drunk, even people in studio are laughing of him

His next problem that he has a very bad trainer which is also his friend, ex-boxer Piotr Wilczewski, he is good to teach young boys basics of boxing but not to be a trainer of an professional fighter on that level, he trained Masternak too and both became very rigid in the ring, zero flexibility

[Loki]

This is a 50/50 and we will see how much power Miller carries. Wach has a huge and great chin, but is far too slow.

Miller by UD or Wach by KO.

[lefty]

Miller easy. I think Wach is washed up now. Shit fight to be honest. I'd prefer to see Miller vs Whyte or Breazeale. The latter would be very interesting as they're both huge and not very skilled.

[gilgamesh]

Miller should take this comfortably. Wach is a hard guy to stop, and is very big, but doesn't have much else going for him.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Not for me. Uninteresting is when I'm pretty certain who is going to win. This is no more than a 60/40 whichever one you might favour.

Too each their own. Uninteresting for me is when I couldn't care less who wins. Like here.

[asdfjkl]

I expect it to be a remarkebly close fight, with Miller as a 116 vs 112 decision winner or so.

[BitPlayer]

The real thing to bet on is will Miller come in over 300Ibs

[asdfjkl]

He can't afford that against Wach.

[Lackeos]

I certainly hope this match-up comes off. This is the sort of test that can really appropriately measure Miller.

I voted Wach by decision. I have a bit more confidence that Wach is as good as I think he is; I'm a little less sure of Miller. But I suspect it might be a decision because it is hard to KO Wach, and I don't know that Wach could KO Miller either.

[candyslim]

Not for me. Uninteresting is when I'm pretty certain who is going to win. This is no more than a 60/40 whichever one you might favour.

Too each their own. Uninteresting for me is when I couldn't care less who wins. Like here.

Fair enough. Although for me I like to watch a fight that's competitive and either exciting, intriguing or both. It's not usual for me that I have a preference as to who wins, at least not to the extent that I'm bothered if it's the other guy. Last fight I watched was Servania v Tomiyama. It was an excellent fight, I thoroughly enjoyed it but I couldn't care less who won.

[Loki]

The real thing to bet on is will Miller come in over 300Ibs

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Not for me. Uninteresting is when I'm pretty certain who is going to win. This is no more than a 60/40 whichever one you might favour.

Too each their own. Uninteresting for me is when I couldn't care less who wins. Like here.

Fair enough. Although for me I like to watch a fight that's competitive and either exciting, intriguing or both. It's not usual for me that I have a preference as to who wins, at least not to the extent that I'm bothered if it's the other guy. Last fight I watched was Servania v Tomiyama. It was an excellent fight, I thoroughly enjoyed it but I couldn't care less who won.

I didn't mean cheering preference, I meant the result in general.

[candyslim]

If you mean it doesn't have great significance so it doesn't matter who wins, well to a point. If Miller wins it doesn't really advance his claim to be world class but if he loses it would set him back a long way.

We know more about Wach's abilities and limitations but beating Miller would probably propel him into a title fight with someone even if he'd most likely have to wait, so the fight isn't entirely without significance.

If you didn't mean this yet you didn't mean personal preference like you say, then I'm struggling to understand what you did mean.