So what? Povetkin probably will never get another World Title shot again anyway. He's pissed his career away, and doesn't even really deserve attention from Boxing fans anymore.
gilgamesh wrote:So what? Povetkin probably will never get another World Title shot again anyway. He's pissed his career away, and doesn't even really deserve attention from Boxing fans anymore.
He's still a top 5 heavyweight, so he does still deserve attention.
gilgamesh wrote:So what? Povetkin probably will never get another World Title shot again anyway. He's pissed his career away, and doesn't even really deserve attention from Boxing fans anymore.
He's still a top 5 heavyweight, so he does still deserve attention.
I still have him ranked as well, but no Champion is gonna fight this guy now unless he becomes mandatory, and if he becomes mandatory he's likely to piss hot and blow the fight anyway so why care about him?
He'd either piss hot and blow the fight or not take the PED's and look like sh*t in the fight. Either way...he's not really worth caring about anymore.
Right now he's just in limbo in my mind. Not completely irrelevant just yet, but never again going to be relevant either.
Well I guess that settles that. Much easier and more convenient than having them actually meet. Just get some Las Vegas Mafia sheister doctor to say she found one one billionth of a gram of vitamin C or something in his blood and get people posting what would have happened if she didn't!
This whole politicized drug testing racket is just that, and I don't know why other countries like Russia are putting up with it except they want some of that Las Vegas mob money.
x2x wrote:"Joshua would KTFO Povetkin inside 8 rounds"
Well I guess that settles that. Much easier and more convenient than having them actually meet. Just get some Las Vegas Mafia sheister doctor to say she found one one billionth of a gram of vitamin C or something in his blood and get people posting what would have happened if she didn't!
This whole politicized drug testing racket is just that, and I don't know why other countries like Russia are putting up with it except they want some of that Las Vegas mob money.
It's funny you defend Russian fighters, and pretend that any time somebody fails a drug test it's a conspiracy...yet...when a foreign fighters beats a Russian fighter in Russia their drug test always seems to come back hot...and there's nothing conspiratorial about that?
x2x wrote:"Joshua would KTFO Povetkin inside 8 rounds"
Well I guess that settles that. Much easier and more convenient than having them actually meet. Just get some Las Vegas Mafia sheister doctor to say she found one one billionth of a gram of vitamin C or something in his blood and get people posting what would have happened if she didn't!
This whole politicized drug testing racket is just that, and I don't know why other countries like Russia are putting up with it except they want some of that Las Vegas mob money.
It's funny you defend Russian fighters, and pretend that any time somebody fails a drug test it's a conspiracy...yet...when a foreign fighters beats a Russian fighter in Russia their drug test always seems to come back hot...and there's nothing conspiratorial about that?
He defends that fraud only because he is Russian. Imagine if Joshua has failed some test lmao .....
x2x wrote:"Joshua would KTFO Povetkin inside 8 rounds"
Well I guess that settles that. Much easier and more convenient than having them actually meet. Just get some Las Vegas Mafia sheister doctor to say she found one one billionth of a gram of vitamin C or something in his blood and get people posting what would have happened if she didn't!
This whole politicized drug testing racket is just that, and I don't know why other countries like Russia are putting up with it except they want some of that Las Vegas mob money.
It's funny you defend Russian fighters, and pretend that any time somebody fails a drug test it's a conspiracy...yet...when a foreign fighters beats a Russian fighter in Russia their drug test always seems to come back hot...and there's nothing conspiratorial about that?
x2x wrote:"Joshua would KTFO Povetkin inside 8 rounds"
Well I guess that settles that. Much easier and more convenient than having them actually meet. Just get some Las Vegas Mafia sheister doctor to say she found one one billionth of a gram of vitamin C or something in his blood and get people posting what would have happened if she didn't!
This whole politicized drug testing racket is just that, and I don't know why other countries like Russia are putting up with it except they want some of that Las Vegas mob money.
It's funny you defend Russian fighters, and pretend that any time somebody fails a drug test it's a conspiracy...yet...when a foreign fighters beats a Russian fighter in Russia their drug test always seems to come back hot...and there's nothing conspiratorial about that?
Like when?
Lucas Browne after Ruslan Chagaev
Guillermo Jones after Lebedev
Durodola after Kudryashov
x2x wrote:"Joshua would KTFO Povetkin inside 8 rounds"
Well I guess that settles that. Much easier and more convenient than having them actually meet. Just get some Las Vegas Mafia sheister doctor to say she found one one billionth of a gram of vitamin C or something in his blood and get people posting what would have happened if she didn't!
This whole politicized drug testing racket is just that, and I don't know why other countries like Russia are putting up with it except they want some of that Las Vegas mob money.
It's funny you defend Russian fighters, and pretend that any time somebody fails a drug test it's a conspiracy...yet...when a foreign fighters beats a Russian fighter in Russia their drug test always seems to come back hot...and there's nothing conspiratorial about that?
Like when?
I remember how you boyz tried cheat against Lucas Browne (who is PED user himself). It was hilarious what they did with those "times" during serious sitations lmao
What happened with Jones and Durodola? I don't recall the Russians trying to ban anybody for drugs.
I did see the Browne-Chagaev fight. It was held in the Chechnya, a Moslem province of Russia, not Russia proper, and it was indeed a joke - colorful though, with the "king" of Chechnya sitting on his purple couch at ringside and acting as Chagaev's cornerman!
Boxing is crooked almost everyplace, just not on the same "exalted" level as Las Vegas.
x2x wrote:What happened with Jones and Durodola? I don't recall the Russians trying to ban anybody for drugs.
I did see the Browne-Chagaev fight. It was held in the Chechnya, a Moslem province of Russia, not Russia proper, and it was indeed a joke - colorful though, with the "king" of Chechnya sitting on his purple couch at ringside and acting as Chagaev's cornerman!
Boxing is crooked almost everyplace, just not on the same "exalted" level as Las Vegas.
I remember Jones and Durodola popping hot. Maybe the B-Sample didn't turn out hot or whatever, but I remember it being a thing.
Jones' win over Lebedev is a No Contest now I believe.
gilgamesh wrote:I still have him ranked as well, but no Champion is gonna fight this guy now unless he becomes mandatory, and if he becomes mandatory he's likely to piss hot and blow the fight anyway so why care about him?
He'd either piss hot and blow the fight or not take the PED's and look like sh*t in the fight. Either way...he's not really worth caring about anymore.
Right now he's just in limbo in my mind. Not completely irrelevant just yet, but never again going to be relevant either.
Joshua needs opponents.
Is Joshua scared of a hot Ortiz?
Like I've said earlier, Joshua has to be willing to fight the cheats, otherwise he'll have far too few opponents to fight.
i think povetkin would be a harder test for aj then most , as he would press forward which aj is not use too ,also a tough lad, i think povetkin could win
gilgamesh wrote:So what? Povetkin probably will never get another World Title shot again anyway. He's pissed his career away, and doesn't even really deserve attention from Boxing fans anymore.
Povetkin will be around until he's 40 and he was treated extremely unfairly because he's a Russian... He never took PEDs... VADA and WADA both retroactively admitted Povetkin was clean for the Wilder fight... He passed ALL of their tests... VADA and the WBC then EXCUSED Stiverne for taking PEDs, by saying he did it "inadvertently" ... VADA then claimed Povetkin had 1/10th of a nanogram of Ostarine in one of dozens of samples... That also came within 24-hours of his fight with Stiverne for maximum disruption of the promotion.. That was an Ostarine presence no other drug testing organization was able to find and Povetkin insists VADA is lying their asses off.. Also, that minute amount of Ostarine couldn't enhance an ant.
Browne and Bute, who VADA also accused of taking Ostarine, claim they never did.. Can VADA be corrupt??? Or just the foreign boxers VADA targets???
Didn't VADA founder Victor Conte have over a dozen of his athlete clients nailed for taking PED's??? ... Wasn't he thrown in prison for PED trafficking??
Povetkin is currently the real wbc champion for me, there's a reason why he's ranked higher as Wilder, Ortiz and name them by independant sources. I think AJ is the only one who could knock him out. Povetkin is better as most of the current champions.
x2x wrote:What happened with Jones and Durodola? I don't recall the Russians trying to ban anybody for drugs.
I did see the Browne-Chagaev fight. It was held in the Chechnya, a Moslem province of Russia, not Russia proper, and it was indeed a joke - colorful though, with the "king" of Chechnya sitting on his purple couch at ringside and acting as Chagaev's cornerman!
Boxing is crooked almost everyplace, just not on the same "exalted" level as Las Vegas.
I remember Jones and Durodola popping hot. Maybe the B-Sample didn't turn out hot or whatever, but I remember it being a thing.
Jones' win over Lebedev is a No Contest now I believe.
The Russians didn't try to destroy anybody's livelihood and entire career like Doc Goodman's Las Vegas NeVADA Mafia drug testing crew keep on doing.
This is funny people talking about Joshua vs the cheats haha. You lot honestly think joshua isn't on the gear? The amount of lean mass he put on after Olympics isn't possible in the time frame without gear. Also he's got a distended gut a side effect from hgh.
Most professional athletes are on the gear the testing is very easy to get around an that's not even mentioning back handers to the testers etc. Peds aren't going to give a heavyweight a massive advantage anyway. Recovery in training yes an extra weight but punch power no an bigger muscles burn more oxygen
Remove testing from heavyweights an you won't see any difference in the fighters performance or shape because most of then will already be on the gear
