Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

JamieM
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Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

Post by JamieM »

Doing the rounds on twitter? What does this mean for the Vazquez fight? I hope he does and goes back and trains with his original trainer, ridiculous he had to move camps just to be managed there. Can see a possible MTK link there also.
jameswilson
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

Post by jameswilson »

He'll be highly sought after I think.
lefty
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

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Hearn will definietly want him to replace Burns for that Scottish market.
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

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Cant help but feel sorry on Shane if this is true, its unprecedented a trainer losing a stable within a month , you'd think he' been just done for noncing
keithmoonhangover
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

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handsofstone wrote:Cant help but feel sorry on Shane if this is true, its unprecedented a trainer losing a stable within a month , you'd think he' been just done for noncing
I agree mate. Has he suddenly become a bad trainer? :maybe:
Noxy
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

Post by Noxy »

For real? What the **** is going on with Cyclone
handsofstone
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
handsofstone wrote:Cant help but feel sorry on Shane if this is true, its unprecedented a trainer losing a stable within a month , you'd think he' been just done for noncing
I agree mate. Has he suddenly become a bad trainer? :maybe:
Having your trainers dad as your manager can never be a good thing if you become a successful boxer, if Frampton/McGuigan cant last then no one can

I'm a bit gutted actually, I love Frampton and that McGuigan documentary showed a tight knit enjoyable circle
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While Shane McGuigan has been fortunate in taking on some finished articles, their loss is down to the promotional company not him.
sammy95
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I don't like to talk in rumours, but if the rumours are true regarding the Cyclone pay structure then I'm not suprised to see their fighters leaving.
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

Post by Tarquin Tarpaulin IV »

My opinions about Barry changed dramatically after hearing some $$$ related stories from a reliable source a few years ago...
rio
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Post by rio »

Apparently they owe Frampton alot of money from his past 2 fights. That has to be one the main reasons he left. However i would guess that carl did not speak with calzaghe or woodhouse before signing with Warren!
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is the payment structure: everyone in barry's family + dog, then what's left for the boxers? i blame Eddie Hearn!!
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sammy95 wrote:I don't like to talk in rumours, but if the rumours are true regarding the Cyclone pay structure then I'm not suprised to see their fighters leaving.
Baz never promoted Carl's last two fights. Shouldn't the pay structure be fairly simple? He gets paid, gives all the %'s to Barry's family and takes the rest home.
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

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handsofstone wrote: Having your trainers dad as your manager can never be a good thing if you become a successful boxer, if Frampton/McGuigan cant last then no one can
It's the manager/promoter set up that's the tricky one.
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handsofstone wrote:Cant help but feel sorry on Shane if this is true, its unprecedented a trainer losing a stable within a month , you'd think he' been just done for noncing
It's not like he brought them through from amateurs. He's still got Groves.
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

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Think it's a lot of nonsense , josh is actively selling his tickets for 11th of November fight
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handsofstone wrote:Cant help but feel sorry on Shane if this is true, its unprecedented a trainer losing a stable within a month , you'd think he' been just done for noncing
He should have stuck to dogs, his stable would have been intact
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

Post by northern »

The Vasquez fight won't be effected I don't think.
The fight is in Taylors birthplace, he'll want the fight to go ahead regardless of what happens after the fight is over.

Whatever issues are going on at Cyclone promotions need to be sorted out quickly though, with losing a lot of big names so suddenly it's going to damage them beyond repair if things keep going like this.
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

Post by Oiky »

It's all going boss eyed for cyclone
emallini
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

Post by emallini »

Another nonsense Twitter rumour that every stupid idiot takes as gospel.
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

Post by mickey1975 »

If he's as good as we think, wait until Camp Eddie and Fwank start dangling the carrots.
iestyn500
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

Post by iestyn500 »

I hope he does not leave, but rather than lose Mcguigan as a promoter have him as a manager and have either warren or hearn as promoter.
The downside with this, is the Mcguigans are really good at matchmaking for Taylor. Warren and Hearn could stall his career
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

Post by rio »

iestyn500 wrote:I hope he does not leave, but rather than lose Mcguigan as a promoter have him as a manager and have either warren or hearn as promoter.
The downside with this, is the Mcguigans are really good at matchmaking for Taylor. Warren and Hearn could stall his career
I get the impression unless you're a big name like haye or groves if you want to have anything to do with cyclone you have to be promoted by Blain, managed by Barry and trained by Shane.
iestyn500
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Re: Josh Taylor Leaving Cyclone?

Post by iestyn500 »

yeh and that might be an issue.
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