Is the winner of the Cruiserweight WBSS entering P4P top 5

[Ruthless-RKO]

Technically, the winner would have beaten 3 top cruiserweights and coming out with 4 belts if you include the 'regular' WBA.. The winner will be regarded the lineal and will probably be The Ring champion too.

Last lineal champion was in 2009 .. The last Ring champion was 2 years ago.

Particularly if it's Briedis or Usyk.

Dorticos and Gassiev may also be the real deal but don't have the resume of the other two.

Usyk is probably already in many fans own P4P list, maybe between 7-10?

Although it's not like the Super Six, where they kinda fought each other, with this being a bracket style tournament, but the best of the division have entered bar Lebedev.. The winner, who would also have cleared the division, should get top 5 IMO. I think they would need to look spectacular doing so.. Usyk has the style to do this.

Discuss...

[RScarf1]

I don't know if the winner is top 10 P4P. I think we have to see how it all plays out.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I don't know if the winner is top 10 P4P. I think we have to see how it all plays out.

Usyk would have defeated Huck, Briedis and Dorticos/Gassiev/Wlod.. Not a bad list. I think he would need to do so in some fashion..

Was Ward P4P #2 after he won the Super Six? I do think Ward beat better opposition in Kessler, Abraham and Froch.

[apollo creed]

I'd say top 3 at least. The CW division is hot and stacked.

[ValMar]

I'd say top 3 at least. The CW division is hot and stacked.

Yes !

[Lackeos]

On ability, there is no guarantee that a division's #1 fighter will be in the top 10 p4p. There are 17 divisions, after all. Cruiserweight is also not as deep as many other divisions. But, on paper, the winner will be getting all of the division's points funneled right into him. So a top 10 p4p berth on paper is inevitable.

[Enlightened-One]

There aren’t any cruiserweights currently ranked amongst either ESPN’s or The RING’s top-ten pound-for-pound ratings.

In fact, ESPN also details the other fighters nominated by their experts and none of the cruiserweights are even considered.

So whilst it’s feasible for the winner of the WBSS to gain a position within the pound-for-pound ratings, I truly doubt they’ll be considered worthy of receiving a top-five ranking.

I don’t think that winning the WBSS alone is a sufficient enough accomplishment to warrant a position within the top-five pound-for-pound ratings.

[RScarf1]

There are also times when two boxers from the same division are P4P top 10. I could see the cruiserweight winner being top 15. If top 10, it would be towards the bottom.

[samdance]

I think it's impossible to determine now where the winner will sit, p4p is so subjective and not solely based on resume, it's often how dominating the W was.

[jamamb]

they will be a strong contender for p4p top 10.

[ValMar]

Usyk is already very high on the my p4p list.

[Ossyrules]

I was toying between no and top ten. Voted top ten but it's borderline.

Too many better guys to even get close to top 5 imo

[Ossyrules]

I'd say top 3 at least. The CW division is hot and stacked.

Yes !

No

[Ossyrules]

I'd say top 3 at least. The CW division is hot and stacked.

Do me a favour

[jamamb]

let's say usyk wins to have: Dorticos (ibf+wba champ after beating gassiev, who beat lebedev), Glowacki, Briedies, Huck, Mchunu, Hunter

i mean, is that really any worse than what top 5 ggg has or had when he started getting ranked p4p? is it leagues worse than rigo's resume? or loma's? vastly worse than recent #1 gonzalez? i think especially with usyk there should be a very strong case for top ten spot, not just boarderline. his resume would already be stronger than countryman vitali klitschko.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I don't know if the winner is top 10 P4P. I think we have to see how it all plays out.

if breidis managed to win 2 more fights like yesterday I wouldn't have him top 10.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

let's say usyk wins to have: Dorticos (ibf+wba champ after beating gassiev, who beat lebedev), Glowacki, Briedies, Huck, Mchunu, Hunter

i mean, is that really any worse than what top 5 ggg has or had when he started getting ranked p4p? is it leagues worse than rigo's resume? or loma's? vastly worse than recent #1 gonzalez? i think especially with usyk there should be a very strong case for top ten spot, not just boarderline. his resume would already be stronger than countryman vitali klitschko.

There are hundreds of fighters with better resumes than vitali. Maybe a thousand. I agree on usyk though, if he wins two more impressive fights he'd definitely be top 10.

[lefty]

Who cares. P4P is a load of subjective crap anyway.

[FastestHandsInThewest]

I would say winner should be in top 3.

[Mexi-Box]

Right now, the p4p list isn't as definitive. Crawford and Lomachenko just don't have impressive resumes of people beaten. Rather, they're on the p4p list because of how they look in wining. Canelo or Estrada currently have the best resume in the p4p list at the moment. For what it's worth, here is what my p4p list probably looks like right now:

1. Golovkin
2. Canelo
3. Crawford
4. Lomachenko
5. Rungvisai
6. Santa Cruz
7. Estrada
8. Mikey Garcia
9. Inoue
10. Usyk

I think Usyk winning will probably put him above Crawford depending on how he continues winning. At the end of the tournament, Usyk will have: Huck, Briedis, Gassiev/Durodola, Hunter, Mchunu, and Glowacki, that is literally the entire division. He'd have essentially cleaned out cruiserweight with some formidable fighters. Cruiserweight is a more competitive division than 140, so it'd be a lot more impressive. You could say that he missed Lebedev, but he beat Gassiev who beat Lebedev. Easily, that deserves a top 3 ranking. Only issue is that December still has some great fights where two fighters can leapfrog into top 3 positions too.

Rigondeaux/Lomachenko winner will probably leapfrog Crawford. Hell, if Rigondeaux wins, I'd have him as the p4p #1 fighter. That'd be one of the best wins in a long time.

Estrada and Rungvisai might fight in December. I'd have the winner at top 3 p4p as well.

[boxing_rocks]

Didn't want to create a separate thread for that, but Loma has a very high standard for himself becoming p4p #1. He wants to fight that following guys in the next 18 months (he named them in this order):
- Mikey
- Linares
- Berchelt

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/915223531285368833

[SaadOffTheDeck]

That might not get it done.

[gilgamesh]

Possibly. It's a pretty deep field of competition.

HOW they're able to win is gonna play a big role in answering this question.

I agree with Saad's comment that if he won all of his Tournament fights the way he won the Perez fight it certainly wouldn't impress anybody.

Usyk is the favorite obviously, but I think Dorticos and Gassiev are definite threats as well.

[caldo2025]

Technically, the winner would have beaten 3 top cruiserweights and coming out with 4 belts if you include the 'regular' WBA.. The winner will be regarded the lineal and will probably be The Ring champion too.

Last lineal champion was in 2009 .. The last Ring champion was 2 years ago.

Particularly if it's Briedis or Usyk.

Dorticos and Gassiev may also be the real deal but don't have the resume of the other two.

Usyk is probably already in many fans own P4P list, maybe between 7-10?

Although it's not like the Super Six, where they kinda fought each other, with this being a bracket style tournament, but the best of the division have entered bar Lebedev.. The winner, who would also have cleared the division, should get top 5 IMO. I think they would need to look spectacular doing so.. Usyk has the style to do this.

Discuss...

The Cruiserweight division will ALWAYS be the loser division and there's no way any of the current CW's will crack the top 10 P4P list. It's because most people consider the division as the JV Team to the Heavyweight division. If guys like Holyfield, Dwight & Muhammad Qawi couldn't make the Cruiserweight Division attractive enough for fans then there's no way that these casts of characters will either. Cruiserweight division is just the breeding ground for the Heavyweight Division.

[Tarkus]

A winner will have a strong case for top 5 spot. There is no great deal of fighters with strong resumes around. P4P list is wide open. Mine is anyway.