The better question is how much did Conte get paid for this pathetic performance. Don't tell me that this is just coming from the kindness of his heart...how does Conte know that Ortiz is this "very intelligent, genius" of a guy". Something smells.
Ortiz could very well be telling the truth and this could be an honest omission from his declaration of medication but in my book when a boxer gets nabbed for PEDS on multiple occasions in their past then they lose their mulligan for anything in the future. If it were his first offense, i'd let it go. 3rd? No...there are no mistakes at that point...it's deliberate.
TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST
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asdfjkl
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This is the sad thing, casuals and newboys actually believe the media, while everybody who knows just a tiny bit from the boxing world knows Wilder got Vada in his pocket and can make anyone he wants to avoid test positive.FastestHandsInThewest wrote:He's a cheater.
Everybody involved knows Povetkin is innocent, just like Ortiz.
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montrealsuper
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Correction. It's Haymon who bought Vada and USada. Wilder is just his fraud puppet pretender along for the ride.asdfjkl wrote:This is the sad thing, casuals and newboys actually believe the media, while everybody who knows just a tiny bit from the boxing world knows Wilder got Vada in his pocket and can make anyone he wants to avoid test positive.FastestHandsInThewest wrote:He's a cheater.
Everybody involved knows Povetkin is innocent, just like Ortiz.
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I don't care about frigging chemistry. I care about boxing. Guilty or not guilty I just want to see the firkin fight !!!
I know that's probably not a very responsible attitude but I'm so firkin bored of all this shite !
I know that's probably not a very responsible attitude but I'm so firkin bored of all this shite !
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Why doesn't Conte explain to us what "Losartan/HCTZ" stands for?
It's not just "Losartan" as he says in his video.
An honest mistake?
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boxing_rocks
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https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-2626 ... al/details
HCTZ is just abbreviation for Losartan actual substance, Hydrochlorothiazide.
HCTZ is just abbreviation for Losartan actual substance, Hydrochlorothiazide.
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boxing_rocks wrote:https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-2626 ... al/details
HCTZ is just abbreviation for Losartan actual substance, Hydrochlorothiazide.
Well, would that be the Hydrochlorothiazide listed on https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited- ... ing-agents?
But Conte just said he didn't take it.
It must be a mistake, lol lol.
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crow wrote:
But Conte just said he didn't take it.
It must be a mistake, lol lol.
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FastestHandsInThewest
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Re: TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST
Why would he avoid Ortiz he would most likely beat him. You have no credibility.asdfjkl wrote:This is the sad thing, casuals and newboys actually believe the media, while everybody who knows just a tiny bit from the boxing world knows Wilder got Vada in his pocket and can make anyone he wants to avoid test positive.FastestHandsInThewest wrote:He's a cheater.
Everybody involved knows Povetkin is innocent, just like Ortiz.
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asdfjkl
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Re: TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST
Do you actually believe this or are you just trolling?FastestHandsInThewest wrote:Why would he avoid Ortiz he would most likely beat him. You have no credibility.asdfjkl wrote:This is the sad thing, casuals and newboys actually believe the media, while everybody who knows just a tiny bit from the boxing world knows Wilder got Vada in his pocket and can make anyone he wants to avoid test positive.FastestHandsInThewest wrote:He's a cheater.
Everybody involved knows Povetkin is innocent, just like Ortiz.
It's not like I predict such a story randomly months and months beforehand, with correct names and almost perfect dates and details like this.