apollo creed wrote:Imagine if Stiverne fails Wilder's anti-doping test.
This circus was planned...
No matter what he does most here find him to be the antichristSaadOffTheDeck wrote:Since Wilder is the only fighter in history to get blamed for his opponents ped use, he may as well be the only fighter in history to catch poo for keeping his belt by satisfying his mandatory.
It's bizarre, though I have to admit the nutjobs around here got me paying more attention to him. When most were saying stiverne was going to expose him was the first time I cheered him on.tiny_acres wrote:No matter what he does most here find him to be the antichristSaadOffTheDeck wrote:Since Wilder is the only fighter in history to get blamed for his opponents ped use, he may as well be the only fighter in history to catch poo for keeping his belt by satisfying his mandatory.
I totally agree, I just get annoyed with all the OTT Wilder hate and conspiracy theories.candyslim wrote:With those on here either defending or reproaching Deontay Wilder, am I the only one who is just bitterly disappointed that we won't get the chance to see Wilder fight Ortiz?
I don't give a sh1t about apportioning blame, I'm just gutted. Instead of a great pick 'em fight we're back to this predictable eyesore. I don't want to see Stiverne fight Wilder. Breazeale yes. Wilder no.
Oh well, take the positives. At least this shit-fest will soon be over after pretty much a whole year of speculation (always assuming Stiverne can pass the PED test), and secondly we've still got Anthony Joshua who can be counted on to defend his title against quality opposition without us having to endure this bullshit circus every bloody time
Wasn't this something many of us predicted six days ago when news of Luis Ortiz's failed PED test results were announced?apollo creed wrote:The World Boxing Council, through President Mauricio Sulaiman, has issued a ruling - according to its Clean Boxing Program protocol - to withdraw their sanction of Deontay Wilder's scheduled defense on November 4th at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, against Luis Ortiz.
The ruling was made after it was revealed last week that Ortiz failed a pre-fight drug test.
Further, it was ordered that Wilder (38-0, 37 KOs) will fight his mandatory challenger, Bermane Stiverne. - scene
TBH I thought it would be another top ATG like Charles Martin or Eric Esch.
I wholeheartedly agree with you on this!apollo creed wrote:It's so sad seeing a world champion having this resume: Eric Molina, Johann Duhaupas, Artur Szpilka, Chris Arreola, Gerald Washington, Bermane Stiverne II.
Enlightened-One wrote:I wholeheartedly agree with you on this!apollo creed wrote:It's so sad seeing a world champion having this resume: Eric Molina, Johann Duhaupas, Artur Szpilka, Chris Arreola, Gerald Washington, Bermane Stiverne II.
It could've been worse, like Charles Martin.Stuarty30 wrote:WBC must be smoking the same stuff as they cranks at the WBA! They're turning in to a laughing stock! Stiverne!!! I do not understand that at all!
Just a horrible fight man! Stiverne lost his title to Wilder, has done feck all since and was lucky in one of his fight since Wilder easily beat him! How the hell does he get another shot after doing fukk all for two years since his tame effort against Wilder! I love boxing and have since I was a child but it drags me down at times and this is one of those times!apollo creed wrote:It could've been worse, like Charles Martin.Stuarty30 wrote:WBC must be smoking the same stuff as they cranks at the WBA! They're turning in to a laughing stock! Stiverne!!! I do not understand that at all!
The fact that Wawrzyk failed the test is one thing that lends this credibility. Nobody would bother to discredit Wawrzyk unfairly ... unless of course it was to throw conspiracy theorists off the scent - A cynic might have thought he wasn't dangerous enough to fail a PED Test so it must be on the level.apollo creed wrote:The bottom line is Donkey likes to fight cans and he's not willing to step up in competition. He's drooling at AJ and he's just keep staying safe till that fight happens. ATG balls.
He could've fought both Povetkin and Ortiz without that title on the table. Also Andrzej Wawrzyk was ducked via anti-doping test by Wilder.
It is a bit crap however you dress it up.apollo creed wrote:It's so sad seeing a world champion having this resume: Eric Molina, Johann Duhaupas, Artur Szpilka, Chris Arreola, Gerald Washington, Bermane Stiverne II.
I would have preferred it if it had been tbh. I've always suspected Martin is better than he looked against Joshua and this would test my theory. Another fight against Stiverne has nothing whatever to commend it.apollo creed wrote: It could've been worse, like Charles Martin.
trueStuarty30 wrote:Just a horrible fight man! Stiverne lost his title to Wilder, has done feck all since and was lucky in one of his fight since Wilder easily beat him! How the hell does he get another shot after doing fukk all for two years since his tame effort against Wilder! I love boxing and have since I was a child but it drags me down at times and this is one of those times!apollo creed wrote:It could've been worse, like Charles Martin.Stuarty30 wrote:WBC must be smoking the same stuff as they cranks at the WBA! They're turning in to a laughing stock! Stiverne!!! I do not understand that at all!
Imagine if the threads about Wilder would be like 'I'd prefer to see Donkey fighting bum X because he went 4-5 rounds with champion Y' LOLcandyslim wrote:The fact that Wawrzyk failed the test is one thing that lends this credibility. Nobody would bother to discredit Wawrzyk unfairly ... unless of course it was to throw conspiracy theorists off the scent - A cynic might have thought he wasn't dangerous enough to fail a PED Test so it must be on the level.apollo creed wrote:The bottom line is Donkey likes to fight cans and he's not willing to step up in competition. He's drooling at AJ and he's just keep staying safe till that fight happens. ATG balls.
He could've fought both Povetkin and Ortiz without that title on the table. Also Andrzej Wawrzyk was ducked via anti-doping test by Wilder.
It is a bit crap however you dress it up.apollo creed wrote:It's so sad seeing a world champion having this resume: Eric Molina, Johann Duhaupas, Artur Szpilka, Chris Arreola, Gerald Washington, Bermane Stiverne II.
I would have preferred it if it had been tbh. I've always suspected Martin is better than he looked against Joshua and this would test my theory. Another fight against Stiverne has nothing whatever to commend it.apollo creed wrote: It could've been worse, like Charles Martin.
what an awful fight.