BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
OK. If they fight I'm going with Spence KO.
Don't think someone could think I'm being ridiculous after watching Spence/Brook.
You are talking about a smaller man in Crawford.
And if Spence isn't equal or better than Crawford, they're definitely close enough that Spence will land often and win rounds.
I think in the course of those punches landing, Spence will take Crawford out.
What's so crazy about that?
You are claiming that Crawford is chinny because he caught a big punch as a 135 pounder years ago and was hardly phased by the punch. Canelo was almost knocked out by Jose Miguel Cotto and was lucky to make it out of round 1 so shouldn't we have assumed that GGG would knock him out cold because of it?
Crawford has not only proved that he's got a world class chin but he's been the most dominant fighter in the last few years as proven by the fact that he's rarely lost a minute of a round much less a round. No, don't say Lomachenko has been better because he actually lost. Lomachenko fans need to start remembering that fight because it did actually happen.
Spence may have what it takes to beat Crawford but no one on this planet could outclass him or "walk him down" so you're opinion is rather ignorant and doesn't give Crawford the respect he earned in there.
Crawford's level of competition outside of Postol is a joke.
I am not giving A+ credit for only fighting solid/bum fighters.
Also, Canelo would have gotten KO'ed, but GGG was in the lights for the 1st 3 rounds and didn't throw a body punch.
By the time he started, Canelo was running.
Also, poor comparison because I think Spence is more skilled than GGG, by a good margin.
His walking down of Crawford wouldn't include the same telegraphed right hand repeatedly.
You are obviously in the minority because most intelligent boxing fans realize how special Crawford is. That's why he's now in the top 5 of most credible P4P lists.
You talk about Crawford's level of competition...it's a lot better than Spence's. LOL. You serious. Spence was losing the fight with Brook until Brook's eye socket went and that's the only fight Spence has won worth a damn. Terrance Crawford doesn't lose rounds. If Spence and Crawford fight at 147, I bet Crawford will be a heavy favorite for good reason.
I don't think Crawford will be a heavy favorite over Spence. He seems to have more weapons, but we haven't seen that much of Spence yet. I would like to see Crawford vs at least Danny Garcia to see how much he has improved since his split with DG in the amaterus. Personally I would favor TC heavily if they do fight (over DG). Broner and others have said Crawford would be wise to wait to fight Spence. I hope it isn't too long, but think probably 2 years.
One interview sticks in my mind when they asked Crawford about fighting Spence. He hesitated and said Spence he was pretty sure was moving up. He didn't seem too confident.
As far as the Brook fight, Brook did well for a while, but Spence was breaking him down. The experience he gained in that fight will serve him well.
caldo2025 wrote:
You are claiming that Crawford is chinny because he caught a big punch as a 135 pounder years ago and was hardly phased by the punch. Canelo was almost knocked out by Jose Miguel Cotto and was lucky to make it out of round 1 so shouldn't we have assumed that GGG would knock him out cold because of it?
Crawford has not only proved that he's got a world class chin but he's been the most dominant fighter in the last few years as proven by the fact that he's rarely lost a minute of a round much less a round. No, don't say Lomachenko has been better because he actually lost. Lomachenko fans need to start remembering that fight because it did actually happen.
Spence may have what it takes to beat Crawford but no one on this planet could outclass him or "walk him down" so you're opinion is rather ignorant and doesn't give Crawford the respect he earned in there.
Crawford's level of competition outside of Postol is a joke.
I am not giving A+ credit for only fighting solid/bum fighters.
Also, Canelo would have gotten KO'ed, but GGG was in the lights for the 1st 3 rounds and didn't throw a body punch.
By the time he started, Canelo was running.
Also, poor comparison because I think Spence is more skilled than GGG, by a good margin.
His walking down of Crawford wouldn't include the same telegraphed right hand repeatedly.
You are obviously in the minority because most intelligent boxing fans realize how special Crawford is. That's why he's now in the top 5 of most credible P4P lists.
You talk about Crawford's level of competition...it's a lot better than Spence's. LOL. You serious. Spence was losing the fight with Brook until Brook's eye socket went and that's the only fight Spence has won worth a damn. Terrance Crawford doesn't lose rounds. If Spence and Crawford fight at 147, I bet Crawford will be a heavy favorite for good reason.
You say Brooks eye socket went, as though Spence didn't punch it in
Spence was behind on points until he punched a guys eye socket in. Which meant he wasn't losing any more.
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
Crawford's level of competition outside of Postol is a joke.
I am not giving A+ credit for only fighting solid/bum fighters.
Also, Canelo would have gotten KO'ed, but GGG was in the lights for the 1st 3 rounds and didn't throw a body punch.
By the time he started, Canelo was running.
Also, poor comparison because I think Spence is more skilled than GGG, by a good margin.
His walking down of Crawford wouldn't include the same telegraphed right hand repeatedly.
You are obviously in the minority because most intelligent boxing fans realize how special Crawford is. That's why he's now in the top 5 of most credible P4P lists.
You talk about Crawford's level of competition...it's a lot better than Spence's. LOL. You serious. Spence was losing the fight with Brook until Brook's eye socket went and that's the only fight Spence has won worth a damn. Terrance Crawford doesn't lose rounds. If Spence and Crawford fight at 147, I bet Crawford will be a heavy favorite for good reason.
You say Brooks eye socket went, as though Spence didn't punch it in
Spence was behind on points until he punched a guys eye socket in. Which meant he wasn't losing any more.
Obviously, Brook has a real issue with those two eye sockets. I don't know if he's got soft bones in his face or what but busting both eye sockets in consecutive fights is more about his bone structure than what the other guy did to it IMO. My point is that if his socket didn't break than Brook would have won that fight against Spence.
caldo2025 wrote:
You are obviously in the minority because most intelligent boxing fans realize how special Crawford is. That's why he's now in the top 5 of most credible P4P lists.
You talk about Crawford's level of competition...it's a lot better than Spence's. LOL. You serious. Spence was losing the fight with Brook until Brook's eye socket went and that's the only fight Spence has won worth a damn. Terrance Crawford doesn't lose rounds. If Spence and Crawford fight at 147, I bet Crawford will be a heavy favorite for good reason.
You say Brooks eye socket went, as though Spence didn't punch it in
Spence was behind on points until he punched a guys eye socket in. Which meant he wasn't losing any more.
Obviously, Brook has a real issue with those two eye sockets. I don't know if he's got soft bones in his face or what but busting both eye sockets in consecutive fights is more about his bone structure than what the other guy did to it IMO. My point is that if his socket didn't break than Brook would have won that fight against Spence.
would have? as a fact? as an incontrovertible EO-style fully backed up with lawyer's affidavits fact? lol. BS, man.
Brook was wilting. he didn't like the pace and he didn't like the bodyshots. Spence was on his way to winning that fight, eye or no eye, IMO
Counter-puncher wrote:
You say Brooks eye socket went, as though Spence didn't punch it in
Spence was behind on points until he punched a guys eye socket in. Which meant he wasn't losing any more.
Obviously, Brook has a real issue with those two eye sockets. I don't know if he's got soft bones in his face or what but busting both eye sockets in consecutive fights is more about his bone structure than what the other guy did to it IMO. My point is that if his socket didn't break than Brook would have won that fight against Spence.
would have? as a fact? as an incontrovertible EO-style fully backed up with lawyer's affidavits fact? lol. BS, man.
Brook was wilting. he didn't like the pace and he didn't like the bodyshots. Spence was on his way to winning that fight, eye or no eye, IMO
The fight was in Brook's backyard and the judges had been very kind to him in the earlier rounds that were evenly contested. IMO Brook would have won. How's that? I assumed that you knew that this was IN MY OPINION and not fact because Brook got knocked out so I'll type those 3 letter next time so you can definitely tell the difference between my opinion and facts ok? My bad.
caldo2025 wrote:
Obviously, Brook has a real issue with those two eye sockets. I don't know if he's got soft bones in his face or what but busting both eye sockets in consecutive fights is more about his bone structure than what the other guy did to it IMO. My point is that if his socket didn't break than Brook would have won that fight against Spence.
would have? as a fact? as an incontrovertible EO-style fully backed up with lawyer's affidavits fact? lol. BS, man.
Brook was wilting. he didn't like the pace and he didn't like the bodyshots. Spence was on his way to winning that fight, eye or no eye, IMO
The fight was in Brook's backyard and the judges had been very kind to him in the earlier rounds that were evenly contested. IMO Brook would have won. How's that? .
better than your 'brittle bones' BS to downplay Spence's accurate thudding power, anyway
would have? as a fact? as an incontrovertible EO-style fully backed up with lawyer's affidavits fact? lol. BS, man.
Brook was wilting. he didn't like the pace and he didn't like the bodyshots. Spence was on his way to winning that fight, eye or no eye, IMO
The fight was in Brook's backyard and the judges had been very kind to him in the earlier rounds that were evenly contested. IMO Brook would have won. How's that? .
better than your 'brittle bones' BS to downplay Spence's accurate thudding power, anyway
Coming from someone that things Terrance Crawford sucks...yeah, I want to get into a battery of boxing intelligence with you. LOL. What an idiot.
caldo2025 wrote:
The fight was in Brook's backyard and the judges had been very kind to him in the earlier rounds that were evenly contested. IMO Brook would have won. How's that? .
better than your 'brittle bones' BS to downplay Spence's accurate thudding power, anyway
Coming from someone that things Terrance Crawford sucks...yeah, I want to get into a battery of boxing intelligence with you. LOL. What an idiot.
you won't find me saying Terrance Crawford sucks, anywhere, cos i don't think that. not that you'll be bothered but if you go back far enough you'll see my ecstatic reaction to his WC debut vs Burns
so you'll have to find another label than 'hater', not that you've got the basic gumption to do anything than label in that lazy-ass way, 'uh he's defending Spence a lil' bit, uh, hater' lol you're a fool, an enjoyable one though, I like you that way. i just have to put you right when you veer off into your fool-space.
Counter-puncher wrote:
better than your 'brittle bones' BS to downplay Spence's accurate thudding power, anyway
Coming from someone that things Terrance Crawford sucks...yeah, I want to get into a battery of boxing intelligence with you. LOL. What an idiot.
you won't find me saying Terrance Crawford sucks, anywhere, cos i don't think that. not that you'll be bothered but if you go back far enough you'll see my ecstatic reaction to his WC debut vs Burns
so you'll have to find another label than 'hater', not that you've got the basic gumption to do anything than label in that lazy-ass way, 'uh he's defending Spence a lil' bit, uh, hater' lol you're a fool, an enjoyable one though, I like you that way. i just have to put you right when you veer off into your fool-space.
its pretty simple, chica, Spence and Crawford are both real good fighters, to me like with Ward-Kovalev 1, anyone saying with total confidence one will definitely beat/destroy the other, is overlooking one of those fighters.
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Totally agree, they're the two best in the world to me.
closest matchup to Leaonard-Hearns 1 in years, IMO
Too bad we won't see it anytime soon. Best we can hope for is Spence breaking down Thurman next year. Once the pbc closes up shop boxing will be better off.
As good as Spence is, Crawfords boxing instincts are just supernatural, i don't think i've ever seen anything like it .
Granted, i think Spence may be the only welterweight in the world that can successfully implement a bully-style on Crawford, atleast for some portion of the fight anyway.
I'm glad this potential match-up is gaining buzz and momentum, hopefully by the end of 2018 it happens, it looks like Spence will be able to make Welterweight easily for about another year, after that though he'll probably struggle to do so.
