Wilder about AJ: "It's either two things, you're scared or you're doping."

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Re: Wilder about AJ: "It's either two things, you're scared or you're doping."

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candyslim wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
I listened to the interview. Apparently we will have to wait until Joshua grows a pair before he can brutalize Wilder...
So the guy who has been dusting Wilders sack for the last five years is now saying AJ needs to grow a pair.

You and Deontay may be the best love story I've ever read.
"Hey Doc, help me I got something clamped to my asshole, and it's sucking like it's on its mamas titty"

"Remove your clothing Mr. Wilder and touch your toes" ... "ah yes it is as you describe"

"What it is Doc?"

"It is a living parasitic entity which survives by ingesting, regurgitating, and recycling your waste matter. This one appears particularly stubborn"

"Does it got a name Doc?"

"I won't trouble you with the Latin, Mr Wilder but it is commonly known as a husker. There are different levels of severity and what you have here is a bad husker"
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Wilder about AJ: "It's either two things, you're scared or you're doping."

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punchoutsb wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
I understand it’s not completely his fault, but after a while all people think is this guy is all talk no action.

I’ll look forward to Joshua brutalising him
I listened to the interview. Apparently we will have to wait until Joshua grows a pair before he can brutalize Wilder...
So the guy who has been dusting Wilders sack for the last five years is now saying AJ needs to grow a pair.

You and Deontay may be the best love story I've ever read.

I'm not a Wilder nut hugger, but at least I am honest enough to take a stand against idiots when a boxer is not deserving of criticism when things are beyond his control. You are in the idiot group now, so enjoy the company of the circle you are now in. Maybe they will let you be pivot man.

I've never attempted to defend his over-all resume, which is weak, except the two fights he took coming off a broken hand and bicep injury, and the 3 that were cancelled due to his opponents pissing dirty. Now that AJ publicly states he is not ready to face Wilder until 2019 or 2020? It speaks volumes. He could have said Wilder needs to earn a shot or its about money, but I do credit him for his honesty.

I personally don't give a rats ass what you think of me. I find it funny as hell that you apparently hate Wilder and feel embarrassed for AJ. AJ is the better boxer, very well could win, but him and Hearn realize Wilder is too dangerous of a fight to risk right now.
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candyslim wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
I listened to the interview. Apparently we will have to wait until Joshua grows a pair before he can brutalize Wilder...
So the guy who has been dusting Wilders sack for the last five years is now saying AJ needs to grow a pair.

You and Deontay may be the best love story I've ever read.
"Hey Doc, help me I got something clamped to my asshole, and it's sucking like it's on its mamas titty"

"Remove your clothing Mr. Wilder and touch your toes" ... "ah yes it is as you describe"

"What it is Doc?"

"It is a living parasitic entity which survives by ingesting, regurgitating, and recycling your waste matter. This one appears particularly stubborn"

"Does it got a name Doc?"

"I won't trouble you with the Latin, Mr Wilder but it is commonly known as a husker. There are different levels of severity and what you have here is a bad husker"
:lol: :lol:
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Badhusker wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
I listened to the interview. Apparently we will have to wait until Joshua grows a pair before he can brutalize Wilder...
So the guy who has been dusting Wilders sack for the last five years is now saying AJ needs to grow a pair.

You and Deontay may be the best love story I've ever read.

I'm not a Wilder nut hugger
:lol: :lol: :stop:
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Badhusker wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
I listened to the interview. Apparently we will have to wait until Joshua grows a pair before he can brutalize Wilder...
So the guy who has been dusting Wilders sack for the last five years is now saying AJ needs to grow a pair.

You and Deontay may be the best love story I've ever read.

AJ is the better boxer, very well could win, but him and Hearn realize Wilder is too dangerous of a fight to risk right now.
LOLLLL Wilder is dangerous only for bums. He is the bum beater. :OhYes:
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Re: Wilder about AJ: "It's either two things, you're scared or you're doping."

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Badhusker wrote:
apollo creed wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:The only articles anyone reads about wilder is things he says. It’d be good to read some stuff about a fight he’s had
You didn't read about the wars he had with ATG HW legends like Stiverne, Molina, Szpilka and Arreola ?! :D[/quote

Imagine if it was Wilder that said he wanted to wait until 2019 or 2020 to fight Joshua because he wasn't ready? Joshua is pulling the old "its up to my promoter" BS. I guess it is true then that he wouldn't have taken the Wlad fight if Wlad wasn't 41 and looked like he was totally shot against Fury. All making sense now, true colors are showing. He wouldn't even mention Ortiz'z name either.

3 fights have been cancelled beyond Wilder's control. He has to fight Stiverne again that is beyond his control. Who next is an acceptable opponent? How many Heavys out there would you be on to beat him if he is so terrible?
Stiverne reinstalled as mandatory is a move controlled and choreographed by Haymon. Stiverne is owed more rewards for throwing the first Wilder fight. A rematch with Wilder is the only way Haymon could give Stiverne another payday. Thus why Haymon has manipulated the undeserving Stiverne to be WBC mandatory again.

The drug tests of Povetkin and Ortiz were most likely fabricated fake positive tests by Haymon for smoke and mirrors effects on the Wilder Fraud Show.
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If Wilder is so great as he says he is, why not fight and beat up Ortiz and Povetkin anyway? No, he ran away as fast as a rat the first chance he got to duck Povetkin and Ortiz.

Stiverne was the plan all along. Stiverne is owed another favor for throwing the first Wilder fight.

Why the F*** else would Stiverne be WBC mandatory again??????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Wilder is just playing safe till the Joshua fight arrives. Povetkin and Ortiz weren't roided.
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Post by Enlightened-One »

Some of the comments posted to this thread are startlingly stupid, which makes me think that this could be due to only one of two potential causes, either: several posters are suffering from some unfortunate form of mental subnormality; or I’m an intellectual powerhouse. :roll:
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Badhusker wrote:I'm not a Wilder nut hugger, but at least I am honest enough to take a stand against idiots when a boxer is not deserving of criticism when things are beyond his control. You are in the idiot group now, so enjoy the company of the circle you are now in. Maybe they will let you be pivot man.

I've never attempted to defend his over-all resume, which is weak, except the two fights he took coming off a broken hand and bicep injury, and the 3 that were cancelled due to his opponents pissing dirty. Now that AJ publicly states he is not ready to face Wilder until 2019 or 2020? It speaks volumes. He could have said Wilder needs to earn a shot or its about money, but I do credit him for his honesty.

I personally don't give a rats ass what you think of me. I find it funny as hell that you apparently hate Wilder and feel embarrassed for AJ. AJ is the better boxer, very well could win, but him and Hearn realize Wilder is too dangerous of a fight to risk right now.
A lot of words to not say anything. The only fact that matters is you have been defending Wilder like a knight in shining armor. That's actually fine considering he DOES get a stupid amount of hate from the idiot group as you call them. The problem is that now you're calling on AJ to find his nuts when he will have faced Klitschko, Whyte, and Pulev before reaching 20 fights. In the meantime you'll continue to say Wilder had no say in his nearly 40 fights. I don't dislike you, in fact you're a good poster when Wilder isn't the subject. When it comes to Deontay you seem creepily concerned with how he is treated and it just makes you look like a massive hypocrite.
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Badhusker wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
I listened to the interview. Apparently we will have to wait until Joshua grows a pair before he can brutalize Wilder...
So the guy who has been dusting Wilders sack for the last five years is now saying AJ needs to grow a pair.

You and Deontay may be the best love story I've ever read.

I'm not a Wilder nut hugger, but at least I am honest enough to take a stand against idiots when a boxer is not deserving of criticism when things are beyond his control. You are in the idiot group now, so enjoy the company of the circle you are now in. Maybe they will let you be pivot man.

I've never attempted to defend his over-all resume, which is weak, except the two fights he took coming off a broken hand and bicep injury, and the 3 that were cancelled due to his opponents pissing dirty. Now that AJ publicly states he is not ready to face Wilder until 2019 or 2020? It speaks volumes. He could have said Wilder needs to earn a shot or its about money, but I do credit him for his honesty.

I personally don't give a rats ass what you think of me. I find it funny as hell that you apparently hate Wilder and feel embarrassed for AJ. AJ is the better boxer, very well could win, but him and Hearn realize Wilder is too dangerous of a fight to risk right now.
Then why don't we hear anything about the innocent Povetkin right now? Why doesn't Wilder talkabout Parker any more? Why is Stiverne not a problem any more and why doesn't Breazeale receive money from Stiverne either? They had a contract right? What's the problem around Ortiz in the first place? He let himself being tested all year long just to proof he's innocent, and now all of a sudden there's a problem with a medicine he's taking for years? And all of that exactly like many people, including me, predicted months and months beforehand?

Sorry mate, but as we all know, Wilder would never accept a challenge, only big paydays and that's it.
Wilder and his fans don't talk about Parker any more for a reason, and that reason is that Wilder probably never wanted to fight Parker.
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Post by ewenhay »

asdfjkl wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
ewenhay wrote:
Nah, Joshua v Wilder is the biggest fight in the Heavyweight division at the moment by a country mile regardless of what you think of either fighter
I don't know man, aj vs Zhang would be massive! :lol:
Fabio Maldonado would generate similar numbers as Wilder.
Now you're just being silly. The fight with Wilder is the biggest in the Heavyweight division because Wilder is American, holds the WBC belt and is recognised by most as the current number 2 regardless of his resume and recent inactivity. The 2 fights which could generate the biggest numbers would be Joshua against Fury or Haye as they are big names in the UK. After that it's probably Parker then Povetkin.
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Having said that I think Joshua is far from unbeatable even in a weak era. His 3 best (only?) wins are Wladimir, Bleasdale and Whyte. Although he stopped them all Whyte gave him a bit of trouble for a while , he struggled to put Bleasdale away and he went life and death with Wlad before finishing the job. His condition after Wlad dropped him was pretty alarming I'd say and must be a worry for his team. A younger Wlad would have finished him at that point I think.
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Joshua's not the finished article yet. I agree he looked very vulnerable against Klitschko during the 5th and 6th but even at 41 Wlad on that performance would probably have beaten anyone else except a prime Tyson Fury who has the style to beat Wlad every time imo.

Breazeale is not an easy man to get rid of. I think Joshua did well and Whyte too is no pushover. Martin doesn' t rate a mention but he was a big unbeaten southpaw with a world title belt and before the fight people were questioning the wisdom of throwing Joshua in with him. Don't forget he destroyed Molina who aquitted himself very well against Wilder, and buzzed him at one point. He also got a strike against "Kingpin" who wasn't a top fighter but had never been stopped until the AJ fight.

There are still questions for Joshua to answer, but in my opinion he's already the best and getting better. I think it's silly to talk about him as an ATG at this point in his career but he's definitely on track.
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Enlightened-One wrote:Some of the comments posted to this thread are startlingly stupid, which makes me think that this could be due to only one of two potential causes, either: several posters are suffering from some unfortunate form of mental subnormality; or I’m an intellectual powerhouse. :roll:
I’d say it’s the former
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ewenhay wrote:Having said that I think Joshua is far from unbeatable even in a weak era. His 3 best (only?) wins are Wladimir, Bleasdale and Whyte. Although he stopped them all Whyte gave him a bit of trouble for a while , he struggled to put Bleasdale away and he went life and death with Wlad before finishing the job. His condition after Wlad dropped him was pretty alarming I'd say and must be a worry for his team. A younger Wlad would have finished him at that point I think.
Breazeale. His name is Breazeale. Whyte gave him trouble for two minutes. You just sound like somebody regurgitating stuff other people have written and just watch highlights or memes. Jesus... Bleadsdale?! This forum is terrible at the moment.

Wilder has had terrible opposition. I watched both of Spilka's fights with Mike Mollo before he got in with Wilder and knew the guy was very sub par, yet was amazed to see him give Wilder fits. Deontay is not a good boxer. He has a a title and is loud and that's it. AJ is slowly building a decent resume and stacking serious money in the UK and Wilder is like a little kid calling across the park "to come over here and I'll kick your ass! No, YOU come over HERE! Yeah! HERE! See, he ain't coming over here, he scared!"

Meanwhile you've got a queue of fighters a mile long waiting to get those stacks of lovely new plasticky ten pound notes. I'm not one for conspiracies, but I certainly wouldn't want to fight Wilder and suddenly get a career ruining positive test all of a sudden.
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ewenhay wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: I don't know man, aj vs Zhang would be massive! :lol:
Fabio Maldonado would generate similar numbers as Wilder.
Now you're just being silly. The fight with Wilder is the biggest in the Heavyweight division because Wilder is American, holds the WBC belt and is recognised by most as the current number 2 regardless of his resume and recent inactivity. The 2 fights which could generate the biggest numbers would be Joshua against Fury or Haye as they are big names in the UK. After that it's probably Parker then Povetkin.
Sorry, as long as Wilder hasn't fought any top contender, he's simply worth no way near anything like Povetkin.
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Wilder must prove himself by fighting at least guys like Whyte, Parker or Lucas Browne. All three in 1 year would be ideal!
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clopixolacuphase wrote:
ewenhay wrote:Having said that I think Joshua is far from unbeatable even in a weak era. His 3 best (only?) wins are Wladimir, Bleasdale and Whyte. Although he stopped them all Whyte gave him a bit of trouble for a while , he struggled to put Bleasdale away and he went life and death with Wlad before finishing the job. His condition after Wlad dropped him was pretty alarming I'd say and must be a worry for his team. A younger Wlad would have finished him at that point I think.
Breazeale. His name is Breazeale. Whyte gave him trouble for two minutes. You just sound like somebody regurgitating stuff other people have written and just watch highlights or memes. Jesus... Bleadsdale?! This forum is terrible at the moment.

Wilder has had terrible opposition. I watched both of Spilka's fights with Mike Mollo before he got in with Wilder and knew the guy was very sub par, yet was amazed to see him give Wilder fits. Deontay is not a good boxer. He has a a title and is loud and that's it. AJ is slowly building a decent resume and stacking serious money in the UK and Wilder is like a little kid calling across the park "to come over here and I'll kick your ass! No, YOU come over HERE! Yeah! HERE! See, he ain't coming over here, he scared!"

Meanwhile you've got a queue of fighters a mile long waiting to get those stacks of lovely new plasticky ten pound notes. I'm not one for conspiracies, but I certainly wouldn't want to fight Wilder and suddenly get a career ruining positive test all of a sudden.
Do spelling mistakes normally cause you to experience such completely disproportionate feelings of anger and frustration?

I've watched the fights thank you very much. I won't be crowning Joshua the best heavyweight of all time just yet, I think there are plenty of vulnerabilities there.
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apollo creed wrote:Wilder must prove himself by fighting at least guys like Whyte, Parker or Lucas Browne. All three in 1 year would be ideal!
I thought Parker was willing to fight again, but Wilder probably wants none of that any more.
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ewenhay wrote:
clopixolacuphase wrote:
ewenhay wrote:Having said that I think Joshua is far from unbeatable even in a weak era. His 3 best (only?) wins are Wladimir, Bleasdale and Whyte. Although he stopped them all Whyte gave him a bit of trouble for a while , he struggled to put Bleasdale away and he went life and death with Wlad before finishing the job. His condition after Wlad dropped him was pretty alarming I'd say and must be a worry for his team. A younger Wlad would have finished him at that point I think.
Breazeale. His name is Breazeale. Whyte gave him trouble for two minutes. You just sound like somebody regurgitating stuff other people have written and just watch highlights or memes. Jesus... Bleadsdale?! This forum is terrible at the moment.

Wilder has had terrible opposition. I watched both of Spilka's fights with Mike Mollo before he got in with Wilder and knew the guy was very sub par, yet was amazed to see him give Wilder fits. Deontay is not a good boxer. He has a a title and is loud and that's it. AJ is slowly building a decent resume and stacking serious money in the UK and Wilder is like a little kid calling across the park "to come over here and I'll kick your ass! No, YOU come over HERE! Yeah! HERE! See, he ain't coming over here, he scared!"

Meanwhile you've got a queue of fighters a mile long waiting to get those stacks of lovely new plasticky ten pound notes. I'm not one for conspiracies, but I certainly wouldn't want to fight Wilder and suddenly get a career ruining positive test all of a sudden.
Do spelling mistakes normally cause you to experience such completely disproportionate feelings of anger and frustration?

I've watched the fights thank you very much. I won't be crowning Joshua the best heavyweight of all time just yet, I think there are plenty of vulnerabilities there.
It's not a spelling mistake: it's the wrong name. It doesn't matter quite as much. I can't wait for Anthony Jerkman to fight Doentay Wildebeest.

I was certainly annointing Jerkman to be the best ever heavyweight before your brilliantly researched post so thank you for your input. I have learned much today.
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clopixolacuphase wrote:
ewenhay wrote:
clopixolacuphase wrote: Breazeale. His name is Breazeale. Whyte gave him trouble for two minutes. You just sound like somebody regurgitating stuff other people have written and just watch highlights or memes. Jesus... Bleadsdale?! This forum is terrible at the moment.

Wilder has had terrible opposition. I watched both of Spilka's fights with Mike Mollo before he got in with Wilder and knew the guy was very sub par, yet was amazed to see him give Wilder fits. Deontay is not a good boxer. He has a a title and is loud and that's it. AJ is slowly building a decent resume and stacking serious money in the UK and Wilder is like a little kid calling across the park "to come over here and I'll kick your ass! No, YOU come over HERE! Yeah! HERE! See, he ain't coming over here, he scared!"

Meanwhile you've got a queue of fighters a mile long waiting to get those stacks of lovely new plasticky ten pound notes. I'm not one for conspiracies, but I certainly wouldn't want to fight Wilder and suddenly get a career ruining positive test all of a sudden.
Do spelling mistakes normally cause you to experience such completely disproportionate feelings of anger and frustration?

I've watched the fights thank you very much. I won't be crowning Joshua the best heavyweight of all time just yet, I think there are plenty of vulnerabilities there.
It's not a spelling mistake: it's the wrong name. It doesn't matter quite as much. I can't wait for Anthony Jerkman to fight Doentay Wildebeest.

I was certainly annointing Jerkman to be the best ever heavyweight before your brilliantly researched post so thank you for your input. I have learned much today.
Now you're just making a fool of yourself. I've learned everything I need to know about you. Cheers for your input.
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ewenhay wrote:
clopixolacuphase wrote:
ewenhay wrote:
Do spelling mistakes normally cause you to experience such completely disproportionate feelings of anger and frustration?

I've watched the fights thank you very much. I won't be crowning Joshua the best heavyweight of all time just yet, I think there are plenty of vulnerabilities there.
It's not a spelling mistake: it's the wrong name. It doesn't matter quite as much. I can't wait for Anthony Jerkman to fight Doentay Wildebeest.

I was certainly annointing Jerkman to be the best ever heavyweight before your brilliantly researched post so thank you for your input. I have learned much today.
Now you're just making a fool of yourself. I've learned everything I need to know about you. Cheers for your input.
If only you put as much research into everything else...
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Joshua is a really smart businessman.. He knows it's to his benefit for more people to believe Wilder would beat him and that he's reluctant to fight him, and somehow cleverly avoiding fighting the unstoppable American.. He knows it doesn't make a hair of difference what anybody thinks as long as it builds up the fight and makes Wilder into some kind of monster if possible.. He knows the only thing that really matters is who wins when the fight happens -- everything that happens before they get into the ring and fight is irrelevant after the fight is over.

He could beat Deontay tomorrow but it doesn't matter.. How much prestige he gains when he wins is the important thing to think about.. Is he going to say this fight is going to be super easy for him???? Remember what Joshua said before he fought the then undefeated Charles Martin.. "If I fight Martin like I fought Dillian Whyte, there is no way I'm going to win." ... Some people started saying Martin's southpaw style is what he's afraid of.. "Joshua has never seen a southpaw in his pro career.. He's screwed." .. Right!!
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Re: Wilder about AJ: "It's either two things, you're scared or you're doping."

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Donkey is talking trash. According to Hearn, Joshua's next fight after Pulev will be abroad (U.S. or Middle East) and after that he plans unification with Wilder being a preferrable opponent.
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