Is Rigondeaux a better boxer than Lomachenko ?

[Counter-puncher]

If rigo is better the size won't be an issue.

When they are both very skilled, size becomes more of a factor. I don't think it's a impossible feat for Rigo, but size will most likely be the biggest deciding factor in this one.

I bet rigo has longer arms, shouldn't be a factor at all.

[NateJR]

If rigo is better the size won't be an issue.

When they are both very skilled, size becomes more of a factor. I don't think it's a impossible feat for Rigo, but size will most likely be the biggest deciding factor in this one.

I bet rigo has longer arms, shouldn't be a factor at all.

Ok. So weight divisions mean nothing. It's all about reach, yeah Rigos reach is the only thing he needs to his advantage to make it so the fight is on a even playing field. Gotcha.

Tommy Hearns could have competed at HW since he had a longer reach than most heavyweights. Mike Tyson had a shorter reach so size wouldn't be a factor, even fight no advantage to Tyson. Damn after all this time I had it all wrong, you really have it all figured out Saad.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Nice post.

[Counter-puncher]

When they are both very skilled, size becomes more of a factor. I don't think it's a impossible feat for Rigo, but size will most likely be the biggest deciding factor in this one.

I bet rigo has longer arms, shouldn't be a factor at all.

Ok. So weight divisions mean nothing. It's all about reach, yeah Rigos reach is the only thing he needs to his advantage to make it so the fight is on a even playing field. Gotcha.

Tommy Hearns could have competed at HW since he had a longer reach than most heavyweights. Mike Tyson had a shorter reach so size wouldn't be a factor, even fight no advantage to Tyson. Damn after all this time I had it all wrong, you really have it all figured out Saad.

Nate, dude, he was saying the reach probably won't be a factor, wtf you smoking this morning

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I don't think the size will be a factor at all. 2 inches in height, half dozen pounds, shorter arms. I'm not surprised Nate doesn't understand the weight part of the game. Few fans do, probably one of those guys telling me pac was too small for Oscar. The reach is pertinent here because Loma will be more aggressive and rigo will look to drop that long left counter on him.

[NateJR]

I bet rigo has longer arms, shouldn't be a factor at all.

Ok. So weight divisions mean nothing. It's all about reach, yeah Rigos reach is the only thing he needs to his advantage to make it so the fight is on a even playing field. Gotcha.

Tommy Hearns could have competed at HW since he had a longer reach than most heavyweights. Mike Tyson had a shorter reach so size wouldn't be a factor, even fight no advantage to Tyson. Damn after all this time I had it all wrong, you really have it all figured out Saad.

Nate, dude, he was saying the reach probably won't be a factor, wtf you smoking this morning

I don't believe that's what he meant by that statement. How I took it, Saad was saying because Rigo has a longer reach, size is a non-factor.

Possible I misinterpreted what he said, but that's how I took it.

[NateJR]

I don't think the size will be a factor at all. 2 inches in height, half dozen pounds, shorter arms. I'm not surprised Nate doesn't understand the weight part of the game. Few fans do, probably one of those guys telling me pac was too small for Oscar. The reach is pertinent here because Loma will be more aggressive and rigo will look to drop that long left counter on him.

Rigo is a tiny dude, he even looks small at 122 compared to his opponents. Pac/Oscar was under totally different circumstances, that comparison is laughable.

I believe the fight taking place at 130, which is 2 weight-classes above Rigos natural weight, is a bigger advantage to Lomachenko than you're playing it out to be.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

The guy talking about hearns fighting at heavyweight really shouldn't be talking about poor comparisons. Lomachenko isn't a big jr lightweight, if he was fighting one of the guys that hit the ring as welterweights it would be different.

[Stuarty]

I don't think the size will be a factor at all. 2 inches in height, half dozen pounds, shorter arms. I'm not surprised Nate doesn't understand the weight part of the game. Few fans do, probably one of those guys telling me pac was too small for Oscar. The reach is pertinent here because Loma will be more aggressive and rigo will look to drop that long left counter on him.

Rigo is a tiny dude, he even looks small at 122 compared to his opponents. Pac/Oscar was under totally different circumstances, that comparison is laughable.

I believe the fight taking place at 130, which is 2 weight-classes above Rigos natural weight, is a bigger advantage to Lomachenko than you're playing it out to be.

PAC/DLH was different coz Manny was on Arizas special milkshakes

[SaadOffTheDeck]

That he was, and Oscar was drained like a vampire had his way with him. Yet I was consistently called an idiot for picking Manny because it was 2 weight divisions, blah, blah, blah.

[Badhusker]

If size wasn't an advantage for Loma, I doubt if they would demand the fight be at 130. They could have fought at 126, but it is obvious now that Loma's team didn't want it there. I'm just glad they are finally fighting, and give Rigo credit for moving up.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

It makes no sense for the fight to be at 126. But I understand, you're loading up the excuses before the fight.

[Impractical Poster]

Loma is one of the best boxers I have ever seen, possibly the best. Yes, I think he is better than Rigo. Rigo is very good, but a little too patient. i feel Loma has more of a fast twitch brain and creates opportunities instead of waiting for them like Rigo does.

[Badhusker]

It makes no sense for the fight to be at 126. But I understand, you're loading up the excuses before the fight.

All I am saying is they talked about having this fight two years ago at 126. Loma had to agree to a re-hydration clause of 135 but wouldn't even though they claim he only comes in at 136. Rigo would have been 2 years younger as well. I can't see Loma losing this one, but there would have been a much better chance at 126 against a younger Rigo.

Reach is not a factor, but age and weight will be.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Age and reach might be, weight won't.

[NateJR]

Size and age are clearly the biggest advantages in this fight, which both favor Lomachenko. I can't even think of a example where a 38 year old moved up 2 weight divisions and beat a in their prime, top P4P fighter.

Stylistically I actually believe Rigo has the advantage, that's what will keep the fight some what competitive and intriguing. But I feel eventually that Lomachenko will wear Rigo down with heavier blows due to Rigo not being able to take the shots from the bigger man and Rigos power won't be enough to do the same to Lomachenko. I see there being a lot of tit for tat early on, but eventually it's going to be the smaller older man that gives out first. It's common sense really.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

[Counter-puncher]

Ironically i think Rigo hits a bit harder with his best single punch than Loma does. distinctly harder p4p, IMO

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I'm sure rigo is quite used to sparring with larger fighters. Loma isn't exactly the most physical fighter. Much Ado about nothing. Rigos biggest problem is the difference in activity. In and out of the ring.

[NateJR]

I'm sure rigo is quite used to sparring with larger fighters. Loma isn't exactly the most physical fighter. Much Ado about nothing. Rigos biggest problem is the difference in activity. In and out of the ring.

Rigos biggest problem is he's fighting a very skilled, young, prime, bigger man with pretty much every advantage imaginable other than the oh so mighty game changer "reach".

Stylistically the fight is intriguing. But the fight is pretty much a foregone conclusion based on the most obvious of reasons.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

We'll see. Are you as confident as you were when canelo was going to handle ggg easily?

[NateJR]

We'll see. Are you as confident as you were when canelo was going to handle ggg easily?

I'm always confident, never claimed I was always right.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

We'll see. Are you as confident as you were when canelo was going to handle ggg easily?

I'm always confident, never claimed I was always right.

you're wrong again.

[Tanzio]

I plead guilty of hoping Rigo finds a way to win. I think that the Cuban is right behind SOGgy for the enigmatic boxer crown.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I don't think he'll win, but the odds are better he wins than he is bullied around the ring by the much bigger and more physical fighter.