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fightfan95
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British Lightweights

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I think we have a lot of fighters in this division that could all beat each other, excluding Terry Flanagan and maybe Anthony Crolla...
Terry Flanagan, Anthony Crolla, Ricky Burns (I know he is fighting at super-lightweight, but lets put him in this), Derry Mathews, Luke Campbell, Tommy Coyle and Scott Cardle.
I think Terry is the clear #1 with Crolla #2 - but the rest is hard I think...
In a few years you could even throw in Ohara Davies...

So how would you rank them?
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Flanagan, Burns, Campbell, Crolla, Cardle, Mathews, Coyle.
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Flanagan, Burns, Crolla, Campbell, Mathews, Cardle, Coyle.

I'm not sold on Cardle, not one bit. He was in a tough fight with Craig Evans (naturally smaller) and I thought he got a generous stoppage against Dodd.

Up and coming, OHara Davies is blasting everybody out, think he's ready to step it up. Can't discount Zelfa Barrett and Joe Costello, who is returning on the May 13th show in Bolton after a lengthy injury.
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ozzy1875 wrote:Up and coming, OHara Davies is blasting everybody out
I think Ohara might step up in weight in a few years, he looks massive at the weight...
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Talent wise Campbell is the best but he showed last time out he can be bullied and out hustled. Flanagan is a tidy boxer and looks to have the bit between his teeth just now. I reckon it'll take something special to stop him. I would like to see him in with Linares.
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Currently I would go.

Flanaghan
Crolla
Burns
Matthews
Campbell
Coyle
Cardle

I would say top 4 are pretty close - Saturday could change everything. I would say Crolla is possibly in better form than Flanaghan, so a drab win for Flanaghan might place mean he moves down to 2.

If Mathews pulls of the upset, I would have him above Crolla at #1 cos stylewise he might just have Crolla's number. So I would probably just swap 1 and 4.

Perhaps I am being harsh on Cardle, just not sold at all on him.... its a good fight between him and Coyle and one that is hard to call.

Agree Campbell is the talent, but he cannot be ranked higher than that ATM based on his loss.

Feels weird doing this without Mitchell there.
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stujones wrote:Currently I would go.

Flanaghan
Crolla
Burns
Matthews
Campbell
Coyle
Cardle

This is how I pretty much would have it, but swap Campbell and Matthews...
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fightfan95 wrote:
Flanaghan
Crolla
Burns
Matthews
Campbell
Coyle
Cardle

This is how I pretty much would have it, but swap Campbell and Matthews...
If Mathews gets done on Saturday conclusively - e.g. early stoppage then I would swap them based on their performances against Coyle.

If it is fairly close - e.g. 116-112 Flanagan, then I would probably keep it as it is until Campbell steps up.
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stujones wrote:
fightfan95 wrote:
Flanaghan
Crolla
Burns
Matthews
Campbell
Coyle
Cardle

This is how I pretty much would have it, but swap Campbell and Matthews...
If Mathews gets done on Saturday conclusively - e.g. early stoppage then I would swap them based on their performances against Coyle.

If it is fairly close - e.g. 116-112 Flanagan, then I would probably keep it as it is until Campbell steps up.
Yeah seems a fair way on judging them, but if they both got in the ring tomorrow I would say Campbell beats Matthews.
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I'd go

Flanagan
Crolla
Burns
Matthews
Campbell
Cardle
Coyle

Flanagan best by a stretch in my opinion.
Crolla will outbox Barraso hopefully set up a Manchester derby.
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Stuarty30 wrote:Talent wise Campbell is the best but he showed last time out he can be bullied and out hustled. Flanagan is a tidy boxer and looks to have the bit between his teeth just now. I reckon it'll take something special to stop him. I would like to see him in with Linares.
Yeah I'd love to See Flanagan V Linares.
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in 12-18 months id put Lewis Ritson in with any of these guys, I think he will be the future of the lightweight division
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billy nelson wrote:in 12-18 months id put Lewis Ritson in with any of these guys, I think he will be the future of the lightweight division
Surely your looking to step Lewis forward mate?? Scott Cardle is definitely beatable I'm sure that fight would be there. Lightweight division is strong but Flanagan is above and beyond. I would say number 2 is actually Liam Walsh hearing that he and Flanagan are next what a fight that is. Genuine 50/50 fight..

As for Ricky he will be a 3 weight world champion no one can say he doesn't get a bit of luck Di Rococo should be routine for Ricky would be good if Ricky wins and defends against the winner of Limond v nurse
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billy nelson wrote:in 12-18 months id put Lewis Ritson in with any of these guys, I think he will be the future of the lightweight division
Ritson is a future star. British title, next stop European lightweight belt. Only 14 fights in and looking like a star.
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Wouldn't mind seeing Campbell v Flanagan if the Linares rematch can't be made. Looks as if he might take on Garcia next.
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Stuarty30 wrote:Wouldn't mind seeing Campbell v Flanagan if the Linares rematch can't be made. Looks as if he might take on Garcia next.
I was thinking Cambell Crolla. Then Flanagan.
What did you think of Ritson?
I only just got to see the fight and I was very impressed. For a 14 fight 25 year old, he is pretty decent.
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KiwiRider wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Wouldn't mind seeing Campbell v Flanagan if the Linares rematch can't be made. Looks as if he might take on Garcia next.
I was thinking Cambell Crolla. Then Flanagan.
What did you think of Ritson?
I only just got to see the fight and I was very impressed. For a 14 fight 25 year old, he is pretty decent.
Yeah very good. Billy used to train him and had mentioned him a while ago so I had kept my eye out for him. I tipped him to win last week. Wouldn't mind seeing him batter Cardle about :bag:
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Stuarty30 wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Wouldn't mind seeing Campbell v Flanagan if the Linares rematch can't be made. Looks as if he might take on Garcia next.
I was thinking Cambell Crolla. Then Flanagan.
What did you think of Ritson?
I only just got to see the fight and I was very impressed. For a 14 fight 25 year old, he is pretty decent.
Yeah very good. Billy used to train him and had mentioned him a while ago so I had kept my eye out for him. I tipped him to win last week. Wouldn't mind seeing him batter Cardle about :bag:
For sure - if Cardle has the heart. I thought he sort of gave up last time out. Maybe he was hurt or something. Definitely had an off night. Deserves another shot at the title.
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KiwiRider wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
KiwiRider wrote: I was thinking Cambell Crolla. Then Flanagan.
What did you think of Ritson?
I only just got to see the fight and I was very impressed. For a 14 fight 25 year old, he is pretty decent.
Yeah very good. Billy used to train him and had mentioned him a while ago so I had kept my eye out for him. I tipped him to win last week. Wouldn't mind seeing him batter Cardle about :bag:
For sure - if Cardle has the heart. I thought he sort of gave up last time out. Maybe he was hurt or something. Definitely had an off night. Deserves another shot at the title.
I can't stand the wee prick so hopefully Ritson gets him outta there if they fight.
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