EUBANK JR 6-5 over GROVES---too hi or too

[dickbelden]

lo ? oddschecker.com

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Just about right, pick em fight. The unknown is if Eubank can take Groves power.

[KiwiRider]

Sure is a 50/50 fight.
Eubank will have to prove himself at the top level and Groves will have to try and control the pace. Chin check Eubank, and stamina check Groves.
If I was a betting man I would keep my money in my pocket

[boxing_rocks]

That is a very exciting fight. Looking forward to it, as well as a winner vs Smith.

[Jip]

Eubank is much better than anybody except ramirez.

Groves no problem for him.

[Tanzio]

Toss up for me, but GG has around an even chance against anyone in the tourney and division with that kind of body work. I am really looking forward to this one. Both fighters are favorites of mine.

[Ossyrules]

I favour groves, but will openly admit I’m a groves fan, so my heart wants him to win also.

If eubank beats him he’s the real deal

[Lackeos]

Odds seem too close to me. Probably a bet on Eubank would be good.

[Ricky_]

Groves 65% imo

[Nightmare Roy]

Eubanks came up a bit short the only time he really stepped up but he seems to have improved, Groves is much better than Saunders though, it's a pick em fight but I'd lean towards Groves.

[candyslim]

Tough one to pick but I'll go with Eubank who is clearly improving.

[Enlightened-One]

George Groves is a massive super-middleweight, much bigger than Eubank Jr., and posseses truly concussive power.

In stark contrast, Eubank Jr's engine is almost super-human and if he can keep Groves on the ropes, his uppercuts are the perfect weapon of choice to break through George's defence.

The problem is... Groves is an outside fighter, which negates Eubank Jr's uppercuts, and is also arguably more skilled than anyone Chris has fought.

That being said, Eubank Jr's workrate and uppercuts is capable of overwhelming Groves within five rounds, as we almost saw when George seemed briefly on the cusp of defeat against Chudinov.

This is a pick 'em type of fight, but assuming Eubank Jr. has inherited his father's sturdy chin, then I see him outworking Groves en route to scoring a stoppage victory.

[Ossyrules]

I will rewatch the fight, but I don’t recall groves being on the cusp vs chudinov

[fightfan95]

I think the fight all depends on how Groves turns up on the night and what his and McGuigan's game plan is. I think if Groves starts with a prominent jab and keeps Eubank at distance, Groves will start to develop a big points lead, leaving Jnr to take risks and that's where Groves is most dangerous. On the other hand, we haven't really seen Jnr's chin get test, we know he lacks some power but the flurry of punches is there, so if he starts fast (which he didn't against bjs) and keeps the intensity up all night, does Groves have the stamina to keep with him? So it definitely is an interesting match-up.

At the moment I'll give Groves 60% - if he brings the right game plan than he will win imo.

[Batley18]

Should be an amazing night. I don't think Eubank will struggle with Groves power. I can see Groves winning the first few rounds and Eubank taking over in the middle and later rounds. 116-112 or 115-113 perhaps.

[Nightmare Roy]

I will actually pay for this one

[Evander]

Don't care about the odds.
The fight itself ...

George Groves has better tools available to him, but he's erratic and is obviously trying to involve himself in full on straighteners that impress the audience which he has to do to a certain extent but sells his craft short.
Whatever mindset and approach Groves had pre DeGale 1 and Froch 1 and 2 kept him grounded, no he didn't win them all but he was a much more effective and patient boxer all around.
The vibe I'm getting is that they think he can't go 12 or will gas out at some point and that likely has something to do with his approach of more recently.
Chris Eubank Jr had the latest eye catching knockout which stirred the fans up and rightly so, but we all know his record is padded and he hasn't had a significant win against a single noteworthy opponent no matter what his record says.
BJS beat him fair and square and Arthur Abraham was way over the hill which suggests team Eubank are relying more on hype than actual credible performances.
Chris acts the part looks the part but hasn't shown me any real progress in terms of quality apart from the multi punch combination that wiped out Yildirim, great finish I applaud him but it's hardly enough to laud him to a status worthy.

Stylewise it's a decent match up and will attract attention, the outcome may well come down to whether Groves wants to put the time in to devise as well as execute a plan to beat Eubank.
If Groves comes in with the I'll see you outside attitude and drops the gloves for a straightener so to speak then Eubank could beat him, but if Groves picks his moments it could well go the other way.

[coneye]

Intresting thing is the amount of hurtful body shots Groves has been throwing in his recent fights , Groves has the power , he has the skill set to do a number on Eubank and show him he's in with the big boys now , But the big question mark is does he have the stamina ,

[Kalan]

Just about right, pick em fight. The unknown is if Eubank can take Groves power.

Groves has no power.. That was proven in the Jack fight when Badou walked through him.. His chin isn't real good.

But Groves is tall and has been fighting at Super Middleweight for a long time.. This is the first veteran contender Eubank has faced at 168 so he can't go in there with his head up his ass.. But Eubank has come a long way since his loss to Saunders where he performed like a rookie -- so I don't think cockiness is necessarily going to be a major issue.. You can't be full of yourself versus a veteran fighter and Eubank tends to be cock-sure.

[Counter-puncher]

Just about right, pick em fight. The unknown is if Eubank can take Groves power.

Groves has power.. That was proven in the Froch fight when he put Froch on his ass

Agreed

[Kalan]

Don't edit my comments A-Hole... Knocking somebody down doesn't prove you have power... De La Hoya got knocked down by a feather hitter in an early fight... Jimmy Young knocked George Foreman down... Chuck Wepner has a supposed knockdown of Ali... Braddock knocked Louis down... Kevin Howard knocked Sugar Ray Leonard down... Bernard Hopkins knocked Joe Calzaghe down -- and didn't score a KO for 13 years to finish his career.

[Ossyrules]

Just about right, pick em fight. The unknown is if Eubank can take Groves power.

Groves has no power.. That was proven in the Jack fight when Badou walked through him.. His chin isn't real good.

But Groves is tall and has been fighting at Super Middleweight for a long time.. This is the first veteran contender Eubank has faced at 168 so he can't go in there with his head up his ass.. But Eubank has come a long way since his loss to Saunders where he performed like a rookie -- so I don't think cockiness is necessarily going to be a major issue.. You can't be full of yourself versus a veteran fighter and Eubank tends to be cock-sure.

Groves isn’t the second coming of mcclennan but he has power. Jack didn’t walk through him either. Are you confusing Groves with cleverly?

[Ossyrules]

Just about right, pick em fight. The unknown is if Eubank can take Groves power.

Groves has power.. That was proven in the Froch fight when he put Froch on his ass

Agreed

Spot on from kalan

[Counter-puncher]

Don't edit my comments A-Hole... Knocking somebody down doesn't prove you have power... .

you should be grateful, its the most sense you've made all week

knocking someone down doesn't necessarily prove you have power, i agree.

Knocking a guy down hard whom other decent punchers have hit hard and failed to put down, is a sign of an obvious puncher

I'll make it nice and easy for you, kessler could punch quite hard, he hit Froch bang on the chin and Froch just wobbled. the same shot from Grives put Froch on his ass. Groves can punch. i'd describe his spectacular KO of Paul Smith for you but I'd be wasting my time, we all know you'll just equivocate and change the rules to suit yourself, but there's a tiny little liquid nubbin there at the base of your skull that realises I just did you a favour in teaching you, there's a part of you that's rightly grateful to me just now, its just that you don't realise it

[Counter-puncher]

Groves has power.. That was proven in the Froch fight when he put Froch on his ass

Agreed

Spot on from kalan

see, kalan? when i do you the favour of editing your posts people agree with them.