wilder is almost 32. this ain't getting better.

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Re: wilder is almost 32. this ain't getting better.

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Enlightened-One wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote: I only quoted one of your claims and you responded by posting a load of irrelevant nonsense.

You might as well have responded by posting a pozza menu!
I say I predicted everything months beforehand, you ask for evidence, I give you evidence, you say say no, that has nothing to deal with it :s?! You get exactly what you're asking for and now you suddenly act like a German politic? You act like you didn't unnderstand your own question.
I quoted your words where you claimed that you predicted a certain situation "exactly".

I asked you to prove this.

You responded by submitting several lengthy posts that did not directly relate to that specific claim.

I would congratulate you if you did actually make the prediction that you boasted about, but unfortunately I cannot find any evidence to suggest that it was even made.

I don't mean to cause offence, but I only asked you to substantiate one simple claim you made... and so far, you've been unable to do it.
Once again, all the predictions are correct and all of them are in relation to the claim I made...
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Re: wilder is almost 32. this ain't getting better.

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asdfjkl wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: I say I predicted everything months beforehand, you ask for evidence, I give you evidence, you say say no, that has nothing to deal with it :s?! You get exactly what you're asking for and now you suddenly act like a German politic? You act like you didn't unnderstand your own question.
I quoted your words where you claimed that you predicted a certain situation "exactly".

I asked you to prove this.

You responded by submitting several lengthy posts that did not directly relate to that specific claim.

I would congratulate you if you did actually make the prediction that you boasted about, but unfortunately I cannot find any evidence to suggest that it was even made.

I don't mean to cause offence, but I only asked you to substantiate one simple claim you made... and so far, you've been unable to do it.
Once again, all the predictions are correct and all of them are in relation to the claim I made...
asdfjkl: Last week I "perfectly" predicted yesterday's winning lottery numbers! Aren't I clever?

Enlightened-One: Okay, prove it?

asdfjkl: "Trees have green leaves... yadda... yadda... yadda..." There's your evidence.

Enlightened-One: Eh? WTF!?!?
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Re: wilder is almost 32. this ain't getting better.

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Badhusker wrote:AJ probably couldn't have fought Wlad any sooner, correct. He wouldn't have either, if Wlad looked great and won vs Fury. An opportunity to fight him coming off a loss, end of his career, and looking terrible was a smart thing to do. Based on AJ saying he isn't ready for Wilder just yet speaks volumes about where he thinks he is in his career.

I have only defended Wilder's resume for the times he was coming off two broken hands, and the three fights that were called off due to his opponents pissing hot. Other than that, yeah, his resume is weak. One thing he can't be nailed on though is his willingness to fight. Its funny no one can come up with him ducking or turning down any offers from top five guys, which is his harshest criticism. Neither Fury wanted to fight him, AJ, Martin, to name a few according to Wilder.

He paid 6 figures plus to fight Ortiz instead of Stiverne, and got no credit for it. In fact he got the blame for Ortiz failing a test. Are there that many idiots on this forum? AJ could have fought Ortiz or Wilder instead of Pulev, who didn't want AJ last year. No surprise they aren't fighting. I admit using AJ as an example to defend Wilder, but only to point out the hypocrisy I read.
Fair response.

Wilder is no different to most topics on here, it all gets blown over the top. I can’t criticise Wlad for Joshua, as that’s just timing on how things worked out. Nobody expected Wlad to get beat by fury, which opened the doors to the division.

According to Hearn if it weren’t Wlad rematch then IBF mandatory was always front of the queue. So I can’t criticise him fulfilling a mandatory vs a guy whose borderline top 5 in the division.
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Re: wilder is almost 32. this ain't getting better.

Post by asdfjkl »

Enlightened-One wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote: I quoted your words where you claimed that you predicted a certain situation "exactly".

I asked you to prove this.

You responded by submitting several lengthy posts that did not directly relate to that specific claim.

I would congratulate you if you did actually make the prediction that you boasted about, but unfortunately I cannot find any evidence to suggest that it was even made.

I don't mean to cause offence, but I only asked you to substantiate one simple claim you made... and so far, you've been unable to do it.
Once again, all the predictions are correct and all of them are in relation to the claim I made...
asdfjkl: Last week I "perfectly" predicted yesterday's winning lottery numbers! Aren't I clever?

Enlightened-One: Okay, prove it?

asdfjkl: "Trees have green leaves... yadda... yadda... yadda..." There's your evidence.

Enlightened-One: Eh? WTF!?!?
I'll copy paste the old posts again so you might understand it this time.
As you can read again I wrote "Everybody knew beforehand Ortiz took those medicins, it's not like I predicted everything months beforehand perfect with just random luck", after that I copied piles of correct predictions made months beforehand.
All of them turned out to be correct, all of them. That's not luck, it's because it's expected, it's repetative, the behaviour of Wilder shows he already knows something that makes sure the fight won't happen. It happened with any good opponent he ever challenged. He only challenges them if he expect a massive payday, he challenges them and when he reacts me makes ridiculous offers, or he challenges them if he knows the other guy got a fight scheduled, he himself got a fight scheduled, he knows beforehand that he can get the good boxer banned or get the fight avoided for other reasons, that's just the way Wilder is. Wilder could have fought Stiverne back in may or something, but the didn't, because otherwise there would be a bigger chance he had to fight someone who's actually good.

Here are the previous posts made that confirm my story:
asdfjkl wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Everybody knew beforehand Ortiz took those medicins, it's not like I predicted everything months beforehand perfect with just random luck.
At the second time of asking… please prove your prediction.

This isn’t the first time you’ve boldly professed your wisdom and celebrated your own success about predicting events, whilst flatly-refusing to provide any evidence that proves your prophecy.
Wow really? Even you and me had a conversation about this subject months ago, but you appearantly forgot.
You can also easely look back in my posts, but no, if I say something, I need to proof it, when others say something, we just assume it to be the truth :S...




http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 4#p4725871
12 august:
asdfjkl wrote:It's at least remarkeble that they have a date scheduled and everything...

After 15 september Wilder his lab isn't suspended any more, so then Wilder can use all the doping he likes again, or fake dopingtests for whoever he's planning to fight but can't handle.
Confirmed, Wilder didn't sign anything for over a month till this ban was indeed over

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 7#p4724457
9 august:
asdfjkl wrote:
SteveO wrote: Exactly, Joshua is not ducking anybody.
He either fights his IBF mandatory (Pulev) and WBA mandatory (Ortiz) or loses the belts - quite simple to understand really.
Wilder will have to wait unless AJ decides to ditch the IBF and WBA titles and go for the WBC belt.
Well, AJ is simply waiting till Wilder stands up and fight someone, so the fight between himself and Wilder will be much bigger as it would be when they fought each other right now.
Somehow Wilder is just wasting time as long as his personal lab is suspended and after that he will fight a bum, most likely Stiverne.
Wilder indeed wasted time for no obvious reason, despite he always said in the past he wanted to be an active boxer, he wasted enough time till his personal lab their suspension indeed was over. Oh and I even had the name right, despite Stiverne said he was going to fight Breazeale, a fight he would obviously lose in about 2 or 3 rounds, and even was payed off by Wilder, so that fight certainly wouldn't happen. The fight happened anyway, exactly like I predicted.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 1#p4720231
3 august:
asdfjkl wrote: Povetkin doesn't have a drugs ban lol, but he does usually only fight once every 6 months ish, untill Wilder his lab wasted piles of time. Luckely that lab is currently suspended. This is also why Wilder probably doesn't fight at this moment, he needs that lab to keep him look like innocent.
I was right, the lab make him look like innocent, while in reality he probably uses more drugs and trains less as just about any boxing world champion. Even Wilder his car was loaded full of drugs, very suspicious for a guy that has never been caught by the lab he clearly has connections with. And indeed, after that lab wasn't banned any more, Wilder all of a sudden signed a deal.


http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 3#p4720823
4 august:
asdfjkl wrote:I think it's possible, they just should fight more often and always fight the biggest risk instead of just another bum. Wilder hasn't fought since his lab was suspended, AJ said he only wants to fight once every 6 months at max, Stiverne, Fury, what are they doing? Malik Scott really only fights just enough to stay in the boxrec rankings, Povetkin, max once every 6 months, and even then only if Wilder his lab doesn't make another "mistake".
Wilder could have fought Stiverne ages ago, but just sat down waiting. Then suddenly he acts like he wants to fight someone like he always does when he knows the fight won't happen and in the end he fights a bum anyway while wasting time on purpose.
Perfectly right again, he wasted loads of time and fights a bum anyway, exactly like predicted.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 4#p4712414
20 july:
asdfjkl wrote:I'd have to be honest, if Wilder goes into the ring with Ortiz this year, I'd have to give Wilder credits for not beïng a pussy any more. I would be happely proven wrong, especially if he does it while his lab is suspended.
I was right, Wilder once again didn't prove me wrong, despite all odds at the time suggested he might finally do it I turned out to be right all over again.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 4#p4712549
21 july:
asdfjkl wrote:I have similar things with Wilder, he always took the easy route and now he ducks 4,5 mil + against a reasonable opponent, asking for 7m+ and no time later he's planning to fight a much better opponent for much less money and a belt?
If the fight was in Europe with European referees, I think Ortiz actually got the odds.
Also, I'm used to the fact that Wilder only accepts good opposition if he knows he can duck, steal, or ask for unfair advantages. I just can't forget about all the things Wilder has done in the past, what does he know about Ortiz which can help him avoid the fight this time?

Please Wilder, proof me wrong, box him and do it in a fair way!
What does he know about Ortiz which can help him avoid the fight this time? And remember, this was posted almost 3 months ago! I even begged Wilder to proof me wrong, bud sadly he proved me right all over again.

A chat with you even:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 6#p4709783
16 july:
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
Facts: Povetkin is active. He looks in decent shape. He may well want to unify the decision - but then so does every heavyweight.

Fables: Wilder remains inactive until the lab is re-opened again (I'm assuming that's is what you're referring to - it's not clear).
I know that about Povetkin, that's why he fought the highest ranked guy he could get?

That's not a fable lol, I would be highly surprised if Wilder would fight anyone before the lab isn't suspended any more, despite he could easely proof me wrong ofcourse.
A bit over 3 months ago, you predicted Wilder wouldn't remain inactive until the lab is re-opened again, I said "I would be highly surprised if Wilder would fight anyone before the lab isn't suspened any more, despite he could easely proof me wrong", sadly Wilder proved me right, he patiently waited till his lab wasn't suspended any more and once it wasn't suspended any more he abused it to avoid the fight. Also note that Wilder had well over 2 months to proof me wrong, but didn't do it, most likely because he couldn't be tested by a real and independant lab.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 2#p4707882
17 july:
asdfjkl wrote:Similar things happened with Guillermo Rigondeaux vs Moises Flores , Guillermo won, by a first round KO (ofcourse he won lol, he's in the same education Tyrone Spong has had, they are the best of the world).

But then in Nevada they decided it to be a no contest.

That same Nevada who also said Povetkin used doping, twice, and were proven wrong. Twice! Now their lab is suspended and suddenly Wilder doesn't fight any more.

Cheating Ward, corrupt refs, it's all one massive sad show.

The only way McGegor or whatever his name is can win is if the Americans decide their scams are too obvious nowadays and simply let junior lose and move over to MMA.
I was right all over again, their lab is suspended and suddenly Wilder, the guy who's so amazing and wanted to be an active champion and all his other bullshittalkstories didn't sign anything till the lab isn't suspended any more.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 3#p4702033
4 july:
asdfjkl wrote:
MachoTime wrote:
I'd bet if you were on the Wilder vs. Povetkin civil trial jury it would be 11-1 instead of 12-0. You would be the 1 vote for Povetkin.
You expect everyone in the jury to ignore facts and expect them to be racists? You could very well be right actually.
As you can see, everyone, including you, is ignoring all the facts and vote against anything and everybody who doesn't agree with Wilder.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 8#p4701988
4 july:
asdfjkl wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Did the WBC remove Stiverne as mandatory?
No ofcourse not, he would probably lose against anyone in the current top 25 from the WBC, but he's the mandatory without any fight against anyone in the WBC list since his loss against Wilder.
All facts, Stiverne would currently probably lose against anyone in the entire WBC top 25 rankings. I'm actually concerned about his health if he steps up against a good opponent.
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Re: wilder is almost 32. this ain't getting better.

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asdfjkl wrote:All facts, Stiverne would currently probably lose against anyone in the entire WBC top 25 rankings. I'm actually concerned about his health if he steps up against a good opponent.
true. will be terribly one sided. such
a long layoff and then facing a big
puncher ... not a good situation,
especially since wilder has improved
plus held back last time.
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