EUBANK JR 6-5 over GROVES---too hi or too

[Counter-puncher]

But Groves is tall .

he's 5'11. you can't even get simple stuff like this right.

[lazboy]

Groves has power.. That was proven in the Froch fight when he put Froch on his ass

Agreed

Spot on from kalan

Yes good post from Kalan, and good on you both for affirming him when he's correct.

[Counter-puncher]

[danconnollyeire]

Just about right, pick em fight. The unknown is if Eubank can take Groves power.

Groves has no power.. That was proven in the Jack fight when Badou walked through him.. His chin isn't real good.

But Groves is tall and has been fighting at Super Middleweight for a long time.. This is the first veteran contender Eubank has faced at 168 so he can't go in there with his head up his ass.. But Eubank has come a long way since his loss to Saunders where he performed like a rookie -- so I don't think cockiness is necessarily going to be a major issue.. You can't be full of yourself versus a veteran fighter and Eubank tends to be cock-sure.

Groves has no power? You high. Fvck, fake news rife of what

[danconnollyeire]

Groves hits like a fvcking mule

[Oiky]

Tricky fight to pick

Slightly leaning towards groves

[Counter-puncher]

Groves hits like a fvcking mule

I was there when he did Smith

Smith legs were fvcked for MINUTES from that shot

[Counter-puncher]

Groves has no power.

Once again for giggles

[jamamb]

groves isnt a massive hitter imo. but definitely good power. prob among hardest hitting counter punchers today. i think a lot with him is that he also has speed and catches you with shots you dont brace for. when he just tees off on guys its actually when he doesnt get his best stoppages. froch, cox, smith, i think happened when he coutnered.

[Ossyrules]

groves isnt a massive hitter imo. but definitely good power. prob among hardest hitting counter punchers today. i think a lot with him is that he also has speed and catches you with shots you dont brace for. when he just tees off on guys its actually when he doesnt get his best stoppages. froch, cox, smith, i think happened when he coutnered.

Agree with this, if he’s clubbing you and you see it coming it’s not putting you down, but it will break you down slowly. Murray, chudinov, the poor lad who was hospitalised...

If he lands the quick counters and you’re not ready it’s lights out

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He's the only fighter I've seen hurt Froch, much less drop him. That says it all.

[Counter-puncher]

He's the only fighter I've seen hurt Froch, much less drop him. That says it all.

It should do.

Seems to me the guys Groves has taken longer to stop, or have gone the distance, are tight-guard dudes who don't let their hands go much, Jack and Murray and Gutnecht come to mind anyway.

And what he did to Paul Smith?

[gilgamesh]

He's the only fighter I've seen hurt Froch, much less drop him. That says it all.

Jermain Taylor dropped Froch

[Counter-puncher]

He's the only fighter I've seen hurt Froch, much less drop him. That says it all.

Jermain Taylor dropped Froch

Ah good reminder that one did hurt Froch. Not as badly as Pavlik was hurt by Taylor but definitely a legit KD

[jamamb]

yes although froch more hurt against groves. took several rounds to recover and only time ive seen him look that weary and maybe even gun shy for a few. was like 'oh shit!'

[gilgamesh]

Yeah he was definitely hurt worse against Groves.

[Counter-puncher]

yes although froch more hurt against groves. took several rounds to recover and only time ive seen him look that weary and maybe even gun shy for a few. was like 'oh poo!'

Indeed. Groves hits hard enough to have an ATG chin on rubber legs for about 4 rounds

[Counter-puncher]

groves isnt a massive hitter imo. but definitely good power. prob among hardest hitting counter punchers today. i think a lot with him is that he also has speed and catches you with shots you dont brace for. when he just tees off on guys its actually when he doesnt get his best stoppages. froch, cox, smith, i think happened when he coutnered.

I think you're right there

[lillywhite14]

Kalan clearly mistaken Cleverly for Groves.

Tall and carries no power?

[Counter-puncher]

Kalan clearly mistaken Cleverly for Groves.

Tall and carries no power?

i wouldn't be so sure mate, this is the guy who says Hagler couldn't box and Sugar Ray Robinson was a brawler.