Luis Ortiz Suspended By WBA, No Longer Mandatory To Joshua
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Luis Ortiz Suspended By WBA, No Longer Mandatory To Joshua
BS.com has received confirmation that Cuban heavyweight Luis Ortiz has been suspended by the World Boxing Association - in connection to his failed drug test for a scheduled fight with WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder.
Attorney Michael McAleenan of Smith Alling, on behalf of the WBA, issued a letter to Ortiz and his handlers - advised them that Ortiz was under suspension, removed from the rankings and stripped of his mandatory position. Ortiz is facing no less than a six month suspension.
Mendoza confirms that a clean B-sample is the only way Ortiz can clear himself in this predicament.
In past situations, there has rarely been a B-sample that generated a different result to the A-sample.
This is the second time that Ortiz has been in trouble with the WBA. The Cuban southpaw tested positive for Nandrolone, an anabolic steroid, following a first-round knockout of Lateef Kayode in September 2014. The victory gave him the WBA's interim-title. He later stripped of the belt and suspended for several months for the failed test.
Attorney Michael McAleenan of Smith Alling, on behalf of the WBA, issued a letter to Ortiz and his handlers - advised them that Ortiz was under suspension, removed from the rankings and stripped of his mandatory position. Ortiz is facing no less than a six month suspension.
Mendoza confirms that a clean B-sample is the only way Ortiz can clear himself in this predicament.
In past situations, there has rarely been a B-sample that generated a different result to the A-sample.
This is the second time that Ortiz has been in trouble with the WBA. The Cuban southpaw tested positive for Nandrolone, an anabolic steroid, following a first-round knockout of Lateef Kayode in September 2014. The victory gave him the WBA's interim-title. He later stripped of the belt and suspended for several months for the failed test.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Luis Ortiz Suspended By WBA, No Longer Mandatory To Joshua
In other news the sun is hot.
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ortiz is one of these guys its getting boring to hear about. send him off to a far away island with fury. they can be fat and lazy together.
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I guess asd is right after all.
A bilingual lawyer is no help if the needle is in his ass. The lawyer is only helpful to translate text and tell him to list his medications.
A bilingual lawyer is no help if the needle is in his ass. The lawyer is only helpful to translate text and tell him to list his medications.
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Boxing Prospect
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Re: Luis Ortiz Suspended By WBA, No Longer Mandatory To Joshua
...and the WBC still haven't made a call on Luis Nery...
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So does this make Ustinov AJ's mandatory next year?

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And leave even less world level heavyweights for everyone else to fight.jamamb wrote:ortiz is one of these guys its getting boring to hear about. send him off to a far away island with fury. they can be fat and lazy together.
Without them the division is far worse.
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they've already left them though mate. were going into 2018 and both their highlight wins were in 2015.
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You talk about Fury as if he isn't already gone.Horse wrote:And leave even less world level heavyweights for everyone else to fight.jamamb wrote:ortiz is one of these guys its getting boring to hear about. send him off to a far away island with fury. they can be fat and lazy together.
Without them the division is far worse.
Luis Ortiz's potential of becoming a relevant boxer went out the window with his failed test.
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asdfjkl
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This is so sad, the guy had medicines in his body for years, on doctors discription actually, that could theoretically mask some doping. He didn't even have doping in his body. This while guys like Wilder and Stiverne both have been busted with all kind of doping, despite their personal lab. But that's no problem ofcourse.
Let it be a warning for all boxers, don't get involved with Wilder or his team, or his friends, it's one bunch of corrupt criminals that destroy and ruin your reputation if you're any good.
Let it be a warning for all boxers, don't get involved with Wilder or his team, or his friends, it's one bunch of corrupt criminals that destroy and ruin your reputation if you're any good.
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They are both relevant fighters.gilgamesh wrote:You talk about Fury as if he isn't already gone.
Luis Ortiz's potential of becoming a relevant boxer went out the window with his failed test.
You might not like them, but they are both clearly top 10 opponents for anyone in the division.
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Fury could be if he'd get his act together.Horse wrote:They are both relevant fighters.gilgamesh wrote:You talk about Fury as if he isn't already gone.
Luis Ortiz's potential of becoming a relevant boxer went out the window with his failed test.
You might not like them, but they are both clearly top 10 opponents for anyone in the division.
I don't know that any big name fighter would waste their time with Ortiz anymore. There's no reason to believe that he'd go through with the fight without popping hot.
I DID like Luis Ortiz until just a few weeks ago when he pissed dirty, and screwed us all out of one of the most significant Heavyweight fights of the year, and the most significant fight of Wilder's career. He's already very near 40 or possibly over 40, and with the suspension that is likely to come with the failed drug test, and the fact that he'd already been looking a little more mediocre in recent years there's no real reason to expect he's ever gonna do anything particularly noteworthy in Boxing anymore.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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It really is sad, how dumb you are.asdfjkl wrote:This is so sad, the guy had medicines in his body for years, on doctors discription actually, that could theoretically mask some doping. He didn't even have doping in his body. This while guys like Wilder and Stiverne both have been busted with all kind of doping, despite their personal lab. But that's no problem ofcourse.
Let it be a warning for all boxers, don't get involved with Wilder or his team, or his friends, it's one bunch of corrupt criminals that destroy and ruin your reputation if you're any good.
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You mad, eh?asdfjkl wrote:This is so sad, the guy had medicines in his body for years, on doctors discription actually, that could theoretically mask some doping. He didn't even have doping in his body. This while guys like Wilder and Stiverne both have been busted with all kind of doping, despite their personal lab. But that's no problem ofcourse.
Let it be a warning for all boxers, don't get involved with Wilder or his team, or his friends, it's one bunch of corrupt criminals that destroy and ruin your reputation if you're any good.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Unless Manuel Charr beats him..KiwiRider wrote:So does this make Ustinov AJ's mandatory next year?
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tiny_acres
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Chart and Ustinov are fighting for vacant wbaRuthless-RKO wrote:Unless Manuel Charr beats him..KiwiRider wrote:So does this make Ustinov AJ's mandatory next year?
Regular title. That alone takes him out as wbc mandatory
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Ah, OK cheers Ruth. Oh boy.Ruthless-RKO wrote:Unless Manuel Charr beats him..KiwiRider wrote:So does this make Ustinov AJ's mandatory next year?
If someone starts a poll of "Who wins- AJ or Charr/Ustinov I'm gonna stab something
If that puts either out of WBO mandatory, then Povitkin must be in the mix, now that would be more interesting
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It's over for Ruiz. He was already high risk with little reward.Horse wrote:They are both relevant fighters.gilgamesh wrote:You talk about Fury as if he isn't already gone.
Luis Ortiz's potential of becoming a relevant boxer went out the window with his failed test.
You might not like them, but they are both clearly top 10 opponents for anyone in the division.
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jamesmcdonnell
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Ffs. Autocorrect. Ortiz.jamesmcdonnell wrote:It's over for Ruiz. He was already high risk with little reward.Horse wrote:They are both relevant fighters.gilgamesh wrote:You talk about Fury as if he isn't already gone.
Luis Ortiz's potential of becoming a relevant boxer went out the window with his failed test.
You might not like them, but they are both clearly top 10 opponents for anyone in the division.
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asdfjkl
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A bit yes, I see more and more that boxinng isn't about boxing, but much much more about politics and paperwork. The better you are without being that popular, the harder they ignore and destroy you for false reasons.Impractical Poster wrote:You mad, eh?asdfjkl wrote:This is so sad, the guy had medicines in his body for years, on doctors discription actually, that could theoretically mask some doping. He didn't even have doping in his body. This while guys like Wilder and Stiverne both have been busted with all kind of doping, despite their personal lab. But that's no problem ofcourse.
Let it be a warning for all boxers, don't get involved with Wilder or his team, or his friends, it's one bunch of corrupt criminals that destroy and ruin your reputation if you're any good.
Meanwhile Stiverne recently got smashed up in 4 rounds in a sparringssession against an amateur, despite all his dopingscandels and inactivity. But he get's a world titleshot from the WBC :s.
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In what way?Horse wrote:And leave even less world level heavyweights for everyone else to fight.jamamb wrote:ortiz is one of these guys its getting boring to hear about. send him off to a far away island with fury. they can be fat and lazy together.
Without them the division is far worse.
Fury hasn't fought in 2 years, so the division is already effectively without him & Ortiz is always in hot water over drug tests, so any time he fights, there will always be raised eyebrows.
The HW division is/will be fine without either of them.
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lillywhite14
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Although Ortiz has looked crap lately and is deserving of a ban, its still a little depressing that Joshua’s mandatory challengers have gone from Pulev and Ortiz to Takam and Ustinov!
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I've little problem with Pulev being switched to Takam who might well be more "up for it" than Pulev even without an injury, but Ustinov instead of Ortiz, now that really is depressing.
Take the Stiverne life-time mandatory status out of the equation and the WBA almost succeed in making the WBC look respectable ... almost.
Alexander Ustinov FFS ... A man who only this year managed to stop the mighty Raphael Zumbano Love and whose last meaningful win was against David Tua by decision in 2013. For all the threat he will offer to AJ, they as well have nominated PETER Ustinov
Take the Stiverne life-time mandatory status out of the equation and the WBA almost succeed in making the WBC look respectable ... almost.
Alexander Ustinov FFS ... A man who only this year managed to stop the mighty Raphael Zumbano Love and whose last meaningful win was against David Tua by decision in 2013. For all the threat he will offer to AJ, they as well have nominated PETER Ustinov
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Luis Ortiz did not disclose any health condition or medicine that he was prescribed when he completed the VADA/WBC questionnaire and nor did he request an exemption for the drugs he was taking.asdfjkl wrote:This is so sad, the guy had medicines in his body for years, on doctors discription actually, that could theoretically mask some doping. He didn't even have doping in his body. This while guys like Wilder and Stiverne both have been busted with all kind of doping, despite their personal lab. But that's no problem ofcourse.
Let it be a warning for all boxers, don't get involved with Wilder or his team, or his friends, it's one bunch of corrupt criminals that destroy and ruin your reputation if you're any good.
The Cuban's actions clearly speak louder than his words. Celan athletes don't have anything to hide.
Coincidentally, do you feel that he was taking steroids to treat a medical condition the previous time he tested positive for banned substances?
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If you go to Mexico, Cuba, name such countries, there's a chance that he locally sold beef contains stuff that's now allowed to be in in other countries. It's very common to use aspirines in America, which makes your your blood flow better. It's very common in America to drink a cup of coffee, which makes you more awake, alert and agressive, just like sigarettes.Enlightened-One wrote:Luis Ortiz did not disclose any health condition or medicine that he was prescribed when he completed the VADA/WBC questionnaire and nor did he request an exemption for the drugs he was taking.asdfjkl wrote:This is so sad, the guy had medicines in his body for years, on doctors discription actually, that could theoretically mask some doping. He didn't even have doping in his body. This while guys like Wilder and Stiverne both have been busted with all kind of doping, despite their personal lab. But that's no problem ofcourse.
Let it be a warning for all boxers, don't get involved with Wilder or his team, or his friends, it's one bunch of corrupt criminals that destroy and ruin your reputation if you're any good.
The Cuban's actions clearly speak louder than his words. Celan athletes don't have anything to hide.
Coincidentally, do you feel that he was taking steroids to treat a medical condition the previous time he tested positive for banned substances?
Somehow all the American tricks are no problem, but remarkebly, all the American stuff is suddenly allowed. On top of that, Stiverne turned out to be a drugsuser who only got caught after he got busted life in the act of taking it by a dopingtester. That's the only reason the lab suddenly admitted he took it. That same lab still hasn't admitted that Wilder took all kind of illegal substances, despite even his car contained drugs. Remarkebly, Wilder didn't sign anything as long as the lab was suspended?! He could have fought Stiverne in may/june?! And then the Parker story, we don't hear anything about it any more, Parker is availeble right now isn't he? Why would you challenge him when you know he's busy and ignore him as soon as he's free? Why did Wilder acted like he wanted to fight Ortiz for 2,5 mil, while he ducked much more easy fight against Whyte which would give him 5 mil and, if he doesn't lose, a shot against AJ which he actually wanted?! Oh wait, ofcourse, because he knew very well that Ortiz took his medicins which would help him to sneak out of the fight? Why did Stiverne all of a sudden have no problem to fight someone he would badly lose against called Breazeale? Oh wait, because he also knew, from his friend called Wilder, that this fight would never happen! Why does Wilder not complain that his friend Stiverne got busted with doping? And avoided another test when his personal lab was suspended after it? Oh wait, because it's a done deal already! All part of their script!
Ortiz even showed a picture of his medicines with his name labeled on it?!
Ortiz got VADA tested for years without problems and now all of a sudden they gave him a paper in several foreign languages and told him to sign it and he got suspended?!
Really? And now Wilder is the victim? Why doesn't Wilder get tested in Russia? Why not in the UK? Why not in Australia? Why not in Brazil? China? Name it, no, he got his personal lab :S and doesn't even get tested at all when his lab is suspended?! Despite an independant police officer found drugs in his car?
Yea sorry mate but I genuinly can't take these bullshitstories serious any more.