GGG's trainer about Jermall Charlo:"He knocked out a cripple[Heiland]. Sanchez is right!

[apollo creed]

“I think that Golovkin’s next fight is Canelo.” “After that rematch with Canelo, who knows?” said the trainer. “It’s a matter of sitting down with the whole team and trying to line up a path that’s best for Gennady. Nothing is written in stone and you just mentioned [David] Lemieux should he win [with Billy Joe Saunders] and that’s another name that could happen next year. Depending on how the whole negotiations go with Tom Loefller and Golden Boy who handles Canelo, then we can map out 2018.”

“He knocked out a cripple, Sanchez said of Charlo stopping Heiland. “I think he has to earn he right to fight Golovkin. Just like a guy like Keith Thurman is telling Spence he has to wait to fight because he’s not known. I think these guys have to earn a shot to fight someone like Golovkin or Canelo. Reason they want to fight Golovkin or Canelo is because they want to cash out.”

“They want a big purse. Golovkin was number 1 rated for Felix Sturm for two years and then Martinez. Then we were mandatory for Cotto and even for Canelo it took a while. You have to make sure the people want the fight. Can you imagine what Charlo would do in sales? He wouldn’t sell nothing. I think we like to make title fights but obviously you have to earn them and he hasn’t earned it.”

I agree with Abel. Golovkin worked very hard to build up his name and get his dream fight/s with Canelo. Look at his resume, Geale, Macklin, Rubio, Murray, Lemieux and Jacobs before he got Canelo. Jermall should fight someone like Jacobs or BJS-Lemieux winner and beat them to get a shot at GGG-Canelo winner because I don't see GGG or Canelo fighting him soon regardless of what WBC would order.

[apollo creed]

Also good fights for Jermall would be : Lee, Murata-N'dam winner and Korobov. Anyway, I think Jermall would fight with Jacobs for the vacant WBC title, which would be great IMO.

[Lackeos]

Charlo has to earn the right to fight Golovkin. Note: this only applies to killers like Charlo who have already earned the right. Golovkin gives out title shots like candy to mediocre gatekeepers like Dominick Wade, Willie Monroe, Osumanu Adama, and Marco Rubio who don't pose a threat.

[apollo creed]

The Charlo brothers are a talent, their promoters are keeping them from Danny Jacobs and Golovkin until they have aged and are family men. This is what many promoters do, you best believe if one Charlo brother got in their with a hungry Danny Jacobs, they'd get a decision loss on their record. One on one, still tremendous athletes with the world ahead of the future. They both have a gifted decision on their records. They's Al Haymon's golden geese. LMAO just playing, they show all around good character. CBS, NBC, ESPN.. bringing people out of self hate with boxing. Uniting the crowd.

Indeed both are talented but I don't like to see that talent wasted by staying safe and cherrypicking.

[apollo creed]

Charlo has to earn the right to fight Golovkin. Note: this only applies to killers like Charlo who have already earned the right. Golovkin gives out title shots like candy to mediocre gatekeepers like Dominick Wade, Willie Monroe, Osumanu Adama, and Marco Rubio who don't pose a threat.

I think Golovkin had to fight these guys to keep his titles But what about the fights he had against Geale, Macklin, Murray, Stevens, Lemieux and Jacobs before he got a shot to Canelo ??

Golovkin had a tough road till he got Canelo. Champions like Sturm, Martinez, Quillin and Cotto avoided him like plague! Why Jermall shouldn't fight Jacobs ? I'd like this fight to happen.

[boxing_rocks]

Sanchez is absolutely right. After not so impressive activity at 154, Jermall had only one fight at 160, and it was against a cripple.

Jermell is currently doing better. He stopped Lubin and called out Hurd and Lara.

[Lackeos]

I think Golovkin had to fight these guys to keep his titles But what about the fights he had against Geale, Macklin, Murray, Stevens, Lemieux and Jacobs before he got a shot to Canelo ??

Most of those guys had done a lot less than Charlo has, i.e. beating Trout and smoking Bundrage and J Rock. Charlo has basically already beat 3 opponents on the Geale / Lemieux / Stevens caliber. I think if he actually beat Macklin, Murray, Stevens, and Geale himself, we'd still be in the same spot. Golovkin's bodyguards would still be saying "Charlo hasn't done much more than Lemieux. So he still has to do quite a lot more before he gets a shot at Golovkin."

[boxing_rocks]

Golovkin's bodyguards

What the f*ck are you smoking?

[gilgamesh]

Heiland was definitely a mostly one legged man in an ass kicking contest against Charlo. That didn't help him any. Doesn't detract from the kinda talent Charlo is though. He can't help it that his opponent chose to fight with an injury that hindered him. He did his job.

Highly doubtful that Charlo will be so lucky against better opponents.

A guy like Heiland went ahead, and went through with the fight in spite of the injury because he just couldn't pass on the money.

[lefty]

The Charlo brothers are a talent, their promoters are keeping them from Danny Jacobs and Golovkin until they have aged and are family men. This is what many promoters do, you best believe if one Charlo brother got in their with a hungry Danny Jacobs, they'd get a decision loss on their record. One on one, still tremendous athletes with the world ahead of the future. They both have a gifted decision on their records. They's Al Haymon's golden geese. LMAO just playing, they show all around good character. CBS, NBC, ESPN.. bringing people out of self hate with boxing. Uniting the crowd.

Family men

[apollo creed]

I think Golovkin had to fight these guys to keep his titles But what about the fights he had against Geale, Macklin, Murray, Stevens, Lemieux and Jacobs before he got a shot to Canelo ??

Most of those guys had done a lot less than Charlo has, i.e. beating Trout and smoking Bundrage and J Rock. Charlo has basically already beat 3 opponents on the Geale / Lemieux / Stevens caliber. I think if he actually beat Macklin, Murray, Stevens, and Geale himself, we'd still be in the same spot. Golovkin's bodyguards would still be saying "Charlo hasn't done much more than Lemieux. So he still has to do quite a lot more before he gets a shot at Golovkin."

The version of Kasim Oouma that GGG fought would blast out Trout, Bundrage, J-Rock and Heiland. BTW , Jermall vs Trout was a close fight.

[apollo creed]

Sanchez is absolutely right. After not so impressive activity at 154, Jermall had only one fight at 160, and it was against a cripple.

Jermell is currently doing better. He stopped Lubin and called out Hurd and Lara.

Jermall and Jacobs should fight each other. The winner is a bad man at 160 lbs!

[gilgamesh]

I think Golovkin had to fight these guys to keep his titles But what about the fights he had against Geale, Macklin, Murray, Stevens, Lemieux and Jacobs before he got a shot to Canelo ??

Most of those guys had done a lot less than Charlo has, i.e. beating Trout and smoking Bundrage and J Rock. Charlo has basically already beat 3 opponents on the Geale / Lemieux / Stevens caliber. I think if he actually beat Macklin, Murray, Stevens, and Geale himself, we'd still be in the same spot. Golovkin's bodyguards would still be saying "Charlo hasn't done much more than Lemieux. So he still has to do quite a lot more before he gets a shot at Golovkin."

The version of Kasim Oouma that GGG fought would blast out Trout, Bundrage, J-Rock and Heiland. BTW , Jermall vs Trout was a close fight.

Ouma was about 5 years past his best when he fought GGG. He MAYBE would've been able to beat Bundrage, but I doubt he beats the best.

And "Blast Out" ain't something that ever applied to Kassim Ouma. He was a volume puncher, and didn't have much power. Showed a hell of a chin most of the time though.

[apollo creed]

Heiland was definitely a mostly one legged man in an ass kicking contest against Charlo. That didn't help him any. Doesn't detract from the kinda talent Charlo is though. He can't help it that his opponent chose to fight with an injury that hindered him. He did his job.

Highly doubtful that Charlo will be so lucky against better opponents.

A guy like Heiland went ahead, and went through with the fight in spite of the injury because he just couldn't pass on the money.

Most probably Jermall would fight for the vacant WBC title because I don't think Canelo or GGG would give a damn about the what wbc want. The question is would wbc order Jermall and Jacobs fight each other for the wbc vacant title ??

[apollo creed]

Most of those guys had done a lot less than Charlo has, i.e. beating Trout and smoking Bundrage and J Rock. Charlo has basically already beat 3 opponents on the Geale / Lemieux / Stevens caliber. I think if he actually beat Macklin, Murray, Stevens, and Geale himself, we'd still be in the same spot. Golovkin's bodyguards would still be saying "Charlo hasn't done much more than Lemieux. So he still has to do quite a lot more before he gets a shot at Golovkin."

The version of Kasim Oouma that GGG fought would blast out Trout, Bundrage, J-Rock and Heiland. BTW , Jermall vs Trout was a close fight.

Ouma was about 5 years past his best when he fought GGG. He MAYBE would've been able to beat Bundrage, but I doubt he beats the best.

And "Blast Out" ain't something that ever applied to Kassim Ouma. He was a volume puncher, and didn't have much power. Showed a hell of a chin most of the time though.

Ouma did well vs Golovkin at that time and I think he would stop the same guys Jermall fought.

[gilgamesh]

Heiland was definitely a mostly one legged man in an ass kicking contest against Charlo. That didn't help him any. Doesn't detract from the kinda talent Charlo is though. He can't help it that his opponent chose to fight with an injury that hindered him. He did his job.

Highly doubtful that Charlo will be so lucky against better opponents.

A guy like Heiland went ahead, and went through with the fight in spite of the injury because he just couldn't pass on the money.

Most probably Jermall would fight for the vacant WBC title because I don't think Canelo or GGG would give a damn about the what wbc want. The question is would wbc order Jermall and Jacobs fight each other for the wbc vacant title ??

Let's hope so. That'd be a solid fight. I doubt GGG will be letting his WBC Title go though.

[gilgamesh]

Ouma was about 5 years past his best when he fought GGG. He MAYBE would've been able to beat Bundrage, but I doubt he beats the best.

And "Blast Out" ain't something that ever applied to Kassim Ouma. He was a volume puncher, and didn't have much power. Showed a hell of a chin most of the time though.

Ouma did well vs Golovkin at that time and I think he would stop the same guys Jermall fought.

Yeah I know he did well then, but GGG was still learning, and Ouma was his toughest Professional opponent at that time. I don't think Ouma would stop hardly any of the guys that Jermall has fight save for maybe the one legged Heiland.

Ouma's just not a puncher. Even if he could beat these guys, I don't see him stopping any of 'em.

And frankly I wouldn't pick Ouma circa 2010 to beat many of 'em either.

[apollo creed]

Heiland was definitely a mostly one legged man in an ass kicking contest against Charlo. That didn't help him any. Doesn't detract from the kinda talent Charlo is though. He can't help it that his opponent chose to fight with an injury that hindered him. He did his job.

Highly doubtful that Charlo will be so lucky against better opponents.

A guy like Heiland went ahead, and went through with the fight in spite of the injury because he just couldn't pass on the money.

Most probably Jermall would fight for the vacant WBC title because I don't think Canelo or GGG would give a damn about the what wbc want. The question is would wbc order Jermall and Jacobs fight each other for the wbc vacant title ??

Let's hope so. That'd be a solid fight. I doubt GGG will be letting his WBC Title go though.

I think Golovkin would lose in the rematch with Canelo and if not Golovkin would try to unify with the wbo champion. WBC would easily allow GGG to unify with the WBO champion, just to take that fat fee.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Charlo is much more proven then ggg was when he first fought for the title. Not only has he earned it, he'll win.

[apollo creed]

Charlo is much more proven then ggg was when he first fought for the title. Not only has he earned it, he'll win.

That mofo didn't do $hit to deserve a shot to Canelo-GGG winner. He would get that trinket for free.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Charlo is much more proven then ggg was when he first fought for the title. Not only has he earned it, he'll win.

That mofo didn't do $hit to deserve a shot to Canelo-GGG winner. He would get that trinket for free.

Then GGG did less than shit. Beltholders moving up in weight have always been granted status in the new division, as they should.

[boxing_rocks]

Charlo is much more proven then ggg was when he first fought for the title. Not only has he earned it, he'll win.

That mofo didn't do $hit to deserve a shot to Canelo-GGG winner. He would get that trinket for free.

Then GGG did less than poo. Beltholders moving up in weight have always been granted status in the new division, as they should.

Correct, Universum did a very poor job for Golovkin. Haymon does a poor job for Jermall.

The situation is different too. Golovkin fought for a vacant belt. There is none available for Charlo at this time.

[Blodhemn]

Should just make it so the Charlo hype gets derailed. He isn't beating GGG, and I'm not even sure GGG will beat Canelo on the cards next time. So it's somewhat pointless for now, and instead of waiting around for a title shot, Charlo needs to get busy, but we know that isn't happening.

[Badhusker]

Hearn is not interested in Jacobs vs Charlo, which is the logical fight to happen next. Maybe Charlo will fight Andrade, who is calling him out. Typical Hearn, wanting to milk good fighters as long as possible.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/09/hea ... ll-charlo/

[Lackeos]

The version of Kasim Oouma that GGG fought would blast out Trout, Bundrage, J-Rock and Heiland.

Well, that's quite obviously wrong. Hard to believe you have the gall to say something that idiotic. But then again, maybe you're being facetious, and I just can't tell because it's over the internet. We're talking about Ouma, who lost to Bundrage, and then kept getting worse from there. At the time that Golovkin fought Ouma, Ouma was like the #21 middleweight, meanwhile Bundrage, Trout, and J Rock were all rated top 10 in their division. Ouma is 4-8 in his last 12 fights.