Mike Tyson v Andrew Golota

[Mimmy]

What was the reason for Golota quitting against Tyson in the second round of their fight? Also why was it declared a no contest?

[Caractacus]

I think other then the obvious reason (High Anxiety) that he had going on into his most important fights.
Golata had a cheekbone fractured in sparring going into the Tyson fight.
that could have been a reason he quit in it.
I think it was declared a "no-contest" because Tyson failed drug test afterwards (Marigiuna)

[Kalan]

Michael Grant lost to Dominic Guinn, Lennox Lewis, Jameel McCline, Tomasz Adamek and every time he stepped up.. But Golota still couldn't beat him.. There was no good reason for Golota to quit versus Grant.. The fight was close and competitive.. It was a good match-up between 2 slow and unskilled Heavyweights.. My card was close like Chuck Hassett's, but 2 judges had Golota winning by a good margin.. If he could finish the 10th, 11th, and 12th he probably wins it.

The huge and powerful Grant was coming on strongly in the 10th.. Grant scored a knockdown and Golota lost heart.. He wasn't badly hurt but he quit.

But versus Tyson he couldn't stop the incoming... He was getting ripped almost as badly as in the Lewis and Brewster fights... Golota was badly over-matched for his skill level.. He had 2 broken vertebra in his neck and a shattered cheek.. He knew he was badly hurt and he refused to continue.

Ordinarily if a guy says he's hurt you listen and stop it -- cuz Injuries are NOT always apparent.. In this case Golota had a history and his corner went nuts.. They behaved irresponsibly, but some of the blame lies with Golota's previous behavior.. It was declared a no contest because Tyson tested positive for PEDs.

[Tony1244]

Golota quit because he doesn't like to be hit.

[gilgamesh]

What was the reason for Golota quitting against Tyson in the second round of their fight? Also why was it declared a no contest?

Tyson tested positive for Marijuana is what caused it to be a No Contest.

[Tony1244]

What was the reason for Golota quitting against Tyson in the second round of their fight? Also why was it declared a no contest?

Tyson tested positive for Marijuana is what caused it to be a No Contest.

Tyson got cheated out of 2 wins. Golota and Buster Mathis Jr.

[Kalan]

What was the reason for Golota quitting against Tyson in the second round of their fight? Also why was it declared a no contest?

Tyson tested positive for Marijuana is what caused it to be a No Contest.

which is considered a PED -- a masking agent for pain... After few hits you may not be feeling any---which may improve your performance.

Which I don't believe.. There's a lot of stuff on the banned list a lot of folks don't think should be -- such as Meldonium which was fine for 35 years. You buy Meldonium over-the-counter like Bayer Aspirin.. which also enhances your blood flow.. I wonder when aspirin get on the list because everything else is.

[gilgamesh]

What was the reason for Golota quitting against Tyson in the second round of their fight? Also why was it declared a no contest?

Tyson tested positive for Marijuana is what caused it to be a No Contest.

which is considered a PED -- a masking agent for pain... After few hits you may not be feeling any---which may improve your performance.

Which I don't believe.. There's a lot of stuff on the banned list a lot of folks don't think should be -- such as Meldonium which was fine for 35 years.

I don't think it should be on the banned substance list either. I'm with you on that. Not sure about Meldonium as I don't know the effects of it, but I certainly wouldn't consider Pot a performance enhancer.

[Kalan]

The problem I have is that so many of these experts agreed that Meldonium was fine for so many years... But then a few people started lobbying against it because it's a popular product of Latvia, a Eastern European country... I'm sure if Abbott Labs made it, it would still be fine.

[gregor]

What was the reason for Golota quitting against Tyson in the second round of their fight?

AFAIR Golota explanation is that Tyson was headbutting him, and especially his left cheekbone which turned out to be fractured, so he was both afraid of his health and angry at the referee not taking any actions.

If it does not make perfect sense to you... well, just take into account it is Golota after all, and only he knows if this was the real reason for quitting or just an excuse

[klompton]

I think other then the obvious reason (High Anxiety) that he had going on into his most important fights.
Golata had a cheekbone fractured in sparring going into the Tyson fight.
that could have been a reason he quit in it.
I think it was declared a "no-contest" because Tyson failed drug test afterwards (Marigiuna)

Posting more bullshit I see. Golota did not have a cheekbone fracture going into the fight. Tyson fractured the cheekbone. Golota tried to say it was a headbutt but it was obviously a punch as you can see it begin to swell immediately after Tyson lands. But nice try moron.

[Kalan]

Golota quit because he doesn't like to be hit.

Does anybody??? ... You're never going to take up Boxing as a sport and later a profession if you're too adverse to getting hit... Nobody likes to get killed or badly injured.. You'll quit a boxing match if you believe that's about to occur.. For this particular fight there was good reason to believe that.

[Tony1244]

Golota quit because he doesn't like to be hit.

Does anybody??? ... You're never going to take up Boxing as a sport and later a profession if you're too adverse to getting hit... Nobody likes to get killed or badly injured.. You'll quit a boxing match if you believe that's about to occur.. For this particular fight there was good reason to believe that.

Ali actually seemed to like to get hit.

Of course, it's a matter of degree but I've seen some pros that really hate it. Wlad, Mark Breland, and Golota come immediately to mind.

[SenorPipino]

I recall Golota whining in his corner big time after the 1st round. He wanted out of the fight then and there.

Golota was a real head case. He could dish it out but had absolutely no ticker.

Remember how he survived Samson Po'uha by biting him after being seriously hurt?

[Kalan]

Golota quit because he doesn't like to be hit.

Does anybody??? ... You're never going to take up Boxing as a sport and later a profession if you're too adverse to getting hit... Nobody likes to get killed or badly injured.. You'll quit a boxing match if you believe that's about to occur.. For this particular fight there was good reason to believe that.

Ali actually seemed to like to get hit.

Of course, it's a matter of degree but I've seen some pros that really hate it. Wlad, Mark Breland, and Golota come immediately to mind.

EVERYONE hates to get hit including Ali.. If you're in a real tough fight and sneeze the the next day you may feel like your head's going to explode.. Everybody always knew from the number of punch drunk and damaged fighters around that getting hit was not doing anybody any good.. It's your job and it's a risk you have to take -- but if you're over-matched like Golota often was, and don't have a decent chance to win, you want out of there.. He had to feel like the chump of the year getting battered by Tyson when his corner wanted him to go out there and get finished off.

Wladimir probably had a greater hatred of getting hit than most... He was knocked out 3 times and had to wonder what that might eventually do to him.. That's why he changed coaches and worked his ass off to improve his defense.. If Golota hated getting hit that much he would have worked a lot harder on his defense and changed coaches.. Aside from the physical and mental damage boxers incur from getting blasted -- they're looking like an incompetent when they're taking a lot of punishment.. People like to be admired and respected, and you're pitied if you're a freakin' punching bag getting hammered.. Even if you're Ali.

[Tony1244]

Try telling all that to Oliver McCall, who even when he cracked up in the ring wasn't afraid of Lewis, he just kept telling Mills Lane, he did want to fight, then he didn't want to fight, then he did, then he didn't.

I may be in the minority but I didn't see a reason to stop that fight. No rule against crying.

I've seen fighters do as little as McCall w/o crying.

[Seamus]

Ironically, I think Lou Duva damaged Golota's confidence before the Lewis fight, by making him think too much about what he shouldn't do in the ring. He was a headcase before and after that bout, but before Lewis he was a headcase who believed in himself. He took some wicked shots against Po'uha and Bowe and didn't quit, but later on he just fell apart psychologically. He was on a crazy roller coaster ride that was just too dizzying. First he's a promising Olympian, then he's a wanted man in his own country, then he just want's to be a truck driver in the USA, then he has Poles all over the world telling him he's going to be the greatest heavyweight of alltime, and then some of those same people are telling him to blow his brains out and that he quit because he's really a faggot. For all the craziness in the Andrew Golota story, including the time his wife was out of town and he picked up a couple of black hookers and brought them home and started showing them every gun he had except the one they expected to see, he still deserved a HW belt or two, because I believe he deserved the decisions against Byrd and Ruiz, when he was just a shell of his former self. Yep, this guy needs a bio.

[Tony1244]

Ironically, I think Lou Duva damaged Golota's confidence before the Lewis fight, by making him think too much about what he shouldn't do in the ring. He was a headcase before and after that bout, but before Lewis he was a headcase who believed in himself. He took some wicked shots against Po'uha and Bowe and didn't quit, but later on he just fell apart psychologically. He was on a crazy roller coaster ride that was just too dizzying. First he's a promising Olympian, then he's a wanted man in his own country, then he just want's to be a truck driver in the USA, then he has Poles all over the world telling him he's going to be the greatest heavyweight of alltime, and then some of those same people are telling him to blow his brains out and that he quit because he's really a faggot. For all the craziness in the Andrew Golota story, including the time his wife was out of town and he picked up a couple of black hookers and brought them home and started showing them every gun he had except the one they expected to see, he still deserved a HW belt or two, because I believe he deserved the decisions against Byrd and Ruiz, when he was just a shell of his former self. Yep, this guy needs a bio.

I had the privilege of watching Golota train with Duva in West Palm. There was a heavy bag with tape around it to train Andrew not to hit low. From what I saw Golota trained seriously and consistently.

But when I wished Duva good luck against Lewis, Duva said something to the effect of "Yeah, we'll need it."

[Kalan]

"We'll need it" ... Yeah no kidding!!! That was a mismatch... That's like wishing Floyd Patterson good luck before he went out to face Sonny Liston.

[Ruthless-RKO]

What was the reason for Golota quitting against Tyson in the second round of their fight? Also why was it declared a no contest?

Have yu watched the fight?

[Mimmy]

What was the reason for Golota quitting against Tyson in the second round of their fight? Also why was it declared a no contest?

Have yu watched the fight?

Yes but as you could not see what was going on in Golotas corner it was difficult to see why he wasnt having none of it in the 2nd round.

[Ambling Alp II]

Always thought he simply quit because he was a head case. Suspicious of the 'injury" he supposedly suffered.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Was Golota ahead on the cards at the time he was DQ'd against Bowe.. both times?

[Mimmy]

Just going off topic for a second. I dont know much about Lou Duva but would he have been a decent Tyson trainer after the Catskill years (Rooney)?

[Kalan]

Always thought he simply quit because he was a head case. Suspicious of the 'injury" he supposedly suffered.

Don't be so cynical... The medical records are there to prove how badly injured he was... Nobody is that adamant on quitting if he's not hurting real bad... He was way overmatched and shouldn't have been in there with any boxer the caliber of Tyson... Look at his fights with Lewis and Brewster.