Povetkin is so overrated

[Marlo Stanfield]

Povetkin is a PED user

And who isn't ?

Wilder and Joshua are not.

lol

[Tony1244]

And who isn't ?

Wilder and Joshua are not.

lol

Reference to a flunked test? Didn't think so.

[Marlo Stanfield]

Wilder and Joshua are not.

lol

Reference to a flunked test? Didn't think so.

You're mad if you genuinely think neither of them have taken PEDs in their life

[Tony1244]

lol

Reference to a flunked test? Didn't think so.

You're mad if you genuinely think neither of them have taken PEDs in their life

Unless you have evidence, you're just guessing. I've found guessing to be counterproductive in all facets of life.

[Marlo Stanfield]

Reference to a flunked test? Didn't think so.

You're mad if you genuinely think neither of them have taken PEDs in their life

Unless you have evidence, you're just guessing. I've found guessing to be counterproductive in all facets of life.

And you're just naive or lack knowledge on HGH if you look at AJs physique and think it's natural

[Tony1244]

Povetkin is a PED user

And who isn't ?

Were the Klitschkos PED users?

[Tony1244]

You're mad if you genuinely think neither of them have taken PEDs in their life

Unless you have evidence, you're just guessing. I've found guessing to be counterproductive in all facets of life.

And you're just naive or lack knowledge on HGH if you look at AJs physique and think it's natural

Some pro wrestlers had that physique in 1960. Were they PED users? Were the Klitschkos PED users?

I thought the argument was that Joshua wasn't a real HW.

[boxing_rocks]

Povetkin is a PED user

And who isn't ?

Were the Klitschkos PED users?

Of course they were.

[jamamb]

Povetkin is a PED user

And who isn't ?

Wilder and Joshua are not.

lol although isnt everyone clean till theyre caught then

my guess is that theres a lot more using than testing positive. not sure bout wilder or aj. povetkin and ortiz dont seem to know how to mask properly! we can at least say theyve used while its speculation for guys who havent failed, but like i said im sure loads of users havent been caught yet.wilder has at least done extensive testing but dont think aj has as a pro.

[Ilya Muromets]

Povetkin's body has a very natural appearance. Wilder's and Joshua's do not, especially Joshua's very rapid increase in muscle size. At any rate the drug testing thing is now totally politicized and run out, of all places, the most corrupt city on the planet, Las Vegas - a city built by OC (Bugsy Siegel and the real godfather, Meyer Lansky) in the desert with the sole purpose of fleecing the suckers, that even bills itself as "Sin City", by a sheister doctor (look up her patient reviews) with, of course, mob ties.

[Tony1244]

And who isn't ?

Were the Klitschkos PED users?

Of course they were.

Not everyone with a physique is a PED user just like every woman with big tits doesn't have fake bOObs.

[jamamb]

i like aj but i think hes probably done something. or maybe he just naturally has a gut while being totally ripped?

[gilgamesh]

do ppl really care that much about povetkin these days? he just seems not very relevant anymore.

Hit the nail on the head. He's neither overrated nor underrated to me at this point. He's just an afterthought.

[gilgamesh]

Povetkin is a PED user

And who isn't ?

Wilder and Joshua are not.

I don't think you can say "They are not" about ANY active Professional athlete with any certainty when it comes to this subject.

[jamamb]

ya, though ironfrost certainly cares about him. i wonder when the next thread will be

[Tony1244]

And who isn't ?

Wilder and Joshua are not.

I don't think you can say "They are not" about ANY active Professional athlete with any certainty when it comes to this subject.

Innocent until proven guilty.

[jamamb]

its quite obvious that someone not being caught doesnt mean they werent using. did marion jones onky become dirty years and years later. even pedvetkin i think didnt actually test positive for any fight he fought until after wilder fiasco. but i think safe to say he fought juiced b4 that.

im sure there are more users than ppl who fail the tests. im sure plenty of guys accused who havent been caught did actually use (jmm or pac anyone). and i think some accused prob havent used.

[gilgamesh]

Innocent until proven guilty.

I'm with ya on that. I'd give them the benefit of the doubt too, but I still wouldn't say with any certainty that they're DEFINITELY not on them, but yeah until they test positive I'd give them the benefit of the doubt as I would any other athlete.

[Tony1244]

Innocent until proven guilty.

I'm with ya on that. I'd give them the benefit of the doubt too, but I still wouldn't say with any certainty that they're DEFINITELY not on them, but yeah until they test positive I'd give them the benefit of the doubt as I would any other athlete.

Hey, I'm a Dylan fan, there is no such thing as definite.

[gilgamesh]

Innocent until proven guilty.

I'm with ya on that. I'd give them the benefit of the doubt too, but I still wouldn't say with any certainty that they're DEFINITELY not on them, but yeah until they test positive I'd give them the benefit of the doubt as I would any other athlete.

Hey, I'm a Dylan fan, there is no such thing as definite.

There's a few definites. Maybe 136 or 142 of them

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Povetkin is a PED user

And who isn't ?

Were the Klitschkos PED users?

Yes

[lefty]

I've never been that high on him. Obviously a great amateur and still a very good pro- that said, the same guy who fought a nip and tuck fight with a blown up cruiserweight in Huck; comes back from being dominated by Klitschko, and he's knocking people out, left, right and centre. Aswell as having cleared roided up traps. It's pretty obvious happened there.

[Ilya Muromets]

And who isn't ?

Wilder and Joshua are not.

I don't think you can say "They are not" about ANY active Professional athlete with any certainty when it comes to this subject.

Don't worry though, Doctor Margaret Goodman and her Las Vegas crew won't look very hard for anything amiss with the in crowd. Las Vegas drug testing is as honest and legit as Las Vegas boxing referees and boxing judges... and other things which I won't go into here, and i see they've already vanished it from their so called news besides. The question i have is why foreign fighters submit to the VADA mafia crew "testing" them. Money i guess.

[Tony1244]

Wilder and Joshua are not.

I don't think you can say "They are not" about ANY active Professional athlete with any certainty when it comes to this subject.

Don't worry though, Doctor Margaret Goodman and her Las Vegas crew won't look very hard for anything amiss with the in crowd. Las Vegas drug testing is as honest and legit as Las Vegas boxing referees and boxing judges... and other things which I won't go into here, and i see they've already vanished it from their so called news besides. The question i have is why foreign fighters submit to the VADA mafia crew "testing" them. Money i guess.

So Goodman is added to the axis of evil with Haymon and Wilder.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I've never been that high on him. Obviously a great amateur and still a very good pro- that said, the same guy who fought a nip and tuck fight with a blown up cruiserweight in Huck; comes back from being dominated by Klitschko, and he's knocking people out, left, right and centre. Aswell as having cleared roided up traps. It's pretty obvious happened there.

Huck boxed his ears off. LOL, no other fight can that be said. I never watched the Wlad fight.