WBC and Haymon conspiring to protect Wilder

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montrealsuper
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WBC and Haymon conspiring to protect Wilder

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WBC have ordered a final eliminator between Dominic Breazeale and Eric Molina to determine Deontay Wilder’s next mandatory challenger, following his certain win tomorrow night against current mandatory challenger Bermane Stiverne.

What is happening is this: The WBC is protecting Wilder via setting him to face more Al Haymon set up patsies. Breazeale is controlled by Haymon and Molina is controlled by Don King, but it looks highly likely that King is a shell promoter serving the Haymon and Wilder agenda. It would not be a surprise at all if King is earning a percentage of Wilder’s purses for playing along with the charade, though this certain type of corruption is difficult to prove, it’s very possible this is the arrangement. Because we all know Wilder is being manufactured into a franchise type fighter with extremely careful protection from Haymon who is desperate to build a money making star now that his PBC empire has crashed and failed to develop any money making stars. Molina has done nothing to deserve to be rewarded with a WBC eliminator payday except that he’s controlled by Haymon via King and Haymon needs an inventory of patsies to aid Wilder and block other more worthy contenders.

This latest WBC Eliminator set up makes little sense because final eliminators are supposed to be matching contenders ranked 1 and 2 or the highest available contenders. Not contenders ranked 6 against 12. Breazeale is ranked #6, Molina is #12. Andy Ruiz, ranked #4 is available for a fight but he is controlled by Top Rank. Al Haymon can’t afford to potentially risk Haymon against a Bob Arum/Top Rank heavyweight because Haymon can’t manipulate Ruiz to throw the fight or take a dive.

Dillian Whyte is also higher ranked in the WBC than Brezeale and should be involved in this newly-announced WBC eliminator. Whyte should be the next mandatory challenger for Wilder after Stiverne, as he currently holds the WBC Silver title and two other silly WBC titles and is due to be ranked No. 1 after Saturday night. But Haymon does not want Wilder to fight Whyte. Why? Most likely because he can’t rig Whyte to tank or dive for Wilder. So now the WBC is conspiring to screw Whyte to protect Wilder. Dillian Whyte and his promoter Eddie Hearn need to take legal action ASAP.

Are you starting to understand how Al Haymon and Deontay Wilder operate? By now you should be awakening to this conspiracy circus of absurdity.

And it’s reached the point that there needs to be an investigation – an independent investigation into this highly suspicious and potentially flagrantly corrupt activity involving Haymon, Wilder, King, and the WBC.
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Never thought of it this way. Now in fully awakened mode. Thanks.
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Have you been hired as infowars's sports correspondent yet?
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Boxing is only major sport that operates in this self regulated way.

One solution might involve more tournaments like the super six but only if they are on a knockout basis. The problem of course is that a defeat in boxing is unlike a defeat in tennis, football, or even motor racing. A close analogy might be chess where a critical defeat can do serious damage to your ego, self confidence and future career.

However in boxing you can get / will get seriously damaged physically. You can even be killed. Therefore we can understand promoters protecting their fighters and trying to maximise their prize money with the least risk involved. Floyd Mayweather has virtually written the book on this. The real 'crime' is when people believe they are paying to watch a genuine sporting contest.

Most of us fans won't pay for Mayweather v McGregor or Wilder v Stiverne ll but as long as there are those that do..

We all love this sport but let's never forget that its a business first and foremost. It needs to be because the stakes are too high, and the fighters pay too high a price.

Some people will pay good money to watch Bob Dylan whilst others pay good money to listen to Adelle. Its horses for courses and the link to entertainment is equally tenuous. Once again, its a business.

The good thing here is that Deontay Wilder knows that the big money fight is AJ. I think we will get that fight, the one that will restore heavyweight boxing to its pomp, and I don't mind waiting.
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If you followed the way the WBC operates they typically have elimination fights before naming a mandatory. In some cases they have several elimination fights. If a mandatory has not been defended in a long period of time the organization sometimes declares two mandatories that need to be fought consecutively.

The WBC has only said they are sanctioning the fight as an eliminator. They often will when two fighters ranked in top 15 agree to fight.

WBC is primarily motivated to collect sanctioning fees.
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If you followed the way the WBC operates they typically have elimination fights before naming a mandatory. In some cases they have several elimination fights. If a mandatory has not been defended in a long period of time the organization sometimes declares two mandatories that need to be fought consecutively.

The WBC has only said they are sanctioning the fight as an eliminator. They often will when two fighters ranked in top 15 agree to fight.

WBC is primarily motivated to collect sanctioning fees.
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Look at how fat Stiverne is at the weigh in. Fifteen pounds heavier than the first fight. I told you it was a FIXXXXXXXXX. Haymon Dibella King and Sulaiman should be INVESTIGATED.

Wilder is an embarrassing fraud joke.

But the jokes on all you suckers who think this is a real fight or that Wilder is a REAL fighter.
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montrealsuper wrote: 03 Nov 2017, 17:45 Look at how fat Stiverne is at the weigh in. Fifteen pounds heavier than the first fight. I told you it was a FIXXXXXXXXX. Haymon Dibella King and Sulaiman should be INVESTIGATED.

Wilder is an embarrassing fraud joke.

But the jokes on all you suckers who think this is a real fight or that Wilder is a REAL fighter.
Stiverne is a lazy fighter that often doesn't come in at peak conditioning. He did so for his last fight as well.

Prior to stepping back in to fight Wilder after Luis Ortiz tested positive he had taken step aside money, and was probably living the high life not the least bit concerned about working out or staying in fighting shape.

Tomorrow he's gonna get knocked out for that.

Wilder doesn't need a fix to beat Stiverne. Who do you think Stiverne is?
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15 pounds fatter with a chance at the WBC title and then a $10m minimum payday vs Joshua. And he comes in fat.

The real reason he's fat is because he knows he's throwing the fight. It's a fu****** fix. and it should be investigated. Stiverne threw the first fight and was owed a payday favor for doing so and the WBC kept him at no. 1 for the payday. It's so obvious a blind deaf retard could sense what's up.

Stiverne has been paid off to throw TWO fights to Wilder. Stiverne, Wilder, Hearn, everyone knows it but you pal. Wake up dude, go back and redo kindergarten and start all over again lol. Pay attn this time!
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gilgamesh wrote: 03 Nov 2017, 17:48
montrealsuper wrote: 03 Nov 2017, 17:45 Look at how fat Stiverne is at the weigh in. Fifteen pounds heavier than the first fight. I told you it was a FIXXXXXXXXX. Haymon Dibella King and Sulaiman should be INVESTIGATED.

Wilder is an embarrassing fraud joke.

But the jokes on all you suckers who think this is a real fight or that Wilder is a REAL fighter.
Stiverne is a lazy fighter that often doesn't come in at peak conditioning. He did so for his last fight as well.

Prior to stepping back in to fight Wilder after Luis Ortiz tested positive he had taken step aside money, and was probably living the high life not the least bit concerned about working out or staying in fighting shape.

Tomorrow he's gonna get knocked out for that.

Wilder doesn't need a fix to beat Stiverne. Who do you think Stiverne is?
He was supposed to be in a training camp to fight Breazeale, so in theory he was not living the high life at all. Of course his shape at the weigh in contradicts me :doh:
If he was actually training, then it isn't too far from Breazeale to Wilder if you factor height and reach. Realistically I agree with you Gil, he looks soft and set for a worse drubbing than last time. It would not surprise me if he quit on his stool by the 4th..
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Stiverne going to get a larruping
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Oiky wrote: 03 Nov 2017, 20:35 Stiverne going to get a larruping
Larruping? That's a new one to me Oiky.
I'm sure your right though.
I'll repay you with a good old Kiwi one;
Stiverne is going to get chooked to the poohole.
:-P
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KiwiRider wrote: 03 Nov 2017, 21:36
Oiky wrote: 03 Nov 2017, 20:35 Stiverne going to get a larruping
Larruping? That's a new one to me Oiky.
I'm sure your right though.
I'll repay you with a good old Kiwi one;
Stiverne is going to get chooked to the poohole.
:-P
Not a Max Baer fan? :box:
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#StayWoke
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Well, heavyweights have sucked for a good while now, and they still do.
Let's not act like act there is any skill in Joshua, Wilder, Fury and the other big bums.

Fortunately for us, we got Lomacehnko/Rigo.
A fight worth more than all of these stupid HW matchups combined.

Stop lusting over big men you imbeciles.
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#StayWoke
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Make a fight between Dillian Whyte and Andy Ruiz immedietly!
That would be my sollution.
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KiwiRider wrote: 03 Nov 2017, 21:36
Oiky wrote: 03 Nov 2017, 20:35 Stiverne going to get a larruping
Larruping? That's a new one to me Oiky.
I'm sure your right though.
I'll repay you with a good old Kiwi one;
Stiverne is going to get chooked to the poohole.
:-P
Yea good old fashioned larruping :lol: English word.

He is going to get chooked to the poohole :lol:
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