Wilder vs Parker????

[tiny_acres]

The fight we all want is Wilder vs Joshua but this might have to suffice for the time being.
If this fight took place in February in Australia or New Zealand who wins and how???

[asdfjkl]

Parker decision I guess, it will be a close fight and the winner did earn a shot against AJ.

[funso banjo baby]

this must surely be a sensible fight for both?

winner would have a much clearer case in negotiations with AJ

[Badhusker]

The fight we all want is Wilder vs Joshua but this might have to suffice for the time being.
If this fight took place in February in Australia or New Zealand who wins and how???

Parker may fight if team Wilder offers more than the low-ball offer Hearn gave them. I think it is a good fight for a while, before Wilder stops him. Wilder mentioned recently that Parker spent some time at his camp, but showed no desire to fight against Wilder. Who knows, Wilder claims that all the top guys duck him. Definitely a fight I want to see. Wilder has a better chance getting that fight than Joshua.

[gilgamesh]

I'd confidently go with Wilder to win that one by KO.

[Ossyrules]

The fight we all want is Wilder vs Joshua but this might have to suffice for the time being.
If this fight took place in February in Australia or New Zealand who wins and how???

Parker may fight if team Wilder offers more than the low-ball offer Hearn gave them. I think it is a good fight for a while, before Wilder stops him. Wilder mentioned recently that Parker spent some time at his camp, but showed no desire to fight against Wilder. Who knows, Wilder claims that all the top guys duck him. Definitely a fight I want to see. Wilder has a better chance getting that fight than Joshua.

I guess it depends on what side of the water you are on. Hearn said Parker is asking for mega bucks and pricing himself out...

Being as you say he’s been offered a low ball offer, so have clearly taken your side on this one, do you have any figures on what he’s been offered and the splits

[Rob Magic]

What you have to remember is Wilder hasn’t fought anyone who can box. He is a protected fighter for a reason. When he finally fights someone with an inch of technique who will easily counter them windmills then we will see how good Wilder is. Until he proves himself against a credible opponent he loses to Parker and Joshua would destroy him.

[Lackeos]

Parker doesn't need this headache. He's still only 25, and a fight with a top 3 heavyweight is not a good career move for him right now. He is best off taking winnable fights and gradually improving over time, a.k.a. the Calzaghe route. Wilder has never had the courage to fight a top 3 heavyweight, especially by the green young age of 25. When Wilder was Parker's age, he was fighting Damon Reed, Dominique Alexander, and Daniel Cota.

But since Wilder is 32 and totally ready for a proper challenge, I would certainly like to see him fight Joshua, Povetkin, Ortiz, or Pulev (or Tyson Fury). Apart from that, I think the WBC needs to put together an eliminator of respectable contenders to offer Wilder a better challenger. I would be happy with an eliminator that featured any combination of Whyte, Ruiz, Takam, Wach, Kabayel, and Kownacki (or fighters not presently ranked by the WBC, like Hammer and Miller).

[Badhusker]

The fight we all want is Wilder vs Joshua but this might have to suffice for the time being.
If this fight took place in February in Australia or New Zealand who wins and how???

Parker may fight if team Wilder offers more than the low-ball offer Hearn gave them. I think it is a good fight for a while, before Wilder stops him. Wilder mentioned recently that Parker spent some time at his camp, but showed no desire to fight against Wilder. Who knows, Wilder claims that all the top guys duck him. Definitely a fight I want to see. Wilder has a better chance getting that fight than Joshua.

I guess it depends on what side of the water you are on. Hearn said Parker is asking for mega bucks and pricing himself out...

Being as you say he’s been offered a low ball offer, so have clearly taken your side on this one, do you have any figures on what he’s been offered and the splits

I have seen no figures from either side. I just read Parker saying it was a low ball offer from Hearn.

[marvelous marv]

I don't know if you guys watch the videos IFL posts on youtube. But hearn was asked about this the other day and said he had never made an offer to Parker. He was not sure where the rumors were coming from.

[Ossyrules]

I don't know if you guys watch the videos IFL posts on youtube. But hearn was asked about this the other day and said he had never made an offer to Parker. He was not sure where the rumors were coming from.

Yes I saw that and I saw on twitter Parker was asking for mega bucks. That doesn’t confirm an offer was made, just opened talks and Parker asking for too much straight off the bat

[KiwiRider]

Parker doesn't need this headache. He's still only 25, and a fight with a top 3 heavyweight is not a good career move for him right now. He is best off taking winnable fights and gradually improving over time, a.k.a. the Calzaghe route. Wilder has never had the courage to fight a top 3 heavyweight, especially by the green young age of 25. When Wilder was Parker's age, he was fighting Damon Reed, Dominique Alexander, and Daniel Cota.

But since Wilder is 32 and totally ready for a proper challenge, I would certainly like to see him fight Joshua, Povetkin, Ortiz, or Pulev (or Tyson Fury). Apart from that, I think the WBC needs to put together an eliminator of respectable contenders to offer Wilder a better challenger. I would be happy with an eliminator that featured any combination of Whyte, Ruiz, Takam, Wach, Kabayel, and Kownacki (or fighters not presently ranked by the WBC, like Hammer and Miller).

I tend to agree. Parker is very green and on top of what you said, he also does not have an Am pedegree either. He needs to build up better opponents to make a fight with AJ or Wilder competitive. Maybe someone like Brazeale or anyone tall and game. Let's not forget that compared to Wilder and AJ, Parker is pretty short as well. I've seen pictures of him standing next to both and it's quite a difference. Parker is about the same size as Bellew and Haye. He struggled with Cojanu who is tall. The only problem is that Parker is not one to dodge fights, Huey Fury being a prime example. He could have ditched that after Fury hurt his back but didn't.

[Ossyrules]

Parker doesn't need this headache. He's still only 25, and a fight with a top 3 heavyweight is not a good career move for him right now. He is best off taking winnable fights and gradually improving over time, a.k.a. the Calzaghe route. Wilder has never had the courage to fight a top 3 heavyweight, especially by the green young age of 25. When Wilder was Parker's age, he was fighting Damon Reed, Dominique Alexander, and Daniel Cota.

But since Wilder is 32 and totally ready for a proper challenge, I would certainly like to see him fight Joshua, Povetkin, Ortiz, or Pulev (or Tyson Fury). Apart from that, I think the WBC needs to put together an eliminator of respectable contenders to offer Wilder a better challenger. I would be happy with an eliminator that featured any combination of Whyte, Ruiz, Takam, Wach, Kabayel, and Kownacki (or fighters not presently ranked by the WBC, like Hammer and Miller).

I tend to agree. Parker is very green and on top of what you said, he also does not have an Am pedegree either. He needs to build up better opponents to make a fight with AJ or Wilder competitive. Maybe someone like Brazeale or anyone tall and game. Let's not forget that compared to Wilder and AJ, Parker is pretty short as well. I've seen pictures of him standing next to both and it's quite a difference. Parker is about the same size as Bellew and Haye. He struggled with Cojanu who is tall. The only problem is that Parker is not one to dodge fights, Huey Fury being a prime example. He could have ditched that after Fury hurt his back but didn't.

I think it highlights also that 4 belts is too many. Parker should be a contender working his way up and learning, but now he has to masquerade as a champ and learn on the job, so the whole situation isn’t quite as easy as it could be for him

[KiwiRider]

I think it highlights also that 4 belts is too many. Parker should be a contender working his way up and learning, but now he has to masquerade as a champ and learn on the job, so the whole situation isn’t quite as easy as it could be for him

Any more than one belt is too many for a world champion.
Parker is an accidental champion. No one thought he could beat Takem. The opportunity came up, Takem thought he was in for an easy night, a very decent payday and didn't mind travelling. That win bumped Parker up to #1 contender and the belt became vacant. Who can blame him for giving it a go? So here he is, a target with a belt. Vastly inexperienced, small for the current crop, and way over his head
Bit he is giving it a go, it's taxing being a fan as every fight for him seems 50/50 or worse. But as someone has said, Wilder at 25 was not fighting at nearly as high a level as little Joey Parker- the achitypical underdog. In fact, I don't think Wilder has fought anyone as lively as Takem yet.

[gilgamesh]

I think it highlights also that 4 belts is too many. Parker should be a contender working his way up and learning, but now he has to masquerade as a champ and learn on the job, so the whole situation isn’t quite as easy as it could be for him

2 belts is too many

[Ossyrules]

I think it highlights also that 4 belts is too many. Parker should be a contender working his way up and learning, but now he has to masquerade as a champ and learn on the job, so the whole situation isn’t quite as easy as it could be for him

Any more than one belt is too many for a world champion.
Parker is an accidental champion. No one thought he could beat Takem. The opportunity came up, Takem thought he was in for an easy night, a very decent payday and didn't mind travelling. That win bumped Parker up to #1 contender and the belt became vacant. Who can blame him for giving it a go? So here he is, a target with a belt. Vastly inexperienced, small for the current crop, and way over his head
Bit he is giving it a go, it's taxing being a fan as every fight for him seems 50/50 or worse. But as someone has said, Wilder at 25 was not fighting at nearly as high a level as little Joey Parker- the achitypical underdog. In fact, I don't think Wilder has fought anyone as lively as Takem yet.

I’m not having a dig at Parker, he was present an opportunity and played the hand he was dealt. Justbthe overall situation, which is obviously out his control

[Ossyrules]

I think it highlights also that 4 belts is too many. Parker should be a contender working his way up and learning, but now he has to masquerade as a champ and learn on the job, so the whole situation isn’t quite as easy as it could be for him

2 belts is too many

If boxing offered me a situation with 2 belts at world level I’d snap there hand off mate

[gilgamesh]

I think it highlights also that 4 belts is too many. Parker should be a contender working his way up and learning, but now he has to masquerade as a champ and learn on the job, so the whole situation isn’t quite as easy as it could be for him

2 belts is too many

If boxing offered me a situation with 2 belts at world level I’d snap there hand off mate

...Not sure what that means

[KiwiRider]

I think it highlights also that 4 belts is too many. Parker should be a contender working his way up and learning, but now he has to masquerade as a champ and learn on the job, so the whole situation isn’t quite as easy as it could be for him

Any more than one belt is too many for a world champion.
Parker is an accidental champion. No one thought he could beat Takem. The opportunity came up, Takem thought he was in for an easy night, a very decent payday and didn't mind travelling. That win bumped Parker up to #1 contender and the belt became vacant. Who can blame him for giving it a go? So here he is, a target with a belt. Vastly inexperienced, small for the current crop, and way over his head
Bit he is giving it a go, it's taxing being a fan as every fight for him seems 50/50 or worse. But as someone has said, Wilder at 25 was not fighting at nearly as high a level as little Joey Parker- the achitypical underdog. In fact, I don't think Wilder has fought anyone as lively as Takem yet.

I’m not having a dig at Parker, he was present an opportunity and played the hand he was dealt. Justbthe overall situation, which is obviously out his control

I know mate, you understand the situation. It is what it is. I got no idea what his future holds, but I guess it doesn't involve holding that belt for very long.

[Ossyrules]

2 belts is too many

If boxing offered me a situation with 2 belts at world level I’d snap there hand off mate

...Not sure what that means

If boxing offered me as a fan a situation in the future where there would be only 2 belts instead of 4, I would take them up on it for sure.

So I agree that 2 is too many, but it’s a damn side better than what we have now

[gilgamesh]

...Not sure what that means

If boxing offered me as a fan a situation in the future where there would be only 2 belts instead of 4, I would take them up on it for sure.

So I agree that 2 is too many, but it’s a damn side better than what we have now

Of course, any improvement is welcome. But why fix it half assed, when you can fix it completely.

[tiny_acres]

...Not sure what that means

If boxing offered me as a fan a situation in the future where there would be only 2 belts instead of 4, I would take them up on it for sure.

So I agree that 2 is too many, but it’s a damn side better than what we have now

Of course, any improvement is welcome. But why fix it half assed, when you can fix it completely.

We can get to 2 freaking champions if we can get Wilder vs Parker

[gilgamesh]

We can get to 2 freaking champions if we can get Wilder vs Parker

You'd think so wouldn't ya? But no...as soon as Wilder or Parker won 2 belts, one of their belts would then be declared vacant for one reason or another, and we'd have a Vacant World Title fight between Hughie Fury and Mariusz Wach or some pathetic sh*t like that.

[tiny_acres]

We can get to 2 freaking champions if we can get Wilder vs Parker

You'd think so wouldn't ya? But no...as soon as Wilder or Parker won 2 belts, one of their belts would then be declared vacant for one reason or another, and we'd have a Vacant World Title fight between Hughie Fury and Mariusz Wach or some pathetic sh*t like that.

Your most truthful post ever.
And this is why boxing is in the predicament it's in.
Too many champs not enough worthy contenders

[ldlamb]

I actually would choose 2 world titles, if given freedom to pick any option.

People are disposed to think the way it was when they grew up, to be he way it should be, and I guess I'm no different.

I grew up in the era of 2 titles and I liked it that way because:

1) if someone was really being ducked by one guy, they did have the other option; and

2) It allowed a good 1 or 2 year build up to huge fights as the two champs cleaned out the division, ala Leonard/Hearns, Curry/McCrory or Spinks/Qawi.