Johann Duhaupas is the biggest win on Wilder's resume

[dagilechia]

Stiverne was always overrated, he lost by KO against some bum, drew to a bum, he beaten fat, past it Arreola that never been any good, except of this he beaten no one,he had a close fight vs Rossy and even been down in this fight

it looks like Duhaupas is the best opponent that Wilder faced so far - his resume is a joke, when he faces someone decent? Wilder is more of an USA champion, not World Champion

[gilgamesh]

He's 2nd best I'd say for sure, you could make a case for him being the best

[dagilechia]

i predict that these are the next 2 opponents of Wilder: Breazeale, Kabayel

[Ilya Muromets]

Duhaupas was injured and also had no time to train for his fight with Wilder.

[Best Coast]

Beg to differ, An in-shape Stiverne that Wilder beat first time around was better than Duhaupas. Arreola was NOT a shot fighter when Stiverne beat him twice. Arreola's only 2 losses before Stiverne was a MD to Adamek and KO loss to Vitali.

[asdfjkl]

Duhaupas was injured and also had no time to train for his fight with Wilder.

Exactly this, Wilder challenged Hughie Fury, a 20 year old at the time, expecting Hughie to say no because his cousin was fighting Klitschko around the same time. Then Hughie accepted on 8 weeks notice. Then Wilder said no and eventually fought Duhaupas instead 7,5 weeks later

[asdfjkl]

Beg to differ, An in-shape Stiverne that Wilder beat first time around was better than Duhaupas. Arreola was NOT a shot fighter when Stiverne beat him twice. Arreola's only 2 losses before Stiverne was a MD to Adamek and KO loss to Vitali.

How many times has he been busted for using drugs at that point already?

[gilgamesh]

Beg to differ, An in-shape Stiverne that Wilder beat first time around was better than Duhaupas. Arreola was NOT a shot fighter when Stiverne beat him twice. Arreola's only 2 losses before Stiverne was a MD to Adamek and KO loss to Vitali.

How many times has he been busted for using drugs at that point already?

Who?

[asdfjkl]

Beg to differ, An in-shape Stiverne that Wilder beat first time around was better than Duhaupas. Arreola was NOT a shot fighter when Stiverne beat him twice. Arreola's only 2 losses before Stiverne was a MD to Adamek and KO loss to Vitali.

How many times has he been busted for using drugs at that point already?

Who?

Arreola, not Stiverne or Wilder

[Lackeos]

Stiverne was always overrated, he lost by KO against some bum

That's a really stupid thing to say. It's one thing to poke holes in Stiverne's wins over Arreola, as those wins are starting to look increasingly weak in hindsight. But if you can't distinguish between a pre-prime defeat (Demetrice King) and an in-prime defeat, or if you don't understand that pre-prime defeats have no bearing on what a fighter is capable of in his prime, then... I dunno, you're just dumb and don't understand how things work. I shouldn't have to explain to your dumbass that Bernard Hopkins's pre-prime defeat against Clinton Mitchell doesn't diminish his abilities during his prime, or Manny Pacquiao's pre-prime defeat against Rustico Torrecampo, or Adonis Stevenson's pre-prime defeat against Darnell Boone, or Archie Moore's pre-prime defeat against Billy Adams, Wladimir Klitschko's pre-prime defeat against Ross Purritty, or Sam Langford's pre-prime defeat against Danny Duane, or Harry Greb's pre-prime defeats to Hooks Evans and Joe Chip, or I could go on for years, because the amount of similar examples is utterly endless, and any boxing fan with ANY knowledge already knows this.

[dagilechia]

Stiverne was always overrated, he lost by KO against some bum

That's a really stupid thing to say. It's one thing to poke holes in Stiverne's wins over Arreola, as those wins are starting to look increasingly weak in hindsight. But if you can't distinguish between a pre-prime defeat (Demetrice King) and an in-prime defeat, or if you don't understand that pre-prime defeats have no bearing on what a fighter is capable of in his prime, then... I dunno, you're just dumb and don't understand how things work. I shouldn't have to explain to your dumbass that Bernard Hopkins's pre-prime defeat against Clinton Mitchell doesn't diminish his abilities during his prime, or Manny Pacquiao's pre-prime defeat against Rustico Torrecampo, or Adonis Stevenson's pre-prime defeat against Darnell Boone, or Archie Moore's pre-prime defeat against Billy Adams, Wladimir Klitschko's pre-prime defeat against Ross Purritty, or Sam Langford's pre-prime defeat against Danny Duane, or I could go on for years, because the amount of similar examples is utterly endless, and any boxing fan with ANY knowledge already knows this.

i just said to show that Stiverne was never impressive at all. I rank Duhaupas higher

[drunkenpiper36]

virtually NONE of the top heavyweights are taking ideal matches right now. This can be said for Joshua and Povetkin as much as it can be said for Wilder.. Only difference is that at least Deontay is making an effort to get great fights, only to have them called off or turned down to no fault of his own..

[asdfjkl]

virtually NONE of the top heavyweights are taking ideal matches right now. This can be said for Joshua and Povetkin as much as it can be said for Wilder.. Only difference is that at least Deontay is making an effort to get great fights, only to have them called off or turned down to no fault of his own..

Are you joking? Wilder ducked all the big payday offers he ever received. He even ducked Briggs who offered more money as Wilder has ever made with any fight in his life. He ducked Whyte as well with bullshit excuses, he only challenges people to ask ridiculous amounts of cash as soon as accepted, or if he knows the fight can't happen, or if he knows a trick how he can chicken out of the fight.

[punchoutsb]

virtually NONE of the top heavyweights are taking ideal matches right now. This can be said for Joshua and Povetkin as much as it can be said for Wilder.. Only difference is that at least Deontay is making an effort to get great fights, only to have them called off or turned down to no fault of his own..

Actually the difference is that AJ and Povetkin have both fought the best HW of their generation. Yes, AJ got him at the end of his career but he still got him. Having Wlad on your resume (be it a win or loss) shows you are willing to fight the best.

Beyond that your first point is correct, nobody is really doing much of anything at the moment. He may have been boring, but Wlad fought everyone. It's not looking like the current championship crop is willing to do the same.

[asdfjkl]

virtually NONE of the top heavyweights are taking ideal matches right now. This can be said for Joshua and Povetkin as much as it can be said for Wilder.. Only difference is that at least Deontay is making an effort to get great fights, only to have them called off or turned down to no fault of his own..

Actually the difference is that AJ and Povetkin have both fought the best HW of their generation. Yes, AJ got him at the end of his career but he still got him. Having Wlad on your resume (be it a win or loss) shows you are willing to fight the best.

Beyond that your first point is correct, nobody is really doing much of anything at the moment. He may have been boring, but Wlad fought everyone. It's not looking like the current championship crop is willing to do the same.

Also note that Wilder refuses to fight anyone AJ or Parker ever defended their title against, while guys like Povetkin, or AJ did fight guys Wilder defended his title against and showed visably better performances.

[punchoutsb]

virtually NONE of the top heavyweights are taking ideal matches right now. This can be said for Joshua and Povetkin as much as it can be said for Wilder.. Only difference is that at least Deontay is making an effort to get great fights, only to have them called off or turned down to no fault of his own..

Actually the difference is that AJ and Povetkin have both fought the best HW of their generation. Yes, AJ got him at the end of his career but he still got him. Having Wlad on your resume (be it a win or loss) shows you are willing to fight the best.

Beyond that your first point is correct, nobody is really doing much of anything at the moment. He may have been boring, but Wlad fought everyone. It's not looking like the current championship crop is willing to do the same.

Also note that Wilder refuses to fight anyone AJ or Parker ever defended their title against, while guys like Povetkin, or AJ did fight guys Wilder defended his title against and showed visably better performances.

Well aside from Takam, AJ hasn't defended against anyone I'd want to see Wilder with. Charles Martin sucks, and Dominic Breazeale is the easiest guy in the division to hit. That being said, Breazeale is supposedly up next for Wilder.

[asdfjkl]

Actually the difference is that AJ and Povetkin have both fought the best HW of their generation. Yes, AJ got him at the end of his career but he still got him. Having Wlad on your resume (be it a win or loss) shows you are willing to fight the best.

Beyond that your first point is correct, nobody is really doing much of anything at the moment. He may have been boring, but Wlad fought everyone. It's not looking like the current championship crop is willing to do the same.

Also note that Wilder refuses to fight anyone AJ or Parker ever defended their title against, while guys like Povetkin, or AJ did fight guys Wilder defended his title against and showed visably better performances.

Well aside from Takam, AJ hasn't defended against anyone I'd want to see Wilder with. Charles Martin sucks, and Dominic Breazeale is the easiest guy in the division to hit. That being said, Breazeale is supposedly up next for Wilder.

AJ had to fight the other "I walk this earth like a god" guy to get the belt in the first place.