Conor Benn US debut

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Conor Benn US debut

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11th November.

Should be interesting to see how he gets on over there. Hope its a decent US novice fighter.
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I'm hoping he gets stepped up a little.

I don't think he's beaten anyone with a winning record with wins over anyone with a winning record.
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BitPlayer wrote: 31 Oct 2017, 14:08 I'm hoping he gets stepped up a little.

I don't think he's beaten anyone with a winning record with wins over anyone with a winning record.
the now highest rated guy hes fought is at #600 on boxrec. most are 700-1000+. hes still not even in the top #200 despite his unbeaten record. its highly padded.

the 4-0, 4-0, 5-1 guys hes fought are pure fluff in reality, though i do think he needs a slow build up and has been guided smartly. despite how padded it is you get even smart fans thinking hes impressive because hes stopping these guys, and more time lets him improve in gym. think step up is appropraite now though.
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Baby steps are needed with this lad, only had a handful of amateur bouts in Australia so he really is learning on the job, step him up slowly because the wrong opponent could ruin him
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littlepug wrote: 31 Oct 2017, 14:24 Baby steps are needed with this lad, only had a handful of amateur bouts in Australia so he really is learning on the job, step him up slowly because the wrong opponent could ruin him

agree. i see how it can frustrate fans but imo its what he needs. dont think he needs much more against the current level of opposition though. hes clearly way above it. time for another step.
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littlepug wrote: 31 Oct 2017, 14:24 Baby steps are needed with this lad, only had a handful of amateur bouts in Australia so he really is learning on the job, step him up slowly because the wrong opponent could ruin him
I just always fear too many easy fights doesn't help developement. Hell even sticking him in with some vetern journeymen might be a good idea since they won't do as much to win, but will make it awkward for him. Qasim Hussain is at the right weight.
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BitPlayer wrote: 31 Oct 2017, 14:33
littlepug wrote: 31 Oct 2017, 14:24 Baby steps are needed with this lad, only had a handful of amateur bouts in Australia so he really is learning on the job, step him up slowly because the wrong opponent could ruin him
I just always fear too many easy fights doesn't help developement. Hell even sticking him in with some vetern journeymen might be a good idea since they won't do as much to win, but will make it awkward for him. Qasim Hussain is at the right weight.
I agree its a fine line for someone in Conors position, he needs to be presented with problems to solve or else he wont progress
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Eubank Jnr went slow and a lot of people doubted him. He is what he is because of the path he has taken. I think fans would be more forgiving of Benn's trajectory if he wasn't forced down their throats and given chances on big cards. He's not even fighting the level of lad where I think he's deserving of headlining one of these NXTGen shows.

I know it sounds far fetched, but with Joyce apparently fighting on the Haye/Bellew 2 card, I'd like to see Benn move around too, and get on Dave. I know the PPv is a co-promotion with Haye as opposed to the Dave shows being Hayemaker Ringstar only, but allowing Benn on freeview could boost his profile even more. Eubank starting on 5 worked pretty well.
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still looks raw, but needs a better class of opponent to progress
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Conor will be brought on very, very slowly
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Any word on the grapevine who Benn will be fighting in the US on Saturday? Still no opponent named.
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mimmy123 wrote: 31 Oct 2017, 13:57 11th November.

Should be interesting to see how he gets on over there. Hope its a decent US novice fighter.
We won't get to see him.
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With 4 days to go his opponent is still listed as TBA. Shame he hasn't gone over and been given a test by a game Mexican who at the least got a couple of weeks notice .... mind you, remember O'Donnell going to Vegas as a hot prospect and facing a tough Mexican. Finished O'Donnell that fight did, really.
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He’s going to need to be brought on slowly and matched very carefully until the cash out fight.
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Wales wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 02:04 With 4 days to go his opponent is still listed as TBA. Shame he hasn't gone over and been given a test by a game Mexican who at the least got a couple of weeks notice .... mind you, remember O'Donnell going to Vegas as a hot prospect and facing a tough Mexican. Finished O'Donnell that fight did, really.
josh taylor also had his toughest vs some hispanic guy in the us. i also remember some french euro champ going over to us to fight some mexican or colombian in a warm up fight and he ended up getting knocked out. those guys dont tend to cover up, hold, and run all fight in hope of losing a decision. the phillipinos also give plenty if tough fights and upsets to prospects. just a different boxing culture where even the 'opponents' go for it and arent planning on losing decisions every month.

but ya benn hasnt been put in with anyone decent and i dont think theyd be looking to do it here. one of the eubanks just got put in with a gritty durable french joyrneyman and arguably lost.
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TheGingerBomber wrote: 31 Oct 2017, 15:17 I think fans would be more forgiving of Benn's trajectory if he wasn't forced down their throats and given chances on big cards. He's not even fighting the level of lad where I think he's deserving of headlining one of these NXTGen shows.
Definitely agree with this. I've got nothing against the lad but his promotion and fights take up time that could be used for proper fights. Instead he gets prime slots on big cards because "it's all part of the journey" :zzz:
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Connor Benn sucks donkey dick! Nobody would've ever even heard of him if his second name wasn't Benn!
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higgs88 wrote: 09 Nov 2017, 07:12 http://boxrec.com/es/boxer/553277

very poor opponent
not really, don't let Benns 9-0 record fool you, the lad is just a novice that is slowly improving, you've got to remember most young pros are coming into the game off the back of an amateur career that probably involved some kind tournament action, so they have experience being in the ring with decent lads, a handful of novice fights in oz wont prepare you for the pros, in reality Conor doesn't know his arse from his elbow yet, give him chance
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higgs88 wrote: 09 Nov 2017, 07:12 http://boxrec.com/es/boxer/553277

very poor opponent
Now that is a classic 'Mexican road sweeper'

I dont know where they found this kid from but what is Benn going to learn from this fella?

I know Benn has had no amateur experience and needs a slow build up this is getting terrible. He needs some lads that have some sort of experience, not saying they need to be decent pros but at least some lads that have had a battle or 2 themselves that are prepared to at least give Benn a tap or 2 on his chin.

The wins on this lads record dont suggest anything, all his wins on his record, the fighters hes beat have never had a win between them.
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mimmy123 wrote: 09 Nov 2017, 08:00
higgs88 wrote: 09 Nov 2017, 07:12 http://boxrec.com/es/boxer/553277

very poor opponent
Now that is a classic 'Mexican road sweeper'

I dont know where they found this kid from but what is Benn going to learn from this fella?

I know Benn has had no amateur experience and needs a slow build up this is getting terrible. He needs some lads that have some sort of experience, not saying they need to be decent pros but at least some lads that have had a battle or 2 themselves that are prepared to at least give Benn a tap or 2 on his chin.

The wins on this lads record dont suggest anything, all his wins on his record, the fighters hes beat have never had a win between them.
exactly, nobody is saying his got to fight for titles yet, but a fight with someone whose at least going to fight back would benefit him. all these knock over jobs are near pointless
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Another jank opponent 💩💩💩💩💩
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mimmy123 wrote: 09 Nov 2017, 08:00
higgs88 wrote: 09 Nov 2017, 07:12 http://boxrec.com/es/boxer/553277

very poor opponent
Now that is a classic 'Mexican road sweeper'

I dont know where they found this kid from but what is Benn going to learn from this fella?

I know Benn has had no amateur experience and needs a slow build up this is getting terrible. He needs some lads that have some sort of experience, not saying they need to be decent pros but at least some lads that have had a battle or 2 themselves that are prepared to at least give Benn a tap or 2 on his chin.

The wins on this lads record dont suggest anything, all his wins on his record, the fighters hes beat have never had a win between them.
You are right . Benn will learn nothing from the opponent but he gets the experience and exposure of boxing abroard. I never really rated the kid until his last outing when i thought he was excellent. He was throwing lovely timed counter punches with devastating effect suggesting that he is learning fast off his coaches in the gym. The early fights at this stage of most prospects careers are only the tip of the iceberg. Most of the development is done behind closed doors in the gym.
I think he is being brought along just right for now. I expect big things from this kid
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big surprise, another opponent not even in the top 1000
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littlepug wrote: 09 Nov 2017, 07:29
higgs88 wrote: 09 Nov 2017, 07:12 http://boxrec.com/es/boxer/553277

very poor opponent
not really, don't let Benns 9-0 record fool you, the lad is just a novice that is slowly improving, you've got to remember most young pros are coming into the game off the back of an amateur career that probably involved some kind tournament action, so they have experience being in the ring with decent lads, a handful of novice fights in oz wont prepare you for the pros, in reality Conor doesn't know his arse from his elbow yet, give him chance
ya i thiink he shouldbe brought slow but look at how the last opponents folded. he could clearly move up a bit w/o being at risk. right now part of it seems to be getting him casual hype with these' monster' stoppage performances.
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