Prime Larry?

[Flump]

- You're lucky Fat Larry wasn't TKOed for walking away from the ref riding to ropes to keep his spaghetti legs from collapsing.

Replay showed Bean landing a roundhouse catching Fat Larry shoulder and neck. IF he hadn't landed the punch, Fat Larry's spaghetti legs wouldn't have "slipped" and he wouldn't have to get up on those spaghetti legs to turn his back and flee from the count all the way to the other corner riding the ropes the whole way.

Sometimes it's best to shut up rather than have to prop Fat Larry up against the likes of Butterbean whom Fatty Larry challenged, BTW, perhaps just as embarrassing as the knockdown. It's in the video library and trust me, future gens are gonna look at that and other bouts and fail to see the genius. His ranking is slowly slipping as all fighters do as their fans die off, all but Joe Louis who still by consensus is #1, so do pay attention Junior and you might not overexpose your limitations so obviously.

The only thing embarrassing is your witless massacre of our language, and your utter lack of boxing knowledge. Mercer a political decision? Butterbean knockdown legitimate? Go back to school toots.

[Kalan]

- You're lucky Fat Larry wasn't TKOed for walking away from the ref riding to ropes to keep his spaghetti legs from collapsing.

Replay showed Bean landing a roundhouse catching Fat Larry shoulder and neck. IF he hadn't landed the punch, Fat Larry's spaghetti legs wouldn't have "slipped" and he wouldn't have to get up on those spaghetti legs to turn his back and flee from the count all the way to the other corner riding the ropes the whole way.

Sometimes it's best to shut up rather than have to prop Fat Larry up against the likes of Butterbean whom Fatty Larry challenged, BTW, perhaps just as embarrassing as the knockdown. It's in the video library and trust me, future gens are gonna look at that and other bouts and fail to see the genius. His ranking is slowly slipping as all fighters do as their fans die off, all but Joe Louis who still by consensus is #1, so do pay attention Junior and you might not overexpose your limitations so obviously.

LMAO!!! Roundhouse to the neck my ass. A weak little left hand that clearly missed and a stumble was called a knockdown. From either angle it's clear but they showed a side angle on the telecast and it was a weak wave that the commentators noted missed completely. Holmes lost his footing and stumbled into the ropes. The fight ended and Holmes was the unanimous winner handing Butterbean his 3rd loss in 70-something fights. It was another win for Larry Holmes at 52. He's a wealthy man.. He wasn't KO'd twice like Louis or forced to make a living as a wrestler.

Louis was knocked down 12 times by guys like Tony Galento---a solid knockdown BTW.. Joe never beat a Tim Witherspoon, a Ken Norton, or a Ray Mercer, guys who averaged about 6'2" X 225.. Louis's challengers averaged about 6' X 190, and were called the "Bum of the Month Club." Louis was an ATG Heavyweight, but lacked Larry's chin and skills.. He dominated a weak era compared to the 70's and 80's when Holmes ruled.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

The only thing embarrassing is your witless massacre of our language, and your utter lack of boxing knowledge. Mercer a political decision? Butterbean knockdown legitimate? Go back to school toots.

- Flumpy is it?

Sounds like a lamb chop in a pair of big boy trainers. You real? Git thee to the butcher and trade yourself in for a proper porterhouse that would at least fit your infantile trainers.

[Flump]

The only thing embarrassing is your witless massacre of our language, and your utter lack of boxing knowledge. Mercer a political decision? Butterbean knockdown legitimate? Go back to school toots.

- Flumpy is it?

Sounds like a lamb chop in a pair of big boy trainers. You real? Git thee to the butcher and trade yourself in for a proper porterhouse that would at least fit your infantile trainers.

And you continue to make less sense and more of an ass of yourself with every word. Tell me more about the political decision in the Holmes - Mercer fight then Stewie Griffin.

[AlexCayWalt]

More biased nonsense. Mercer didn't even turn pro until he was 28, in only his 19th fight they put him in with the veteran Holmes ( which should tell you something ) when he was almost 31 years old. By the time he fought Lewis he was a month past 35 and he'd had 8 more fights only. As for Holmes being more athletic or mobile than Lewis. Yeah right, in either his or your dreams.

Mercer drunk so much. It accelerated his aging. When he fought Lewis he was overweight. But he gave a tough fight because of jab. Lennox Lewis almost always got in trouble when met classy jab. Sometimes Lewis could solve it by destroying opponent with punches. But Mercer was too solid to get knocked out.
Larry's jab was faster and sharper. He also had granite chin and his movement were better. Lennox would get jab by jab every time.

[Kalan]

Holmes had possibly the best left jab in the History of the Heavyweight Division... But Lewis was taller with greater range and a longer reach.. His jab was as good as Emmanuel Steward could make it...which was damned good.. Tyson and Holyfield didn't have a prayer of jabbing with Lewis

For his first 25 fights Lewis didn't really have much of a jab. Nobody came close to beating him.. He could jab up slow guys but couldn't get jabs on Oliver McCall in his 26th fight.. Emmanuel Steward straightened out a few of McCall's problems before his first Lewis fight. He told McCall he would beat Lewis easy. Steward publicly voiced his opinion that Lewis was "easily confused" and said McCall would throw many different styles and tactics at him that would cross him up and make him look like an amateur.

McCall easily won the 1st round versus Lewis and got close with some of his juicier shots.. A few seconds into the 2nd he smashed Lewis to the canvas with a quick, sharp right.. Lewis was badly hurt and wobbled all over the place when he got to his feet -- then leaned on the referee to steady himself.. If I were the referee I would have quickly stepped away to see if he could maintain his balance, but the ref waved the fight off.

Lewis didn't take Steward's remarks personally.. LL got hold of Steward after the fight and begged him to train him.. Now imagine you're Oliver McCall. You just won the greatest and most spectacular victory of your life, doing everything your ATG trainer asked you to do.. But the next thing you know??? Steward deserts you to go over to the foreign boxer you just knocked out!!! ... No loyalty...that's got to make you a little crazy.

McCall won his next fight with Larry Holmes (barely) -- but the advice he was got from Georgie Benton suffered to say the least.