has KING KONG ORTIZ ever been knocked down

[dickbelden]

in a pro fight ?

[funso banjo baby]

when did he fight? I cant remember?

[gilgamesh]

Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents. Wilder probably would've knocked him down.

[Ilya Muromets]

,..,........

[Ilya Muromets]

Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents...

Neither has Wilder fought any especially dangerous opponents, but Harold Sconiers put him on his ass and Molina had him in big trouble before apparently deliberately backing off and he was ko'd in the amareurs. Wilder's handlers know his weakness and got him out of facing Ortiz with the drug trick. They want to cash out on him with a big money fight with Joshua... but then Joshua's handlers know how dangerous Wilder's punches are and they don't want to lose their cash cow either!

[asdfjkl]

when did he fight? I cant remember?

Indeed, barely anyone ever dared to show up against him and the ones who did didn't realise how good he was.

[Ossyrules]

Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents. Wilder probably would've knocked him down.

Agree with the first part, second part... He could, but just as likely could get knocked down himself

[gilgamesh]

Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents. Wilder probably would've knocked him down.

Agree with the first part, second part... He could, but just as likely could get knocked down himself

No doubt. That's why it's such a bummer that we didn't get to see it. It almost certainly would've been the most competitive bout in each man's career.

Both guys had the power to hurt the other.

[Ossyrules]

Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents. Wilder probably would've knocked him down.

Agree with the first part, second part... He could, but just as likely could get knocked down himself

No doubt. That's why it's such a bummer that we didn't get to see it. It almost certainly would've been the most competitive bout in each man's career.

Both guys had the power to hurt the other.

Yeah it’s pretty disappointing how that one played out

[asdfjkl]

Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents...

Neither has Wilder fought any especially dangerous opponents, but Harold Sconiers put him on his ass and Molina had him in big trouble before apparently deliberately backing off and he was ko'd in the amareurs. Wilder's handlers know his weakness and got him out of facing Ortiz with the drug trick. They want to cash out on him with a big money fight with Joshua... but then Joshua's handlers know how dangerous Wilder's punches are and they don't want to lose their cash cow either!

Dustin Nichols also got him on the ground and in the ropes with his 400 pounds. Despite Dustin Nichols lost every single match ever since within 2 rounds.

[gilgamesh]

I wouldn't read much into Wilder's flash knockdowns suffered against fat men, but he can definitely be hurt by upper echelon Heavyweights. As could Joshua or any other Heavyweight going pretty much. None of these guys are invincible.

[asdfjkl]

Agree with the first part, second part... He could, but just as likely could get knocked down himself

No doubt. That's why it's such a bummer that we didn't get to see it. It almost certainly would've been the most competitive bout in each man's career.

Both guys had the power to hurt the other.

Yeah it’s pretty disappointing how that one played out

It played out exactly as predicted months and months beforehand, everybody who knows something about the heavyweights knew this fight would never happen and Wilder would fight a bum, most likely Stiverne, even that was predicted. Even the date when the not happening Ortiz fight would be signed was predicted and despite predicting it like two months beforehand, the actual date was less then 24 hours of and that was included the fight never actually happening.

[Ossyrules]

No doubt. That's why it's such a bummer that we didn't get to see it. It almost certainly would've been the most competitive bout in each man's career.

Both guys had the power to hurt the other.

Yeah it’s pretty disappointing how that one played out

It played out exactly as predicted months and months beforehand, everybody who knows something about the heavyweights knew this fight would never happen and Wilder would fight a bum, most likely Stiverne, even that was predicted. Even the date when the not happening Ortiz fight would be signed was predicted and despite predicting it like two months beforehand, the actual date was less then 24 hours of and that was included the fight never actually happening.

You did predict this stuff but the conspiracy theories are nothing without any proof etc

[asdfjkl]

Yeah it’s pretty disappointing how that one played out

It played out exactly as predicted months and months beforehand, everybody who knows something about the heavyweights knew this fight would never happen and Wilder would fight a bum, most likely Stiverne, even that was predicted. Even the date when the not happening Ortiz fight would be signed was predicted and despite predicting it like two months beforehand, the actual date was less then 24 hours of and that was included the fight never actually happening.

You did predict this stuff but the conspiracy theories are nothing without any proof etc

Well you got your proof now right?

[Ossyrules]

It played out exactly as predicted months and months beforehand, everybody who knows something about the heavyweights knew this fight would never happen and Wilder would fight a bum, most likely Stiverne, even that was predicted. Even the date when the not happening Ortiz fight would be signed was predicted and despite predicting it like two months beforehand, the actual date was less then 24 hours of and that was included the fight never actually happening.

You did predict this stuff but the conspiracy theories are nothing without any proof etc

Well you got your proof now right?

That’s not proof mate. Nobodies getting convicted on tjat

[asdfjkl]

You did predict this stuff but the conspiracy theories are nothing without any proof etc

Well you got your proof now right?

That’s not proof mate. Nobodies getting convicted on tjat

You just assume it to be a whole pile of uncredebly lucky guesses?

[Ossyrules]

Well you got your proof now right?

That’s not proof mate. Nobodies getting convicted on tjat

You just assume it to be a whole pile of uncredebly lucky guesses?

Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. You’ve got a conspiracy theory. If you wanted wilder and his team found guilty, you need proof

[jamamb]

lol that ppl still bring up dustin nichols. clearly wilder was clearly off balance and i dont think he got hit at all.

[Kalan]

Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents. Wilder probably would've knocked him down.

Ortiz would have knocked Wilder out had it gone forward... I'm sure Wilder-Jennings would have gone the distance at the time Ortiz crushed him.

[asdfjkl]

That’s not proof mate. Nobodies getting convicted on tjat

You just assume it to be a whole pile of uncredebly lucky guesses?

Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. You’ve got a conspiracy theory. If you wanted wilder and his team found guilty, you need proof

Ducking Whyte for 5 mil and accepting a better boxer for 2 mil is no proof for you?
Wilder saying funny things like "don't fail a test, don't screw it up" all the time doesn't make it any suspicious? While saying things like "I know what you're doing, you're faking you can't show up because of a hurricane to use doping!". Meanwhile, while I predicted he was going to fight a bum, named Stiverne months beforehand, Stiverne who did got busted with drugs, but Wilder clearly had no problems with that, and win by KO1, I also predicted that right, I was even worried about Stiverne his life and not for no reason. What kind of proof do you want to have? That Wilder knew all these things beforehand? Wilder is the guy who's spreading conspiracy theories, not me. "AJ is scared to unify", "I know I'm the best in the world", first he acts like he pays of Stiverne, while Stiverne acts like he wants to fight Breazeale, which he would lose badly. But then his 2,5 mil paydsy doesn't go trough, remarkebly exactly like predicted, so you expect him to move on to the more easy fight with a 5 mil paydsy right? But no ofcourse not, he makes the bum run out of his contract and fight him for 1,5 mil instead despite just buying him off?! Like the bum would accept that? Oh wait, he does accept that?! Yea sorry mate, but what more evidence do you need?

[Ossyrules]

You just assume it to be a whole pile of uncredebly lucky guesses?

Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. You’ve got a conspiracy theory. If you wanted wilder and his team found guilty, you need proof

Ducking Whyte for 5 mil and accepting a better boxer for 2 mil is no proof for you?
Wilder saying funny things like "don't fail a test, don't screw it up" all the time doesn't make it any suspicious? While saying things like "I know what you're doing, you're faking you can't show up because of a hurricane to use doping!". Meanwhile, while I predicted he was going to fight a bum, named Stiverne months beforehand, Stiverne who did got busted with drugs, but Wilder clearly had no problems with that, and win by KO1, I also predicted that right, I was even worried about Stiverne his life and not for no reason. What kind of proof do you want to have? That Wilder knew all these things beforehand? Wilder is the guy who's spreading conspiracy theories, not me. "AJ is scared to unify", "I know I'm the best in the world", first he acts like he pays of Stiverne, while Stiverne acts like he wants to fight Breazeale, which he would lose badly. But then his 2,5 mil paydsy doesn't go trough, remarkebly exactly like predicted, so you expect him to move on to the more easy fight with a 5 mil paydsy right? But no ofcourse not, he makes the bum run out of his contract and fight him for 1,5 mil instead despite just buying him off?! Like the bum would accept that? Oh wait, he does accept that?! Yea sorry mate, but what more evidence do you need?

In my country proof or evidence isn’t circumstantial sequence of events that you’ve predicted. Thatd be handy in proving events, but it’s not proof. You’d need some kind of lance Armstrong operation to out a lot of people if you wanted to actually prove this

[candyslim]

No knockdowns as such but VADA and Sulaiman had him on his knees.

You just know if he does finally get a(nother) title shot it'll be against Joshua and the fight will go off without a hitch (barring injury)

[asdfjkl]

Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. You’ve got a conspiracy theory. If you wanted wilder and his team found guilty, you need proof

Ducking Whyte for 5 mil and accepting a better boxer for 2 mil is no proof for you?
Wilder saying funny things like "don't fail a test, don't screw it up" all the time doesn't make it any suspicious? While saying things like "I know what you're doing, you're faking you can't show up because of a hurricane to use doping!". Meanwhile, while I predicted he was going to fight a bum, named Stiverne months beforehand, Stiverne who did got busted with drugs, but Wilder clearly had no problems with that, and win by KO1, I also predicted that right, I was even worried about Stiverne his life and not for no reason. What kind of proof do you want to have? That Wilder knew all these things beforehand? Wilder is the guy who's spreading conspiracy theories, not me. "AJ is scared to unify", "I know I'm the best in the world", first he acts like he pays of Stiverne, while Stiverne acts like he wants to fight Breazeale, which he would lose badly. But then his 2,5 mil paydsy doesn't go trough, remarkebly exactly like predicted, so you expect him to move on to the more easy fight with a 5 mil paydsy right? But no ofcourse not, he makes the bum run out of his contract and fight him for 1,5 mil instead despite just buying him off?! Like the bum would accept that? Oh wait, he does accept that?! Yea sorry mate, but what more evidence do you need?

In my country proof or evidence isn’t circumstantial sequence of events that you’ve predicted. Thatd be handy in proving events, but it’s not proof. You’d need some kind of lance Armstrong operation to out a lot of people if you wanted to actually prove this

Yea...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyTPRQq02XU



Goddamn this website and forum is screwed up nowadays

[Ossyrules]

Ducking Whyte for 5 mil and accepting a better boxer for 2 mil is no proof for you?
Wilder saying funny things like "don't fail a test, don't screw it up" all the time doesn't make it any suspicious? While saying things like "I know what you're doing, you're faking you can't show up because of a hurricane to use doping!". Meanwhile, while I predicted he was going to fight a bum, named Stiverne months beforehand, Stiverne who did got busted with drugs, but Wilder clearly had no problems with that, and win by KO1, I also predicted that right, I was even worried about Stiverne his life and not for no reason. What kind of proof do you want to have? That Wilder knew all these things beforehand? Wilder is the guy who's spreading conspiracy theories, not me. "AJ is scared to unify", "I know I'm the best in the world", first he acts like he pays of Stiverne, while Stiverne acts like he wants to fight Breazeale, which he would lose badly. But then his 2,5 mil paydsy doesn't go trough, remarkebly exactly like predicted, so you expect him to move on to the more easy fight with a 5 mil paydsy right? But no ofcourse not, he makes the bum run out of his contract and fight him for 1,5 mil instead despite just buying him off?! Like the bum would accept that? Oh wait, he does accept that?! Yea sorry mate, but what more evidence do you need?

In my country proof or evidence isn’t circumstantial sequence of events that you’ve predicted. Thatd be handy in proving events, but it’s not proof. You’d need some kind of lance Armstrong operation to out a lot of people if you wanted to actually prove this

Yea...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyTPRQq02XU



Goddamn this website and forum is screwed up nowadays

No idea what that clip of me, myself and Irene has to do with anything

[asdfjkl]

In my country proof or evidence isn’t circumstantial sequence of events that you’ve predicted. Thatd be handy in proving events, but it’s not proof. You’d need some kind of lance Armstrong operation to out a lot of people if you wanted to actually prove this

Yea...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyTPRQq02XU

Goddamn this website and forum is screwed up nowadays

No idea what that clip of me, myself and Irene has to do with anything

He's in denial that his kids aren't his, while any idiot can see it from a mile away. If you don't get the memo, then nvm, then I know enough .