Anthony Joshua ... Overhyped & Overworked ??

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Autobarn wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 08:39 Both men badly hurt in a very exciting fight. Just about good enough for me. Especially at heavyweight
I think badly hurt again overstates it. Joshua wobbled for about a second, recovered, and carried on as normal.

Sky were desperate for Joshua not to walk out and slaughter him because they'd decided to go for a domestic scrap as a PPV headliner, so any remote success that Whyte was going to get was always going to be massively overstated. Jim Watt screaming about his legs having gone and Adam Smith shrieking about 'crisis mode' doesn't make me actually think it was anything remotely close to a crisis.
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Autobarn wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 05:40
tiny_acres wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 00:17
jamamb wrote: 09 Nov 2017, 23:31 cant a humble guy ocassionally make non humble comments? just like pretty much any type of person has moments that dont best characterize them
Can't he not sound so scripted???
I enjoy watching Joshua fight he's talented and a ton of fun.
But it's like he's a politician outside the ring just reading a rehearsed script. He doesn't seem real.
Very fake feeling. But that's just my opinion
True yet when a fighter speaks bluntly people often get outraged and offended, especially in this era of social media, where everyone wants to feel superior to a public figure and where everyone has to click “comment” before they’ve thought about what they’re going to say.
His personality reminds me of Oscar's.
I enjoyed Oscar as a fighter but he made me cringed seeing him out of the ring.
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Autobarn wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 08:39 Both men badly hurt in a very exciting fight. Just about good enough for me. Especially at heavyweight
If badly hurt is wobbled, legs went slightly to jelly for all of 5secs then yes he waa badly hurt.
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He was hurt badly enough that if Whyte followed it up, but like a div he never, then he wouldlve got stopped

Was aggravating to watch, Whyte just didn't seem to make anything of it
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he wasnt that badly hurt. got a bit jolted but was never all over the place or anything like whyte was against chisora. only serious trouble hes been in was against wlad and he still won.
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I love this quote from Wilder today;

"Any fan that mention, ‘he still gotta go do Dillian Whyte’, that’s the fan that’s biting their fingernails. Their legs are shaking. Their mouth is quivering. They can’t sleep. They’re fearful of what’s to come. This American king from Tuscaloosa, Alabama, is going to destroy everything that they worship and praise. Everything is going to come tumbling down. That’s why they say that,"

Now doea that remind you of Charles Martin before he got in the ring with AJ or what?
Reading that from Wilder brings flashes of Martin sitting on his arse in the ring looking like he didn't know what hit him. I feel Wilder will be doing the same when it comes his time.
Calling himself The American King :lol:
Ya have to love his self promotion. Boxing is great with characters like that
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Wait until you hear him after he knocks aj out.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 22:28 Wait until you hear him after he knocks aj out.
I can't wait. I loves meself a good rematch.
He is already like a skinny Mr T

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Oiky wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 09:29 He was hurt badly enough that if Whyte followed it up, but like a div he never, then he wouldlve got stopped

Was aggravating to watch, Whyte just didn't seem to make anything of it

Whyte tried to but he isnt good enough and Joshua wasn’t hurt enough, to land the shots he was throwing. Joshua was throwing punches back ten seconds later. Watching it back, it seemed far worse at the time than it actually was.
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Oiky wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 09:29 He was hurt badly enough that if Whyte followed it up, but like a div he never, then he wouldlve got stopped

Was aggravating to watch, Whyte just didn't seem to make anything of it
He kept getting hit in the head. It's the same story as v Klitschko, the opponent was actually in there with him and not a sitting duck.
Doesn't suit the Joshua haters narrative though.
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People realise that it's not subjective and the fight did actually happen don't they? We can all get onto YouTube and watch the second round again.

Here is what actually happened. With 1:17 on the clock Whyte lands the shot in question. Joshua takes it but steps towards Whyte and wobbles slightly so looks to hold having half thrown a counter. Whyte reacts straight away, forcing Joshua to the ropes throwing eight heavy shots over the next few seconds which Joshua avoids/blocks. With 1:05 on the clock Joshua has thrown two shots back and forces Whyte himself back. They both land several more in the next minute but neither are wobbled again. Joshua occupies centre.

That's it. 'He didn't follow up.' He did. In fact, he did so immediately. The reality is Joshua just wasn't that hurt. He was able to deal with a Whyte attack fairly comfortably and ten seconds later was firing shots back.

As I've said, the most overstated punch of the year.
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most overstated punch of the last 3 years

its still the bulk of whytes reputation. he should be very thankful king aj is around and he can get some shine off him.
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Oiky wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 09:29 He was hurt badly enough that if Whyte followed it up, but like a div he never, then he wouldlve got stopped

Was aggravating to watch, Whyte just didn't seem to make anything of it
He got buzzed but this has become like a Greek myth. He was really that close to going down, just got stuff legs and heavy. Whyte threw the kitchen sink at him for the next 1.5 rounds, you can’t say he didn’t give it a go
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dirk2686 wrote: 11 Nov 2017, 04:38 People realise that it's not subjective and the fight did actually happen don't they? We can all get onto YouTube and watch the second round again.

Here is what actually happened. With 1:17 on the clock Whyte lands the shot in question. Joshua takes it but steps towards Whyte and wobbles slightly so looks to hold having half thrown a counter. Whyte reacts straight away, forcing Joshua to the ropes throwing eight heavy shots over the next few seconds which Joshua avoids/blocks. With 1:05 on the clock Joshua has thrown two shots back and forces Whyte himself back. They both land several more in the next minute but neither are wobbled again. Joshua occupies centre.

That's it. 'He didn't follow up.' He did. In fact, he did so immediately. The reality is Joshua just wasn't that hurt. He was able to deal with a Whyte attack fairly comfortably and ten seconds later was firing shots back.

As I've said, the most overstated punch of the year.
Well said dirk
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Their milking the cow until the wheels fall off.. they are going to fall off very soon
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who is gonna knock them off? sounds more like wishful thinking, unless your talking about sparring lol

i only really see wilder with a realistic chance and i think joshua gets to him first with better technique. wilder gets hit more by 2nd and 3rd tier guys than aj does.

parker, miller, povetkin, etc get badly beaten up. pulev gets smashed like wlad did to him if he ever finds the balls to fight aj. fury doesnt box, haye is crippled.
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