Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Ancajas vs. Conlan Winner?

Poll ended at 28 Sep 2017, 11:30

Jerwin Ancajas
19
76%
Jamie Conlan
6
24%
 
Total votes: 25

Neil Gee
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by Neil Gee »

For me Frampton needs the last to get a draw. I thought he lost the 9th.
Ossyrules
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by Ossyrules »

diddy wrote: 18 Nov 2017, 19:19 It’s not like Garcia can win a decision. Needs a KO or 3 knockdowns.
Haha
Stuarty
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by Stuarty »

Good last round from Frampton but he looked suspect again in terms of durability. Seemed to tire but the body shots from Garcia played a part there! I've got Carl by 7/3 possibly 6/4.
Neil Gee
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by Neil Gee »

I give Frampton the last so I have it a draw but if you take off the 10-8 that shouldn't have been in the 7th Frampton wins.
rossij8
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by rossij8 »

Wasnt a KD tbf but from the refs angle it looked like it
BitPlayer
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by BitPlayer »

Scorecards about as crap as you'd expect.
cutsman
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by cutsman »

Too wide
rossij8
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by rossij8 »

Bit wide for me, could have been a draw
Neil Gee
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by Neil Gee »

I just heard Ireland breathe a huge sigh of relief
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by gilgamesh »

In spite of taking the loss there. Looking at his record I'd assume that had to be one of the finest performances of Garcia's career.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by diddy »

Garcia would’ve needed 4 knockdowns to get a decision not 3.
sammy95
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by sammy95 »

96-93 is a decent card, the other two are a stretch though
Wa1nuts
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by Wa1nuts »

He didn't look great but I enjoyed the fight. García so tough
BitPlayer
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by BitPlayer »

gilgamesh wrote: 18 Nov 2017, 19:37 In spite of taking the loss there. Looking at his record I'd assume that had to be one of the finest performances of Garcia's career.
I think Frampton massively underperformed too.
paddy chavez
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by paddy chavez »

I think a lot of modern fighters that use weight training have bad stamina like frampton ,Kell brook and canelo ...
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by gilgamesh »

paddy chavez wrote: 18 Nov 2017, 19:41 I think a lot of modern fighters that use weight training have bad stamina like frampton ,Kell brook and canelo ...

Yeah. Weight training isn't beneficial to the kind of muscle needed to be effective at Boxing.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by paddy chavez »

gilgamesh wrote: 18 Nov 2017, 19:44
paddy chavez wrote: 18 Nov 2017, 19:41 I think a lot of modern fighters that use weight training have bad stamina like frampton ,Kell brook and canelo ...

Yeah. Weight training isn't beneficial to the kind of muscle needed to be effective at Boxing.
Look at Floyd Vs McGregor McGregor had nothing after 5/6 RDS to ripped isn't good for the stamina
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by wesshaw1985 »

wouldn't mind seeing Carl vs. Kid Galahad whilst waiting on the Selby/Warrington winner...
Stuarty
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by Stuarty »

Carl getting some stick and rightly so but I deffo gave him 6 rounds there possibly 7 but I'm a big Frampton fan and I'm possibly bias. He landed some sharp hard shots there that would've had most other guys at the weight in bother.
Jackson328
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by Jackson328 »

Selby, Warrington, Quigg, LSC etc will all fancy their chances on that showing from Frampton and that might make it easier to make a big fight next because Carl looked very rusty at times in there and shipped some hits too. Been a sh1t year for Frampton in fairness, lost his title in January then all the hassle of changing trainers, promoters, managers etc. At least he made it through but I think he needs to cash out next year, not saying he's on the slide but he's been in some tough fights and is still taking too much punishment at the higher weight. Selby in Belfast or Cardiff, whichever pays best or maybe Warrington at Elland Rd, both winnable fights for him but also losable, at least he gets a good payday from either.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by coneye »

Frampton looked good early , got tired and went into bad habits , which looking at it were all feet related , he went square on , was off balance especielly when he got the knock down ,, Whats behind it , my opinion is PADS , don't get me wrong i'm a firm beliver in lots of pads , but pads should be moving , stand in fornt with your pads open encourging a 4 punch hard combination is great looks good , makes the trainer feel good , boxer can think Yey i nailed it ,, but truth is they may has well hit the bag .

And especielly when the trainer is a bigger man and can absorb the blows , then its a set 4 , trainer moves and another set 3 or 4 ,, except in a fight it don't happen the opponent is moving and does'nt stand still , I watched Frampton and Jamie on pads , Thats where Frampton is learning to square up and lose his footwork , padwork with a smaller guy who is contiually moving , forward , backward and sideward , in out side to side , with jamie calling whats needed from the side is more the way to go ,,,

Suppose lots will disagree , but after 50 odd years of being involved in boxing i believe pads are the best tool available to a trainer , but only if used CORRECTLY
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by handsofstone »

coneye wrote: 18 Nov 2017, 20:19 Frampton looked good early , got tired and went into bad habits , which looking at it were all feet related , he went square on , was off balance especielly when he got the knock down ,, Whats behind it , my opinion is PADS , don't get me wrong i'm a firm beliver in lots of pads , but pads should be moving , stand in fornt with your pads open encourging a 4 punch hard combination is great looks good , makes the trainer feel good , boxer can think Yey i nailed it ,, but truth is they may has well hit the bag .

And especielly when the trainer is a bigger man and can absorb the blows , then its a set 4 , trainer moves and another set 3 or 4 ,, except in a fight it don't happen the opponent is moving and does'nt stand still , I watched Frampton and Jamie on pads , Thats where Frampton is learning to square up and lose his footwork , padwork with a smaller guy who is contiually moving , forward , backward and sideward , in out side to side , with jamie calling whats needed from the side is more the way to go ,,,

Suppose lots will disagree , but after 50 odd years of being involved in boxing i believe pads are the best tool available to a trainer , but only if used CORRECTLY
Top post Con :salut: :salut:
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by Boxerbeetle »

Frampton looked poor tonight, and gassed very badly against a not particularly good opponent. I’ve always said Selby beats him, and am more sure than ever now.
Oiky
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by Oiky »

Wasn't up to much was he
Jackson328
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Re: Round-By-Round - Jerwin Ancajas (c) vs. Jamie Conlan - November 18th 2017

Post by Jackson328 »

Top post coneye, I said early on tonight that Framptons feet were leaden.

Boxerbeetle totally agree mate, Selby is Kryptonite for Carl :TU:
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