Joshua - ‘superior black race’

[Oiky]

One is a private message the other is a guy making public statements.

One is a guy saying things in a context we are not actually totally sure about. The other is a guy making it clear of his thought process and beliefs and then reiterating it, expanding on it, adding to it and making damn sure we know he thinks it is how he wishes the world was and thinks others should follow his example.

AJ spieling some shite in a one liner to another black guy, in private, is not the same thing at all, oh and it is not HIS fault how others judge and take the words and what they do with it.

Cop on will you

One is this one is that , stop going round in circles & beating around the bush and talking private messages & all that sh*t

If that was a screenshot of a Tyson fury message you lot on here would be going on like maniacs over it , you wouldn't be talking "context" and all that rubbish

Who cares if Tyson said it & meant it exactly as he said it for all the public to see ? And that AJs was a PM

If tysons was a pm you wouldlnt be saying "we don't know how he meant it" and all that lark you'd be gossiping like house wives over it

Laughable

"You lot"? Actually if you go back in my history, I pretty much said he could say what he liked, I could not give a poo BUT did say he should not then moan about lack of sponsorship. Getting headlines and a lot of flak over something clearly makes brands not want the association. #

Your post is insulting and assumptive, you do not have a clue what I would say about Fury as he has never just said things privately as he is too stupid to have a public and difference private side.

Your still dilly dallying around the truth

Nothing is private in the world of professional boxers & social media

So if Tyson had two different sides for two different situations, personal & private, it'd make it acceptable in others eyes to take on Board the things he has said ?

I doubt it

Nothing will change the fact if Tyson DMed that people would be shooting him down

Not saying "don't worry lads that's ol tysons private side"

[mickey1975]

I'd be very interested to hear Josh's real views on gays. They are not tolerated in Nigeria where he was schooled and considers himself from.

[Ossyrules]

Any further update on this? I’m certain itd be a fake it smacks of fake.

Lol at the fury fans piling into the thread. Not everything is about fury

[tobyh5]

Lol at the fury fans piling into the thread. Not everything is about fury

Amen.

[tobyh5]

Any further update on this? I’m certain itd be a fake it smacks of fake.

Eddie Hearn says that it was fake but it was then shown by Chambers to have come from the account of AJ, so the next one to come out was he was hacked or someone has accessed his account so the team are looking into it. But no outright denial which makes sense or which cannot be pulled apart quite easily.

No denial from AJ which could be telling. If it was me, and it was nothing to do with me, I would be straight out stating that.

[Ossyrules]

I'd be very interested to hear Josh's real views on gays. They are not tolerated in Nigeria where he was schooled and considers himself from.

Does he? I think he’s proud of his roots but have never heard him consider himself from nigeria

[funso banjo baby]

very dull thread

[Ossyrules]

Any further update on this? I’m certain itd be a fake it smacks of fake.

Eddie Hearn says that it was fake but it was then shown by Chambers to have come from the account of AJ, so the next one to come out was he was hacked or someone has accessed his account so the team are looking into it. But no outright denial which makes sense or which cannot be pulled apart quite easily.

No denial from AJ which could be telling. If it was me, and it was nothing to do with me, I would be straight out stating that.

Yeah I saw the video posted by chambers to verify it came from Joshua’s account. I looked for a Joshua response and last thing was he was in Dubai.

In truth I doubt how hurt Chambers is by these comments. It seems like he’s trying to talk up a fight to me.

Will wait and see how this unfolds

[samwbr]

Who cares if fury took Coke ? People go on like they are his wife when they chime on about Coke use. What's it got to do with anyone what someone takes , mike Tyson sniffed & smoked who gives a f*ck

The whole fury UKAD thing is a farce UKAD are backward , and when you talk PEDs you are naive if you think Joshua ain't juicing

Tyson ain't ended nothing, it's a case of if he really wants to, and if he does, he would beat Anthony Joshua

But back on topic, double standards is right , if that was anyone but AJ , all the minges would be out in force

"Fury ended his own career" (in your opinion)

Let's say he hadn't , if he said that and he was still active then people would be carrying on like a scorned woman over it

That's still mincing around the truth that if Tyson said it it would be a different matter to say that

The same people who call Joshua a drug dealing violent criminal yet defend Furys cocaine use. Personally neither man offends me and I couldn't give a fornicate what other people get up to, it would be hypocritical for starters.
They fight for a living what do people expect really? Joshua is playing the game, he's good at it and makes millions.

[Oiky]

Lol at the fury fans piling into the thread. Not everything is about fury

Amen.

No it isn't about fury you are right This particular incident has nothing to do with him st all

Just stating how you's would all be losing the plot IF it did involve him

But because it involves AJ it's being ignored as not really an issue

Hypocrites

Like I said I couldlnt give a f*ck what Joshua said

But the same folk giving Joshua a pass or not taking much notice are the same lot who go all divvy on us when Tyson says something

No ones trying to make it about Tyson anyway

Saying we are trying to make it about Tyson is another way to avoid the fact that in your eyes AJ can say what he likes cos it's private and a bit of messing about but furys got to watch his mouth

Trying to divert away from the issue by saying "it's not about Tyson "

[Oiky]

Who cares if fury took Coke ? People go on like they are his wife when they chime on about Coke use. What's it got to do with anyone what someone takes , mike Tyson sniffed & smoked who gives a f*ck

The whole fury UKAD thing is a farce UKAD are backward , and when you talk PEDs you are naive if you think Joshua ain't juicing

Tyson ain't ended nothing, it's a case of if he really wants to, and if he does, he would beat Anthony Joshua

But back on topic, double standards is right , if that was anyone but AJ , all the minges would be out in force

"Fury ended his own career" (in your opinion)

Let's say he hadn't , if he said that and he was still active then people would be carrying on like a scorned woman over it

That's still mincing around the truth that if Tyson said it it would be a different matter to say that

The same people who call Joshua a drug dealing violent criminal yet defend Furys cocaine use. Personally neither man offends me and I couldn't give a eff what other people get up to, it would be hypocritical for starters.
They fight for a living what do people expect really? Joshua is playing the game, he's good at it and makes millions.

I have never called AJ a "drug dealing violent criminal" I don't give a sh*t if he has dealt drugs

As long as you aren't hurting children or a rapist I don't give a f*ck what you do

[samwbr]

Who cares if fury took Coke ? People go on like they are his wife when they chime on about Coke use. What's it got to do with anyone what someone takes , mike Tyson sniffed & smoked who gives a f*ck

The whole fury UKAD thing is a farce UKAD are backward , and when you talk PEDs you are naive if you think Joshua ain't juicing

Tyson ain't ended nothing, it's a case of if he really wants to, and if he does, he would beat Anthony Joshua

But back on topic, double standards is right , if that was anyone but AJ , all the minges would be out in force

"Fury ended his own career" (in your opinion)

Let's say he hadn't , if he said that and he was still active then people would be carrying on like a scorned woman over it

That's still mincing around the truth that if Tyson said it it would be a different matter to say that

The same people who call Joshua a drug dealing violent criminal yet defend Furys cocaine use. Personally neither man offends me and I couldn't give a eff what other people get up to, it would be hypocritical for starters.
They fight for a living what do people expect really? Joshua is playing the game, he's good at it and makes millions.

I have never called AJ a "drug dealing violent criminal" I don't give a sh*t if he has dealt drugs

As long as you aren't hurting children or a rapist I don't give a f*ck what you do

I didn't say you had .Plenty of Fury fans do tho whilst wanting some weird forgiveness for Fury's supposed misdemeanours but pillorying Joshua. It's bizarre, as tho he's their brother or best mate rather than a bloke off the telly.

[Ossyrules]

Lol at the fury fans piling into the thread. Not everything is about fury

Amen.

No it isn't about fury you are right This particular incident has nothing to do with him st all

Just stating how you's would all be losing the plot IF it did involve him

But because it involves AJ it's being ignored as not really an issue

Hypocrites

Like I said I couldlnt give a f*ck what Joshua said

But the same folk giving Joshua a pass or not taking much notice are the same lot who go all divvy on us when Tyson says something

No ones trying to make it about Tyson anyway

Saying we are trying to make it about Tyson is another way to avoid the fact that in your eyes AJ can say what he likes cos it's private and a bit of messing about but furys got to watch his mouth

Trying to divert away from the issue by saying "it's not about Tyson "

With respect you’ve walked right into this one...

1. We wouldn’t all be losing our shite if fury had said these comments. Fury is polarising character but has as many people love him blindly as he does hate him. The blind lovers would still love him if he sent that message to chambers. The guys that hate him would give him shite. So no not everyone would be losing there shite. Remember fury insulting Bellew live on channel 5 as prices gay lover. Is this any worse?

2. It’s not being ignored cos it’s joshua. There’s a 6 page thread here and another on CS with enough haters jumping on board

3. “Hypocrites”. Pot kettle Oiky

4. You couldn’t give a fack if Joshua has said it. You’ve only massively contributed to the thread and quoted my post that you wasn’t tagged in. So there obviously is some care there my old mucker.

5. Some Joshua lovers will give him a pass I agree. Just the same the blind fury lovers and BJS lovers give them multiple passes for every which way but loose

6. “No ones trying to make it about tyson anyway”. See page 1 when a post goes, tyson smashes the body builder anyway. And frankly you can’t stop talking fury either

7. The next paragraph from you is BS frankly and making untrue assumptions. All I’ve said is it seems fake

8. Not trying to divert any Joshua “issue”, but the thread “isn’t about fury”. This is the truth take it how you like

[Verdi]

This is boxing. I like watching people box. I couldn't give a damn about personality, or who says or does what.

[Oiky]

Amen.

No it isn't about fury you are right This particular incident has nothing to do with him st all

Just stating how you's would all be losing the plot IF it did involve him

But because it involves AJ it's being ignored as not really an issue

Hypocrites

Like I said I couldlnt give a f*ck what Joshua said

But the same folk giving Joshua a pass or not taking much notice are the same lot who go all divvy on us when Tyson says something

No ones trying to make it about Tyson anyway

Saying we are trying to make it about Tyson is another way to avoid the fact that in your eyes AJ can say what he likes cos it's private and a bit of messing about but furys got to watch his mouth

Trying to divert away from the issue by saying "it's not about Tyson "

With respect you’ve walked right into this one...

1. We wouldn’t all be losing our shite if fury had said these comments. Fury is polarising character but has as many people love him blindly as he does hate him. The blind lovers would still love him if he sent that message to chambers. The guys that hate him would give him shite. So no not everyone would be losing there shite. Remember fury insulting Bellew live on channel 5 as prices gay lover. Is this any worse?

2. It’s not being ignored cos it’s joshua. There’s a 6 page thread here and another on CS with enough haters jumping on board

3. “Hypocrites”. Pot kettle Oiky

4. You couldn’t give a fack if Joshua has said it. You’ve only massively contributed to the thread and quoted my post that you wasn’t tagged in. So there obviously is some care there my old mucker.

5. Some Joshua lovers will give him a pass I agree. Just the same the blind fury lovers and BJS lovers give them multiple passes for every which way but loose

6. “No ones trying to make it about tyson anyway”. See page 1 when a post goes, tyson smashes the body builder anyway. And frankly you can’t stop talking fury either

7. The next paragraph from you is BS frankly and making untrue assumptions. All I’ve said is it seems fake

8. Not trying to divert any Joshua “issue”, but the thread “isn’t about fury”. This is the truth take it how you like

Lovely breakdown mate

Yea fury has supporters on here, but when I say "you would be losing the plot" I'm referring to the people that shoot him down on here whenever he says something

and I don't care no - I don't need to be tagged in a post to reply to it. I'm passing away time on a Sunday evening

[Controversial]

I think some of you guys are off target with this being a black and white thing, I don't see it like that at all. AJ is of Nigerian descent, he has a map of Africa tattooed on him and if you look at AJ's team all the black guys are of African descent judging by their surnames. There has always been a divide between Africans and people from the Caribbean and this is what I think is meant by "superior black race", i.e. Africans are superior to other black people.

[Sklar]

Objectively West African blacks and those of that extraction are generally physically superior to other races in many respects. Certainly in a lot of fast twitch activities. Don't see the controversy in stating such.

[Nightmare Roy]

I'd be very interested to hear Josh's real views on gays. They are not tolerated in Nigeria where he was schooled and considers himself from.

Probably not as extreme as Fury's, what you reckon?

[mickey1975]

I'd be very interested to hear Josh's real views on gays. They are not tolerated in Nigeria where he was schooled and considers himself from.

Probably not as extreme as Fury's, what you reckon?

I think both would cause uproar in their families if they'd have come out at a young age. They'd have been severely beaten.

[mickey1975]

Objectively West African blacks and those of that extraction are generally physically superior to other races in many respects. Certainly in a lot of fast twitch activities. Don't see the controversy in stating such.

What if someone said Nigerians are inherently corrupt. Cameron got pilloried for it, and it's true. Or also nearly all the money that goes to African countries from charity is stolen by a mega rich few whilst there people are starving. I'll let them off with a few extra yards in the 100m, though, fair swap.

[mickey1975]

Big Tyson should take the opportunity to slate them for being crap at darts, snooker, swimming etc.

[Oiky]

I think some of you guys are off target with this being a black and white thing, I don't see it like that at all. AJ is of Nigerian descent, he has a map of Africa tattooed on him and if you look at AJ's team all the black guys are of African descent judging by their surnames. There has always been a divide between Africans and people from the Caribbean and this is what I think is meant by "superior black race", i.e. Africans are superior to other black people.

See how b/c it's Joshua it's not a black or white thing or not this or not that

If Tyson had said that no one would go into detail as to why or what his reason was for saying it is the point

Joshua has come out with this sh*t and people are starting to give out history lessons as to why he said it

You are all kidding yourselves if you think fury would get away with the same, in whatever way he said or meant it

[mickey1975]

I think some of you guys are off target with this being a black and white thing, I don't see it like that at all. AJ is of Nigerian descent, he has a map of Africa tattooed on him and if you look at AJ's team all the black guys are of African descent judging by their surnames. There has always been a divide between Africans and people from the Caribbean and this is what I think is meant by "superior black race", i.e. Africans are superior to other black people.

And if you look at Tysons team, they are all races and cultures, including Chambers!

[chiggsy]

Just going to watch “12 years a slave” before i give my opinion.

[Oiky]

I think some of you guys are off target with this being a black and white thing, I don't see it like that at all. AJ is of Nigerian descent, he has a map of Africa tattooed on him and if you look at AJ's team all the black guys are of African descent judging by their surnames. There has always been a divide between Africans and people from the Caribbean and this is what I think is meant by "superior black race", i.e. Africans are superior to other black people.

And if you look at Tysons team, they are all races and cultures, including Chambers!

Let's not forget the prayers he has said in his dressing room with all cultures