Joshua v Parker for March

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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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https://twitter.com/joeboxerparker/stat ... 0437556224

Joseph Parker demanding 40% from a probable total purse pot approaching the $25m mark, which means that he wants $10m, with AJ taking a pay cut of $5m to receive only $15m, despite the Kiwi's career-best purse only being $1.4m. :KO:

WTF! Where's the justification for his ludicrous demands?

You know what I’d do if I was Eddie Hearn… I’d say “fornicate you! Continue earning paltry purses and we’ll face the next person that holds that WBO belt instead.”
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 12:01 https://twitter.com/joeboxerparker/stat ... 0437556224

Joseph Parker demanding 40% from a probable total purse pot approaching the $25m mark, which means that he wants $10m, with AJ taking a pay cut of $5m to receive only $15m, despite the Kiwi's career-best purse only being $1.4m. :KO:

WTF! Where's the justification for his ludicrous demands?

You know what I’d do if I was Eddie Hearn… I’d say “eff you! Continue earning paltry purses and we’ll face the next person that holds that WBO belt instead.”
I never thought I would have to make some corrections EO.
But; it's Parker's manager making the demands, and like any negotiator- start high. Higgie is just doing his job.
And; Parker's biggest payday was 1.8 US plus a cut of PPV. I don't know the total but easily over 2 mil USD
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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In most professional sports, the winner would take the big and the loser take the small prize.
That's why it used to be called prize fighting.
But these days the champ wants the big prize, win or lose, he wants the home advantage and in the UK, the BBoC demand a British ref and at least one British judge.
Talk about a level playing field in sport?
I think it may be easier and more lucrative for JP to fight Povetkin in Russia.
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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BillW wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 17:03 In most professional sports, the winner would take the big and the loser take the small prize.
That's why it used to be called prize fighting.
But these days the champ wants the big prize, win or lose, he wants the home advantage and in the UK, the BBoC demand a British ref and at least one British judge.
Talk about a level playing field in sport?
I think it may be easier and more lucrative for JP to fight Povetkin in Russia.
Good point. He could as much or more fighting Povetkin.
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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yes team povs got some dough, almost as much as pov used to have around his belly. i think pov would beat parker but for the fight to happen you need to keep pov away from any drug tests :lol:

btw i dont like this new lol emoji thing. too intense of laughter. just looks like a jerk who loves himself too much
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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KiwiRider wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 14:10
Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 12:01 https://twitter.com/joeboxerparker/stat ... 0437556224

Joseph Parker demanding 40% from a probable total purse pot approaching the $25m mark, which means that he wants $10m, with AJ taking a pay cut of $5m to receive only $15m, despite the Kiwi's career-best purse only being $1.4m. :KO:

WTF! Where's the justification for his ludicrous demands?

You know what I’d do if I was Eddie Hearn… I’d say “eff you! Continue earning paltry purses and we’ll face the next person that holds that WBO belt instead.”
I never thought I would have to make some corrections EO.
But; it's Parker's manager making the demands, and like any negotiator- start high. Higgie is just doing his job.
And; Parker's biggest payday was 1.8 US plus a cut of PPV. I don't know the total but easily over 2 mil USD
The Express reported that Joseph Parker received £1.1m, with Fury receiving £750K from their bout.

In terms of currency conversion, £1.1m is roughly $1.45m (USD) using today’s exchange rate.

The New Zealand Herald quoted Parker’s purse as being $2.1m (NZD) for the Fury fight, which equates to $1.43m (USD) using today’s currency exchange rate. This is the same figure quoted my multiple New Zealand media outlets during early September.

The exchange rate today is obviously a little different than when Parker & Fury fought, so I quoted an approximation.

Are you quoting Parker’s initial purse that he might have earned before Fury initially withdrew from their bout (due to injury) after Duco Events won their purse bid (back in February), because his actual payday for the rearranged bout was less than the figures initially quoted?

Also, Duco Events admitted that the PPV price for Parker-Fury fight had to be dropped in New Zealand by 33% due to low sales (i.e. from $59.95 for the Ruiz Jr. bout to only $39.95 NZD) , coupled with struggled to fill the Manchester Arena for that bout.

Did Parker earn a guaranteed $1.8m (USD) against a different foe?

I also quoted Joseph Parker’s personal Twitter account when I discussed his alleged 40% purse split demands. If you'd clicked on the link, you would have seen it.

If Parker wanted to distance himself from David Higgins demands, he wouldn't have authorised that Tweet.

Also, the purse split demand stipulated in that Tweet was also corroborated during an interview that Sky Sports performed with Parker:

"Joseph Parker says he deserves fair deal to fight Anthony Joshua"

Asked about the opening offer, Parker exclusively told Sky Sports: "I feel it's a little low, but they can improve on it.

"Voluntary is 20 per cent is it? Mandatory is 30 per cent? So I think unification, it's fair to make it 40 for a unification. It comes down to negotiating and seeing where everybody is at.

"I think I do deserve that respect. I worked hard to get here and I believe that if we want to unify then we should actually do a deal that everyone is happy with."


"I never thought I would have to make some corrections" KiwiRider. Sorry, I couldn't help it! :lol:
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 20:57
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 14:10
Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 12:01 https://twitter.com/joeboxerparker/stat ... 0437556224

Joseph Parker demanding 40% from a probable total purse pot approaching the $25m mark, which means that he wants $10m, with AJ taking a pay cut of $5m to receive only $15m, despite the Kiwi's career-best purse only being $1.4m. :KO:

WTF! Where's the justification for his ludicrous demands?

You know what I’d do if I was Eddie Hearn… I’d say “eff you! Continue earning paltry purses and we’ll face the next person that holds that WBO belt instead.”
I never thought I would have to make some corrections EO.
But; it's Parker's manager making the demands, and like any negotiator- start high. Higgie is just doing his job.
And; Parker's biggest payday was 1.8 US plus a cut of PPV. I don't know the total but easily over 2 mil USD
The Express reported that Joseph Parker received £1.1m, with Fury receiving £750K from their bout.

In terms of currency conversion, £1.1m is roughly $1.45m (USD) using today’s exchange rate.

The New Zealand Herald quoted Parker’s purse as being $2.1m (NZD) for the Fury fight, which equates to $1.43m (USD) using today’s currency exchange rate.

The exchange rate today is obviously a little different than when Parker & Fury fought, so I quoted an approximation.

Are you quoting Parker’s initial purse that he might have earned before Fury initially withdrew from their bout (due to injury) after Duco Events won their purse bid (back in February), because his actual payday for the rearranged bout was less than the figures initially quoted?

Did Parker earn a guaranteed $1.8m (USD) against a different foe?

I also quoted Joseph Parker’s personal Twitter account when I discussed his alleged 40% purse split demands. If you'd clicked on the link, you would have seen it.

If Parker wanted to distance himself from David Higgins demands, he wouldn't have authorised that Tweet.

Also, the purse split demand stipulated in that Tweet was also corroborated during an interview that Sky Sports performed with Parker:

"Joseph Parker says he deserves fair deal to fight Anthony Joshua"

Asked about the opening offer, Parker exclusively told Sky Sports: "I feel it's a little low, but they can improve on it.

"Voluntary is 20 per cent is it? Mandatory is 30 per cent? So I think unification, it's fair to make it 40 for a unification. It comes down to negotiating and seeing where everybody is at.

"I think I do deserve that respect. I worked hard to get here and I believe that if we want to unify then we should actually do a deal that everyone is happy with."


"I never thought I would have to make some corrections" KiwiRider. Sorry, I couldn't help it! :lol:
That's fine, your my hero. I expected a concisive conclusive response. And I got it.
The stars in the night sky pale beside your illuminessence, oh illustrious one :bow:
And apart from that, your most likely correct. :OhYes:
I was trying to search stuff.co.nz and the New Zealand Herald online, to try and find where I read the figures in my now seemingly outlandish claims. But my reception keeps cutting out as I'm on a lowland muster right now :oops:
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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KiwiRider wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 21:46
Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 20:57
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 14:10
I never thought I would have to make some corrections EO.
But; it's Parker's manager making the demands, and like any negotiator- start high. Higgie is just doing his job.
And; Parker's biggest payday was 1.8 US plus a cut of PPV. I don't know the total but easily over 2 mil USD
The Express reported that Joseph Parker received £1.1m, with Fury receiving £750K from their bout.

In terms of currency conversion, £1.1m is roughly $1.45m (USD) using today’s exchange rate.

The New Zealand Herald quoted Parker’s purse as being $2.1m (NZD) for the Fury fight, which equates to $1.43m (USD) using today’s currency exchange rate.

The exchange rate today is obviously a little different than when Parker & Fury fought, so I quoted an approximation.

Are you quoting Parker’s initial purse that he might have earned before Fury initially withdrew from their bout (due to injury) after Duco Events won their purse bid (back in February), because his actual payday for the rearranged bout was less than the figures initially quoted?

Did Parker earn a guaranteed $1.8m (USD) against a different foe?

I also quoted Joseph Parker’s personal Twitter account when I discussed his alleged 40% purse split demands. If you'd clicked on the link, you would have seen it.

If Parker wanted to distance himself from David Higgins demands, he wouldn't have authorised that Tweet.

Also, the purse split demand stipulated in that Tweet was also corroborated during an interview that Sky Sports performed with Parker:

"Joseph Parker says he deserves fair deal to fight Anthony Joshua"

Asked about the opening offer, Parker exclusively told Sky Sports: "I feel it's a little low, but they can improve on it.

"Voluntary is 20 per cent is it? Mandatory is 30 per cent? So I think unification, it's fair to make it 40 for a unification. It comes down to negotiating and seeing where everybody is at.

"I think I do deserve that respect. I worked hard to get here and I believe that if we want to unify then we should actually do a deal that everyone is happy with."


"I never thought I would have to make some corrections" KiwiRider. Sorry, I couldn't help it! :lol:
That's fine, your my hero. I expected a concisive conclusive response. And I got it.
The stars in the night sky pale beside your illuminessence, oh illustrious one :bow:
And apart from that, your most likely correct. :OhYes:
I was trying to search stuff.co.nz and the New Zealand Herald online, to try and find where I read the figures in my now seemingly outlandish claims. But my reception keeps cutting out as I'm on a lowland muster right now :oops:
Sorry. I don't mean to portray myself as a know-it-all, but I've become so accustomed to people arguing with me that I nearly always fact-check the details within every single one of my posts prior to submitting them.

If this place wasn't so hostile, then I would be far less pedantic.
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 22:02
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 21:46
Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 20:57
The Express reported that Joseph Parker received £1.1m, with Fury receiving £750K from their bout.

In terms of currency conversion, £1.1m is roughly $1.45m (USD) using today’s exchange rate.

The New Zealand Herald quoted Parker’s purse as being $2.1m (NZD) for the Fury fight, which equates to $1.43m (USD) using today’s currency exchange rate.

The exchange rate today is obviously a little different than when Parker & Fury fought, so I quoted an approximation.

Are you quoting Parker’s initial purse that he might have earned before Fury initially withdrew from their bout (due to injury) after Duco Events won their purse bid (back in February), because his actual payday for the rearranged bout was less than the figures initially quoted?

Did Parker earn a guaranteed $1.8m (USD) against a different foe?

I also quoted Joseph Parker’s personal Twitter account when I discussed his alleged 40% purse split demands. If you'd clicked on the link, you would have seen it.

If Parker wanted to distance himself from David Higgins demands, he wouldn't have authorised that Tweet.

Also, the purse split demand stipulated in that Tweet was also corroborated during an interview that Sky Sports performed with Parker:

"Joseph Parker says he deserves fair deal to fight Anthony Joshua"

Asked about the opening offer, Parker exclusively told Sky Sports: "I feel it's a little low, but they can improve on it.

"Voluntary is 20 per cent is it? Mandatory is 30 per cent? So I think unification, it's fair to make it 40 for a unification. It comes down to negotiating and seeing where everybody is at.

"I think I do deserve that respect. I worked hard to get here and I believe that if we want to unify then we should actually do a deal that everyone is happy with."


"I never thought I would have to make some corrections" KiwiRider. Sorry, I couldn't help it! :lol:
That's fine, your my hero. I expected a concisive conclusive response. And I got it.
The stars in the night sky pale beside your illuminessence, oh illustrious one :bow:
And apart from that, your most likely correct. :OhYes:
I was trying to search stuff.co.nz and the New Zealand Herald online, to try and find where I read the figures in my now seemingly outlandish claims. But my reception keeps cutting out as I'm on a lowland muster right now :oops:
Sorry. I don't mean to portray myself as a know-it-all, but I've become so accustomed to people arguing with me that I nearly always fact-check the details within every single one of my posts prior to submitting them.

If this place wasn't so hostile, then I would be far less pedantic.
I don't do sarcasm in text. You got a better grip on this than I have. I like facts. I like discussion. I like learning, and I'm not adverse to being wrong- I've been married too long...
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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Duco won the initial purse bid with US$3,000,011
After Hughie got injured they renegotiated the deal and Hennesy took over promotion.

Parker was initially guaranteed 60% or 1.8mill US

I don't believe the actual numbers were ever made public for the renegotiated splits. I can't see how Parker would have taken home any less than 1.8mill whilst losing home advantage.

I think these numbers in the paper are purely speculation and the only reason they are similar is one paper probably referenced the other.
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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tiny_acres wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 18:07
BillW wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 17:03 In most professional sports, the winner would take the big and the loser take the small prize.
That's why it used to be called prize fighting.
But these days the champ wants the big prize, win or lose, he wants the home advantage and in the UK, the BBoC demand a British ref and at least one British judge.
Talk about a level playing field in sport?
I think it may be easier and more lucrative for JP to fight Povetkin in Russia.
Good point. He could as much or more fighting Povetkin.
Could he? What type of money is in the povetkin fight? Itd be easier as povetkin isn’t as tough an opponent as Joshua, but more money...?
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if pov becomes mando and they do one of those russan mega bids he could get maybe around 5m usd id guess. better chance of beatng him than aj but honestly imo pov would beat jp too if it happens in the next year or so. joe could lose to guys as miller and whyte and breazeale.
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jamamb wrote: 18 Nov 2017, 07:11 if pov becomes mando and they do one of those russan mega bids he could get maybe around 5m usd id guess. better chance of beatng him than aj but honestly imo pov would beat jp too if it happens in the next year or so. joe could lose to guys as miller and whyte and breazeale.
Fair comment re the money

I see the boxing in a similar way
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That would be an amazing fight, two boxers that have never been KOed and actually haven't even been stunned as far as I know.
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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james5000+ wrote: 18 Nov 2017, 05:42 Duco won the initial purse bid with US$3,000,011
After Hughie got injured they renegotiated the deal and Hennesy took over promotion.

Parker was initially guaranteed 60% or 1.8mill US

I don't believe the actual numbers were ever made public for the renegotiated splits. I can't see how Parker would have taken home any less than 1.8mill whilst losing home advantage.

I think these numbers in the paper are purely speculation and the only reason they are similar is one paper probably referenced the other.
I posted the actual numbers for the rescheduled Parker-Fury bout and they aren't close to your "guesstimate".
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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Enlightened-One wrote: 19 Nov 2017, 20:42
james5000+ wrote: 18 Nov 2017, 05:42 Duco won the initial purse bid with US$3,000,011
After Hughie got injured they renegotiated the deal and Hennesy took over promotion.

Parker was initially guaranteed 60% or 1.8mill US

I don't believe the actual numbers were ever made public for the renegotiated splits. I can't see how Parker would have taken home any less than 1.8mill whilst losing home advantage.

I think these numbers in the paper are purely speculation and the only reason they are similar is one paper probably referenced the other.
I posted the actual numbers for the rescheduled Parker-Fury bout and they aren't close to your "guesstimate".
You just posted a figure that a tabloid reported?
They are not the actual numbers?
Are we sure Joe didn't get more with NZ ppv upside?

I find it hard to believe he would have taken home less than he would have got having the fight on home soil.

Actually there is absolutely no way he didn't take home more, Duco are not that dumb.
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asdfjkl wrote: 19 Nov 2017, 20:27 That would be an amazing fight, two boxers that have never been KOed and actually haven't even been stunned as far as I know.
Did you erase the knockdown against Klitschko from your memory?
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ewenhay wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 17:15
asdfjkl wrote: 19 Nov 2017, 20:27 That would be an amazing fight, two boxers that have never been KOed and actually haven't even been stunned as far as I know.
Did you erase the knockdown against Klitschko from your memory?
You mean the push? Povetkin obviously was completely aware of what was going on from start to end.
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asdfjkl wrote: 19 Nov 2017, 20:27 That would be an amazing fight, two boxers that have never been KOed and actually haven't even been stunned as far as I know.
Kali Mehan buckled Parker's knees once and Takem had him buzzed for a few seconds but he has not yet suffered a knockdown as far as I know. But he also has not faced the guys who can really bang. Mehan was about 3 years past prime when he faced Parker- I'm not sure if that has relevance to his power or not. Parker said he hit hard.
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asdfjkl wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 22:16
ewenhay wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 17:15
asdfjkl wrote: 19 Nov 2017, 20:27 That would be an amazing fight, two boxers that have never been KOed and actually haven't even been stunned as far as I know.
Did you erase the knockdown against Klitschko from your memory?
You mean the push? Povetkin obviously was completely aware of what was going on from start to end.
All 7 times he met the canvas :TU:
https://youtu.be/gYrHqpTXCAI
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bigman1968 wrote: 22 Nov 2017, 07:29
asdfjkl wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 22:16
ewenhay wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 17:15

Did you erase the knockdown against Klitschko from your memory?
You mean the push? Povetkin obviously was completely aware of what was going on from start to end.
All 7 times he met the canvas :TU:
https://youtu.be/gYrHqpTXCAI
Worst case of climching, wrestling and dirty tactics in any Klitschko fight.
The ref sucked. Klit should of been disqualified
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bigman1968 wrote: 22 Nov 2017, 07:29
asdfjkl wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 22:16
ewenhay wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 17:15 Did you erase the knockdown against Klitschko from your memory?
You mean the push? Povetkin obviously was completely aware of what was going on from start to end.
All 7 times he met the canvas :TU:
https://youtu.be/gYrHqpTXCAI
That's probably the reason why guys like Wilder are still scared of both of them. The cheater eventually received a warning for his pushing and cheating, and lost all of his rounds since that moment, but let's be honest, Klitschko should have been disqualified that match. I still fully undertand Wilder ducked Klitschko all his life, Wilder became rich with his political bullshit tricks.
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tiny_acres wrote: 22 Nov 2017, 09:29
bigman1968 wrote: 22 Nov 2017, 07:29
asdfjkl wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 22:16
You mean the push? Povetkin obviously was completely aware of what was going on from start to end.
All 7 times he met the canvas :TU:
https://youtu.be/gYrHqpTXCAI
Worst case of climching, wrestling and dirty tactics in any Klitschko fight.
The ref sucked. Klit should of been disqualified
Poor Klitchko had to prevent that bum Povetkin from falling for 12 rounds!!! After 7th he really stopped hitting him, since everything he throw landed and Povetkin hardly kept the standing position :bag:
VK was kind enough not to KO him at his homeland capital :salut:
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Parker is calling Joshua greedy, what does Parker bring to the table financially wise? Having a title means he should earn more than say Takam, but not 35/40% of a pot he'll be doing nothing to boost. If Parker ain't greedy he'll take a career high purse and be happy with getting knocked out.
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Re: Joshua v Parker for March

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higgs88 wrote: 22 Nov 2017, 12:37 Parker is calling Joshua greedy, what does Parker bring to the table financially wise? Having a title means he should earn more than say Takam, but not 35/40% of a pot he'll be doing nothing to boost. If Parker ain't greedy he'll take a career high purse and be happy with getting knocked out.
Main reason Parker deserves 35%.. He has what Joshua wants. A title. Joshua said he's going to unify all the belts well he needs Parker to do it. Pay the man
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