Joshua - ‘superior black race’

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Re: Joshua - ‘superior black race’

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thechump wrote: 19 Nov 2017, 04:24
tigermoth87 wrote: 19 Nov 2017, 03:31
thechump wrote: 18 Nov 2017, 19:10

Blacks have only had about 50 years of being able to use the same bathroom as a white person or even go into a "white" cafe,im sure whites have said worse to a black man's face in the previous 500+ years and blacks just had to get on with it. I think us whites need to adopt abit more thicker skin than some of us have now.

It wasn't just racist towards whites, son.

By saying "superior black race" he's also saying blacks are superior to Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, Indians etc. I'm Asian (Vietnamese) and found it racist.

If it was Fury saying it he'd be crucified. Actually if Khan said it about Muslims been superior he'd be crucified.

Typical of the double standards though where black racists get a pass.
Listen son,racism is racism i never categorised it as only to whites i was just giving my opinion on why maybe he said it,if you listen to some american blacks they go on about what happened to them so im just thinking maybe he is thinking the same.

I agree with everyone on here about fury,if fury had said the same the media would of been on it like a tramp on a bag of chips
American blacks need to shut their fûcking mouths. If they want to see real racism they can go back to Africa and get persecuted due to the tribe they descend from and live in utter poverty. They have amazing opportunities nowadays.

When the first white settlers got to Africa, the Zulus were ravaging the place and wiping out all the other tribes. The Arabs had already been enslaving the Africans for centuries and indeed still enslave the Indians and philipinos who run their horribly unsustainable cities in the desert. I’m not justifying it but the British were instrumental in ending the transatlantic slave trade. As far as I know, we have not participated in slavery for a long time. In stark contrast to many other races, who don’t seem to get beaten by the racism stick.

Since we gave back control of Arican nations to the natives, what’s happened?
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lillywhite14 wrote: 19 Nov 2017, 18:04 What pisses people off is the double standards. People making excuses for one or the other isn’t the issue here, fanboys exist for everything these days. It’s the reaction in the media that tells us all we need to know.
The only thing I’ve seen about it is in the Star and they word it in a way where they take a pop at Fury for pulling Joshua up on his racist remark! Couldn’t make it up. :lol:

Bottom line is, if Fury said ‘superior white race’ he’d be destroyed ( again )

I like both fighters but absolutely want Fury back to beat him just to see the reaction in the media.
Imagine the headlines “white race superior after heavyweight clash”. Nobody would bat an eyelid.
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Re: Joshua - ‘superior black race’

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Tomasino wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 05:55 American blacks need to shut their fûcking mouths. If they want to see real racism they can go back to Africa and get persecuted due to the tribe they descend from and live in utter poverty. They have amazing opportunities nowadays.

When the first white settlers got to Africa, the Zulus were ravaging the place and wiping out all the other tribes. The Arabs had already been enslaving the Africans for centuries and indeed still enslave the Indians and philipinos who run their horribly unsustainable cities in the desert. I’m not justifying it but the British were instrumental in ending the transatlantic slave trade. As far as I know, we have not participated in slavery for a long time. In stark contrast to many other races, who don’t seem to get beaten by the racism stick.

Since we gave back control of Arican nations to the natives, what’s happened?
We never gave power back to the natives, instead we created this illusion by installing local despots who were willing to work with us.
Of course some of these despots outgrew their use and got too big for their boots, but don't ever think the natives had power, they didn't even receive the charity donations from Band Aid
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So the mainstream media predictably stayed away. They don’t change - remember how quiet they were after Warren didn’t pay Calzaghe for the Hopkins fight after moving all his assets from one company to another.

How many of us have said something in private that should always remain private? Probably all of us. It’s cretinous to share private things in public. It probably would be easy to shame anyone for a week if the wrong comment got out.

Going by the many posters on here regarding their fantasy of AJ and Khan’s wife, many people on here are guilty of racial stereotyping him as the superior black man already - big dick splitting smaller women in pieces - and are barely private about it.

So Eddie Hearn said the comment was fake, and now the story is Joshua’s account was hacked! Hahahaha. Own it, cowards.

Heavyweight-specific, Black heavyweights do not like to lose to white ones, because since Marciano there hasn’t been a great white heavyweight and since Quarry there hasn’t been a consistently good one. (Until the K2 brothers). Maybe this bias kind of comes from the Lennox Lewis wish to not lose to a white heavyweight (Golota) because of the notion of the horizontal white heavyweight - and has come out all twisted?

Joshua didn’t look so superior versus Takam and he showed stamina problems versus Wlad in his ‘40s. I excuse this latter because he’d been dropped by one of the best shots Wlad ever three. and many - but not me - would pick the Wlad of five years ago, or a prime Vitali, to clown him.
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Re: Joshua - ‘superior black race’

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Wlad wasn't a great heavyweight?
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Re: Joshua - ‘superior black race’

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All and all if a white person had said that they would have been fucked.
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Re: Joshua - ‘superior black race’

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They would be f*cked yea

This is all double standards
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Re: Joshua - ‘superior black race’

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mickey1975 wrote: 23 Nov 2017, 06:00 Wlad wasn't a great heavyweight?
ok, he and his brother were very successful. An oversight by myself. I will fix it.
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Wlad wasn't everyone's cup of tea but he was a great and well schooled fighter
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True, their success merits Hall of Fame induction. Plus they are among the most successful boxer brothers, along with Michael and Leon Spinks and Juan Manuel and Rafael Marquez. So obviously they don’t fit the horizontal white heavyweight stereotype- although Wlad had his moments (vs Ross Puritty, Lamon Brewster & Corrie Sanders) in an otherwise long and successful career.

So can we get back to Joshua’s superior race now?
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Re: Joshua - ‘superior black race’

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Tomasino wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 05:55
thechump wrote: 19 Nov 2017, 04:24
tigermoth87 wrote: 19 Nov 2017, 03:31


It wasn't just racist towards whites, son.

By saying "superior black race" he's also saying blacks are superior to Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, Indians etc. I'm Asian (Vietnamese) and found it racist.

If it was Fury saying it he'd be crucified. Actually if Khan said it about Muslims been superior he'd be crucified.

Typical of the double standards though where black racists get a pass.
Listen son,racism is racism i never categorised it as only to whites i was just giving my opinion on why maybe he said it,if you listen to some american blacks they go on about what happened to them so im just thinking maybe he is thinking the same.

I agree with everyone on here about fury,if fury had said the same the media would of been on it like a tramp on a bag of chips
American blacks need to shut their fûcking mouths. If they want to see real racism they can go back to Africa and get persecuted due to the tribe they descend from and live in utter poverty. They have amazing opportunities nowadays.

When the first white settlers got to Africa, the Zulus were ravaging the place and wiping out all the other tribes. The Arabs had already been enslaving the Africans for centuries and indeed still enslave the Indians and philipinos who run their horribly unsustainable cities in the desert. I’m not justifying it but the British were instrumental in ending the transatlantic slave trade. As far as I know, we have not participated in slavery for a long time. In stark contrast to many other races, who don’t seem to get beaten by the racism stick.

Since we gave back control of Arican nations to the natives, what’s happened?
You're simply a racist twat, nothing more
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Re: Joshua - ‘superior black race’

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I think the world is ready for the "Race" games. We can just call it the "Continental" games
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People on this forum make me laugh. When I want a history lesson on race relation, I won't be logging in to boxrec or asking a boxer for it
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danconnollyeire wrote: 23 Nov 2017, 12:10 People on this forum make me laugh. When I want a history lesson on race relation, I won't be logging in to boxrec or asking a boxer for it

:lol:
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Re: Joshua - ‘superior black race’

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danconnollyeire wrote: 23 Nov 2017, 08:32
Tomasino wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 05:55
thechump wrote: 19 Nov 2017, 04:24

Listen son,racism is racism i never categorised it as only to whites i was just giving my opinion on why maybe he said it,if you listen to some american blacks they go on about what happened to them so im just thinking maybe he is thinking the same.

I agree with everyone on here about fury,if fury had said the same the media would of been on it like a tramp on a bag of chips
American blacks need to shut their fûcking mouths. If they want to see real racism they can go back to Africa and get persecuted due to the tribe they descend from and live in utter poverty. They have amazing opportunities nowadays.

When the first white settlers got to Africa, the Zulus were ravaging the place and wiping out all the other tribes. The Arabs had already been enslaving the Africans for centuries and indeed still enslave the Indians and philipinos who run their horribly unsustainable cities in the desert. I’m not justifying it but the British were instrumental in ending the transatlantic slave trade. As far as I know, we have not participated in slavery for a long time. In stark contrast to many other races, who don’t seem to get beaten by the racism stick.

Since we gave back control of Arican nations to the natives, what’s happened?
You're simply a racist twat, nothing more
Why? Because I’m more concerned by the currently enslaved than by the previously enslaved? Grow up
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Can't manage to read the whole thread... What's the conclusion? Did he say it or not?
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Ezzard wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 04:47 Can't manage to read the whole thread... What's the conclusion? Did he say it or not?
Official matchroom line is that he was hacked, obviously we can draw our own conclusions from that.
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first claimed a fake account, then a hack was claimed after chambers showed the vid of the message directing to ajs official page
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Re: Joshua - ‘superior black race’

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Coco wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 07:34
Tomasino wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 05:55 American blacks need to shut their fûcking mouths. If they want to see real racism they can go back to Africa and get persecuted due to the tribe they descend from and live in utter poverty. They have amazing opportunities nowadays.

When the first white settlers got to Africa, the Zulus were ravaging the place and wiping out all the other tribes. The Arabs had already been enslaving the Africans for centuries and indeed still enslave the Indians and philipinos who run their horribly unsustainable cities in the desert. I’m not justifying it but the British were instrumental in ending the transatlantic slave trade. As far as I know, we have not participated in slavery for a long time. In stark contrast to many other races, who don’t seem to get beaten by the racism stick.

Since we gave back control of Arican nations to the natives, what’s happened?
We never gave power back to the natives, instead we created this illusion by installing local despots who were willing to work with us.
Of course some of these despots outgrew their use and got too big for their boots, but don't ever think the natives had power, they didn't even receive the charity donations from Band Aid
:clap:
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Re: Joshua - ‘superior black race’

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Tomasino wrote: 23 Nov 2017, 14:15
danconnollyeire wrote: 23 Nov 2017, 08:32
Tomasino wrote: 20 Nov 2017, 05:55

American blacks need to shut their fûcking mouths. If they want to see real racism they can go back to Africa and get persecuted due to the tribe they descend from and live in utter poverty. They have amazing opportunities nowadays.

When the first white settlers got to Africa, the Zulus were ravaging the place and wiping out all the other tribes. The Arabs had already been enslaving the Africans for centuries and indeed still enslave the Indians and philipinos who run their horribly unsustainable cities in the desert. I’m not justifying it but the British were instrumental in ending the transatlantic slave trade. As far as I know, we have not participated in slavery for a long time. In stark contrast to many other races, who don’t seem to get beaten by the racism stick.

Since we gave back control of Arican nations to the natives, what’s happened?
You're simply a racist twat, nothing more
Why? Because I’m more concerned by the currently enslaved than by the previously enslaved? Grow up
Well thank you, I'm sure you're masters in slavery and years visiting countries affect and the relief work you've conducted is what makes you an expert. That the problem with racist morons, they all think they're experts. I'll go to experts for expertise thanks. You've literally shouting nonsense you've made up. I bet you've never even been to Africa, you idiot

And using phrases like 'black americans need to...' is out and out racist. You're lumping a group of people in to a stereotype but unfortunately, you're far too stupid to realise what racism/discrimination is. I mean, what the fvck are you even on about? It's a discussion about AJ's comments and you're having a go at African-American's? What on God's earth are you smoking?
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danconnollyeire wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 06:08
Tomasino wrote: 23 Nov 2017, 14:15
danconnollyeire wrote: 23 Nov 2017, 08:32

You're simply a racist twat, nothing more
Why? Because I’m more concerned by the currently enslaved than by the previously enslaved? Grow up
Well thank you, I'm sure you're masters in slavery and years visiting countries affect and the relief work you've conducted is what makes you an expert. That the problem with racist morons, they all think they're experts. I'll go to experts for expertise thanks. You've literally shouting nonsense you've made up. I bet you've never even been to Africa, you idiot

If I thought you had more than £1 to your name I’d take you up on that bet and bankrupt you. I’m not shouting either, I typed. Spastic.
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Tomasino wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 06:10
danconnollyeire wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 06:08
Tomasino wrote: 23 Nov 2017, 14:15

Why? Because I’m more concerned by the currently enslaved than by the previously enslaved? Grow up
Well thank you, I'm sure you're masters in slavery and years visiting countries affect and the relief work you've conducted is what makes you an expert. That the problem with racist morons, they all think they're experts. I'll go to experts for expertise thanks. You've literally shouting nonsense you've made up. I bet you've never even been to Africa, you idiot

If I thought you had more than £1 to your name I’d take you up on that bet and bankrupt you. I’m not shouting either, I typed. Spastic.
You're 7 right?
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danconnollyeire wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 06:11
Tomasino wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 06:10
danconnollyeire wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 06:08

Well thank you, I'm sure you're masters in slavery and years visiting countries affect and the relief work you've conducted is what makes you an expert. That the problem with racist morons, they all think they're experts. I'll go to experts for expertise thanks. You've literally shouting nonsense you've made up. I bet you've never even been to Africa, you idiot

If I thought you had more than £1 to your name I’d take you up on that bet and bankrupt you. I’m not shouting either, I typed. Spastic.
You're 7 right?
I edited the previous comment with added simplicity FYI
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danconnollyeire wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 06:12
danconnollyeire wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 06:11
Tomasino wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 06:10


If I thought you had more than £1 to your name I’d take you up on that bet and bankrupt you. I’m not shouting either, I typed. Spastic.
You're 7 right?
I edited the previous comment with added simplicity FYI
What’s wrong with you Danny boy? Did you get prison raped off a black man?
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Tomasino wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 06:13
danconnollyeire wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 06:12
danconnollyeire wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 06:11

You're 7 right?
I edited the previous comment with added simplicity FYI
What’s wrong with you Danny boy? Did you get prison raped off a black man?
No, I see blokes from Watford and start jibbering about black American's because I'm literally, completely insane
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