Cyclone / Frampton Court Case

[sweetscience]

just seen it on Twitter that Cyclone suing Frampton

[Boxerbeetle]

Yeah I saw that yesterday. Shame.

[jamamb]

òooo, drama

[Coco]

Unfortunately this was predictable long before they split.
I seen its Blain and the company suing Frampton.
Technically Barry has nothing to do with it.

[broomy7s]

Hope Carl ends them.

[Oiky]

War Frampton

[TheLeprechaun]

Wonder what its all really about.

Usually there is something personal behind these things. Maybe a comment that went down the wrong way or something

[chrisnew86]

Shame that....

What a joke, after the fighters dosh

[liamlion]

Barry has been here before many many years ago.

A real shame.

[handsofstone]

Seen Paddy Barnes and Tyrone McKenna on twitter having a go at the McGuigan's calling them rats so they must know something about whats going on and i'd imagine it must be bad to get involved themselves

[Noxy]

Barry has been here before many many years ago.

A real shame.

Aye, it reminds me of his court case.

[3132DW]

Seen Paddy Barnes and Tyrone McKenna on twitter having a go at the McGuigan's calling them rats so they must know something about whats going on and i'd imagine it must be bad to get involved themselves

Paddy Barnes has always hated the McGuigans from Day 1 so that’s nothing to do with this - he’s always had real go at them long before this fall out.

Don’t know what happened/said but he’s always made digs at them constantly.

[3132DW]

Wonder what its all really about.

Usually there is something personal behind these things. Maybe a comment that went down the wrong way or something

Probably a bit like Ricky Burns and FW - one still had a contract with x amount of fights to come and despite said individual not paying him the full amount he won the case because he broke the contract.

On the other side the fighter sued - won and company was put into admin - I can see exact same thing happening here as well.

[Coco]

I wonder if Barry will get a win this time!

Nevertheless him and his family must have earned big off Frampton. There were millions earned against Cruz and Quigg, Barry was on 25%, Shane 10%, cyclone were given a promotional cut from the Quigg fight too.

Also weren't there complaints that Barry hadn't paid him too?

[3132DW]

I wonder if Barry will get a win this time!

Nevertheless him and his family must have earned big off Frampton. There were millions earned against Cruz and Quigg, Barry was on 25%, Shane 10%, cyclone were given a promotional cut from the Quigg fight too.

Also weren't there complaints that Barry hadn't paid him too?

Quigg said to Frampton you got bigger share of kitty and I’ll still earn more than you.

Santa Cruz rematch was 1m (US) - but take all the cuts above - expenses etc....tax and the like he wouldn’t be left huge sum.

Even say 1.5m for Quigg - take all that off above - fair chunk.

He was their meal ticket.

[Andrew]

I wonder if Barry will get a win this time!

Nevertheless him and his family must have earned big off Frampton. There were millions earned against Cruz and Quigg, Barry was on 25%, Shane 10%, cyclone were given a promotional cut from the Quigg fight too.

Also weren't there complaints that Barry hadn't paid him too?

Quigg said to Frampton you got bigger share of kitty and I’ll still earn more than you.

Santa Cruz rematch was 1m (US) - but take all the cuts above - expenses etc....tax and the like he wouldn’t be left huge sum.

Even say 1.5m for Quigg - take all that off above - fair chunk.

He was their meal ticket.

If I'm not mistaken Quigg was self managed when that fight happened and he currently is.

[3132DW]

I wonder if Barry will get a win this time!

Nevertheless him and his family must have earned big off Frampton. There were millions earned against Cruz and Quigg, Barry was on 25%, Shane 10%, cyclone were given a promotional cut from the Quigg fight too.

Also weren't there complaints that Barry hadn't paid him too?

Quigg said to Frampton you got bigger share of kitty and I’ll still earn more than you.

Santa Cruz rematch was 1m (US) - but take all the cuts above - expenses etc....tax and the like he wouldn’t be left huge sum.

Even say 1.5m for Quigg - take all that off above - fair chunk.

He was their meal ticket.

If I'm not mistaken Quigg was self managed when that fight happened and he currently is.

Yeah just Quigg and his Lawyer that’s all he’s ever used.

Makes sense if you trust lawyer and know the market your in - if you think you can negotiate for yourself properly why give a cut away.

[ewenhay]

Quigg isn't as daft as people seem to think he is then

[Ruthless-RKO]

Barry McGuigan had boxer Carl Frampton on 'slave contract', court hears

Irish boxing legend Barry McGuigan allegedly breached his managerial duties to boxer Carl Frampton by signing him up to a "slave contract", Belfast High Court heard yesterday.

Financial arrangements were kept secret from the fighter entrusting his career to someone who persuaded him he was "like a fourth son", it was claimed.

Mr Frampton, (33), a former two-weight world champion from Belfast, is suing his ex-manager for alleged withheld earnings, but Mr McGuigan's lawyers disputed the truthfulness of the allegations made against him and categorically denied them.

The multi-million pound lawsuit centres on contracts for bouts staged in Northern Ireland, England and the United States.

It involves claims against Cyclone Promotions UK Ltd - of which Mr McGuigan was a director - over purse fees, broadcasting rights, ticket sales and merchandising from some of Mr Frampton's highest-profile fights.

Opening the case for Mr Frampton, Gavin Millar QC described how his client, then aged 22, went to live and train with Mr McGuigan's family in Kent. "He persuaded Mr Frampton that he was like a fourth son to him," the barrister said. However, the court heard that by 2016 the once-close relationship began to break down amid concerns over the financial arrangements.

A year later, in October 2017, Mr Frampton formally split with Cyclone.

"The lines are blurred," Mr Millar contended.

"To use the memorial words of Barry McGuigan's memoir, it's pretty much a slave contract with all the rights to promote Mr Frampton's career for three years being signed away on the spot by the boxer," he said.

[Ruthless-RKO]

What's a slave contract in boxing?

[mickey1975]

Boxers do get stitched up, a lot.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Matchroom split and Cyclone contract details discussed in Frampton McGuigan legal battle

Details of with regard to Carl Frampton’s 2013 split from Matchroom have come out during legal proceedings between the three weight world title hopeful and former manager Barry McGuigan.

Just as he was gaining serious momentum under Matchroom in Belfast and developing toward serious stardom, Frampton and McGuigan confirmed they were going it alone.

Cyclone Promotions was established and the then future world champion was to work alongside former world champion in promoting himself.

Matchroom boss Hearn, who Frampton claims showed a real lack of love during their time together, says he instigated the split because he didn’t want to share promotional duties with McGuigan.

Frampton has since split from Cyclone Promotions and is suing his fellow Irish fight legend for alleged withheld earnings – although Mr McGuigan’s lawyers disputed the truthfulness of the allegations made against him and categorically denied them.

During day one proceedings details of that infamous Matchroom split and Cylcone’s birth came out.

The court and Mr Justice Huddleston was told a Northern Ireland-based Cyclone company was set up in 2013 and Frampton was named a director.

It was claimed that McGuigan promised Frampton a 30% share of the promotional companies profits as an incentive to end a previous promotional arrangement with Matchroom.

So effectively Frampton would have serious input over his career and have a cut of all profits made from Cyclone Promotions. It seems an ideal scenario particularly if he was being paid fight purses too. However, as current court proceedings suggest things didn’t work out.

“He believed what Barry McGuigan was saying to him was true, and the advice Barry McGuigan was giving at this key stage in his career as an experienced boxing man to walk away from Matchroom and promote his own fights was correct,” a lawyer for Frampton said.

“It’s now clear that my client was mistaken.”

Counsel for Frampton pointed to a ‘strange twist’ in 2015, claiming the Belfast favourite was presented with a new contract which involved exclusive world-wide promotions rights for Frampton’s fight.

Frampton made his American debut in 2015 against the late Alejandro Gonzalez Jr.

“To use the memorial words of Barry McGuigan’s memoir, it’s pretty much a slave contract with all the rights to promote Mr Frampton’s career for three years being signed away on the spot by the boxer,” Frampton’s representative continued.

The relationship between the pair deteriorated further, when an attempt was to made to claim £75,000 worth expenses was made by the McGuigan family and associates – and the split eventually came around in 2017.

Liam McCollum QC, representing McGuigan said: “Who is telling the truth, that is what it is going to be about, and Mr Frampton, on the basis of the case opened and pleaded, is most certainly not if he gives evidence.”

[TopGun]

You often here in the boxing world that Barry loves a pound note more than most!

[Wee Tommy]

Seen Paddy Barnes and Tyrone McKenna on twitter having a go at the McGuigan's calling them rats so they must know something about whats going on and i'd imagine it must be bad to get involved themselves

Never ever heard a good word about Barry in recent years.

[mickey1975]

Seen Paddy Barnes and Tyrone McKenna on twitter having a go at the McGuigan's calling them rats so they must know something about whats going on and i'd imagine it must be bad to get involved themselves

Never ever heard a good word about Barry in recent years.

He was ignorant when I met him. Just plain rude.