As previously reported..
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=217007
Sergiy Derevyanchenko’s manager hit out at Andrade..
Now..
Matt Rowland of Banner Promotions, who promote Andrade, wanted to clear the air.
"It's a fight that we'll definitely make. Derevyanchenko's not that good. He's right in front of you, he's tailor made for Demetrius - it's the perfect fight for Demetrius. We didn't turn down the fight," Rowland told BS.com.
Rowland countered the claims of Derevyancheko's manager:
"Connolly says that negotiating in October... well, we didn't find out about this fight from Peter Nelson (Executive V.P. of HBO Sports) till the second week of November and we were already told by HBO that there was no fight for Demetrius till the first quarter of next year.
"We still tried to make the fight, Lou (DiBella, the promoter of Derevyanchenko) I guess was having trouble with Connolly. They were saying there was a management dispute, promotional dispute. I didn't really know but I guess they worked it out."
Rowland makes it clear - "Our goal was to try to make that fight the first quarter of 2018."
And he believes this potential match-up can be salvaged.
"Yeah, I think so," says Rowland. "Because listen, we only knew about the fight four weeks before the scheduled date. Even HBO was in agreement that it was just too crazy. So if we actually pulled out like Connolly says, like we did something terrible like he said - why isn't his guy fighting December 16th?"
Andrade Promoter: Derevyanchenko Not That Good, Tailor-Made!
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Re: Andrade Promoter: Derevyanchenko Not That Good, Tailor-Made!
It really doesn't matter whether Demetrius Andrade is capable of beating Sergiy Derevyanchenko, or what his manager claims, the fact remains is that the American keeps rejecting opportunities to face some of the biggest named rivals.
He has a proven track record of doing this regularly.
He has a proven track record of doing this regularly.
Re: Andrade Promoter: Derevyanchenko Not That Good, Tailor-Made!
Derevyanchenko would've beaten him. Needs to keep fighting the Culcays if he's going to be running from so many opponents.
Re: Andrade Promoter: Derevyanchenko Not That Good, Tailor-Made!
Glad to hear Andrade is willing to take the fight, but with proper notice. They pulled the same thing with Charlo, offering Andrade the fight with about 3 weeks notice in December a year or two back. Andrade signed to fight in January, but it was Charlo in the end that didn't want the fight, and fought Vanes M. instead. There was something screwy about the Korobov fight too, and Andrade declined to move up.
So, maybe Andrade isn't such a ducker after all....more of a victim of poor management.
So, maybe Andrade isn't such a ducker after all....more of a victim of poor management.
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Re: Andrade Promoter: Derevyanchenko Not That Good, Tailor-Made!
Derevyanchenko: Let's See if Andrade Will Fight - Or is He Scared?
http://www.BS.com/derevyanchen ... ed--123707
According to the Eastern Euro fighter, Andrade was unwilling to go forward - citing that he wasn't given enough time to prepare.
"I was very disappointed when the Demetrius Andrade fight fell apart for December 16, because I had the same amount of time to get ready as he did and I accepted all the terms because I am a fighter and I'm willing to fight anybody, anytime, anywhere,” Derevyanchenko told me through an interpreter, for BS.com.
"We will see in the next month or so if we can remake the fight for sometime in the first few months of the year and we will see if Demetrius will really fight me or if he is scared!”
And if the 25-0 Rhode Islander Andrade wants to opt for another challenge?
“If he does not want to fight me I will depend on my two managers, Keith Connolly and Al Haymon and my promoter Lou DiBella to secure the best opportunity out there for me. I am expecting 2018 to be my big year in boxing," Derevyanchenko said.
http://www.BS.com/derevyanchen ... ed--123707
According to the Eastern Euro fighter, Andrade was unwilling to go forward - citing that he wasn't given enough time to prepare.
"I was very disappointed when the Demetrius Andrade fight fell apart for December 16, because I had the same amount of time to get ready as he did and I accepted all the terms because I am a fighter and I'm willing to fight anybody, anytime, anywhere,” Derevyanchenko told me through an interpreter, for BS.com.
"We will see in the next month or so if we can remake the fight for sometime in the first few months of the year and we will see if Demetrius will really fight me or if he is scared!”
And if the 25-0 Rhode Islander Andrade wants to opt for another challenge?
“If he does not want to fight me I will depend on my two managers, Keith Connolly and Al Haymon and my promoter Lou DiBella to secure the best opportunity out there for me. I am expecting 2018 to be my big year in boxing," Derevyanchenko said.
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Re: Andrade Promoter: Derevyanchenko Not That Good, Tailor-Made!
Vanes was also tailor made, but their fight was very close. Derevo is better than Vanes.
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If you saw the fight, it wasn't all that close. Vanes scored a flash KD, catching Andrade off balance, but was a clear loser in the fight landing 100+ less punches.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑24 Dec 2017, 12:22 Vanes was also tailor made, but their fight was very close. Derevo is better than Vanes.
I have been high on Andrade, but he has to prove himself soon.
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Re: Andrade Promoter: Derevyanchenko Not That Good, Tailor-Made!
Promoter: Andrade Accepted, Derevyanchenko's Side Didn’t Want It
Artie Pelullo, Andrade’s co-promoter, made it clear, though, that the undefeated southpaw still is very much willing to face another unbeaten middleweight. Pelullo told BS.com that it was Sergiy Derevyanchenko’s handlers, not Andrade’s side, that didn’t want that intriguing middleweight fight when HBO Sports’ Peter Nelson offered it a second time for some time within the first quarter of 2018.
Ukraine’s Derevyanchenko is promoted by Lou DiBella and managed by Keith Connolly.
The overall package HBO first offered for Andrade-Derevyanchenko was $800,000, which would’ve been split equally among the two teams had they fought December 16 in Laval, Quebec, as part of the Billy Joe Saunders-David Lemieux undercard. HBO’s second offer was for a total of $500,000, which means each side would’ve had to take $150,000 less for a fight that would’ve been placed on an unspecified undercard.
Philadelphia’s Pelullo disputes, too, that Andrade (25-0, 16 KOs) wasn’t willing to fight Derevyanchenko (12-0, 10 KOs) when the fight first was offered late last fall.
Andrade wasn’t training, Pellulo said, because Nelson informed him following Andrade’s 12-round victory over Alantrez Fox on October 21 that there wouldn’t be another HBO bout available for the 2008 Olympian for the remainder of 2017. Andrade, of Providence, Rhode Island, also spent time in the Atlanta area after the Fox fight with his high school football coach, who died of cancer.
“So then Peter comes back says, ‘You want the fight? There’s only $500,000 in the fight,’ ” Pelullo said, referring to the second offer for the first quarter of 2018. “I said, ‘No problem. We’ll take the fight.’ Lou couldn’t deliver [Derevyanchenko] because Connolly would not take the fight [for less money]. … I called Andrade and he said, ‘Yes, take the fight.’
“Andrade didn’t turn down the fight [the first time] because of the money. Andrade didn’t have the opportunity to be in the gym. And that’s why we turned down the fight. We took the fight the next time around, when we would only get $250,000 for our side. When it came around for $300,000 less [overall], we still took it.”
Pelullo also stated that a dispute between DiBella and Connolly was a factor in the Andrade-Derevyanchenko fight not materializing the first time around.
“Right after Andrade fought Fox, Peter at HBO said that there was nothing for [Andrade] until after the new year,”
Pelullo said. “Andrade gets out of the gym and goes down to Atlanta to see a high school football coach, who was dying of cancer. Three weeks later, Peter said that there might be this fight with Derevyanchenko. Andrade [wasn’t] in the gym and he [couldn’t] take the fight. This was after Peter told us there was no fight between that October fight and the end of the year. So Andrade thought he was not fighting, and that’s why he wasn’t in the gym.
“So then, three weeks after that, we hear from Peter that there might be a fight with Derevyanchenko. We go back and forth, and Lou, he can’t deliver Derevyanchenko. Lou was fighting with the manager over control of the fighter and who could talk to HBO.”
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DiBella doesn’t think Andrade’s team truly wanted the fight.
“That’s got nothing to do with why the fight didn’t happen,” DiBella said regarding any acrimony among Derevyanchenko’s handlers. “I never believed they wanted the fight, frankly. I called Peter Nelson to tell him we were in [for December 16] within the deadline we were given to work everything out. I got a text back that said Andrade was available. Then, five minutes later, Artie called me and told me that Andrade wasn’t available. That was for December. That’s what happened then. The money for them to fight in December was fine.
“And then the offer was reduced by three-eighths this year, and it was never offered for a particular date. It was like, ‘Well, if we’re gonna do the fight, this is what we have in the pot.’ We were never told, ‘Here’s the time, date and place.’ It’s also very difficult when you’ve made a deal with a fighter at a certain number, to reduce that total pot by three-eighths and think that it’s gonna be easy to close the deal. But that being said, there wasn’t even a firm date or place discussed.”
Their disagreement aside, Pelullo and DiBella are willing to revisit negotiations for an Andrade-Derevyanchenko fight.
Artie Pelullo, Andrade’s co-promoter, made it clear, though, that the undefeated southpaw still is very much willing to face another unbeaten middleweight. Pelullo told BS.com that it was Sergiy Derevyanchenko’s handlers, not Andrade’s side, that didn’t want that intriguing middleweight fight when HBO Sports’ Peter Nelson offered it a second time for some time within the first quarter of 2018.
Ukraine’s Derevyanchenko is promoted by Lou DiBella and managed by Keith Connolly.
The overall package HBO first offered for Andrade-Derevyanchenko was $800,000, which would’ve been split equally among the two teams had they fought December 16 in Laval, Quebec, as part of the Billy Joe Saunders-David Lemieux undercard. HBO’s second offer was for a total of $500,000, which means each side would’ve had to take $150,000 less for a fight that would’ve been placed on an unspecified undercard.
Philadelphia’s Pelullo disputes, too, that Andrade (25-0, 16 KOs) wasn’t willing to fight Derevyanchenko (12-0, 10 KOs) when the fight first was offered late last fall.
Andrade wasn’t training, Pellulo said, because Nelson informed him following Andrade’s 12-round victory over Alantrez Fox on October 21 that there wouldn’t be another HBO bout available for the 2008 Olympian for the remainder of 2017. Andrade, of Providence, Rhode Island, also spent time in the Atlanta area after the Fox fight with his high school football coach, who died of cancer.
“So then Peter comes back says, ‘You want the fight? There’s only $500,000 in the fight,’ ” Pelullo said, referring to the second offer for the first quarter of 2018. “I said, ‘No problem. We’ll take the fight.’ Lou couldn’t deliver [Derevyanchenko] because Connolly would not take the fight [for less money]. … I called Andrade and he said, ‘Yes, take the fight.’
“Andrade didn’t turn down the fight [the first time] because of the money. Andrade didn’t have the opportunity to be in the gym. And that’s why we turned down the fight. We took the fight the next time around, when we would only get $250,000 for our side. When it came around for $300,000 less [overall], we still took it.”
Pelullo also stated that a dispute between DiBella and Connolly was a factor in the Andrade-Derevyanchenko fight not materializing the first time around.
“Right after Andrade fought Fox, Peter at HBO said that there was nothing for [Andrade] until after the new year,”
Pelullo said. “Andrade gets out of the gym and goes down to Atlanta to see a high school football coach, who was dying of cancer. Three weeks later, Peter said that there might be this fight with Derevyanchenko. Andrade [wasn’t] in the gym and he [couldn’t] take the fight. This was after Peter told us there was no fight between that October fight and the end of the year. So Andrade thought he was not fighting, and that’s why he wasn’t in the gym.
“So then, three weeks after that, we hear from Peter that there might be a fight with Derevyanchenko. We go back and forth, and Lou, he can’t deliver Derevyanchenko. Lou was fighting with the manager over control of the fighter and who could talk to HBO.”
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DiBella doesn’t think Andrade’s team truly wanted the fight.
“That’s got nothing to do with why the fight didn’t happen,” DiBella said regarding any acrimony among Derevyanchenko’s handlers. “I never believed they wanted the fight, frankly. I called Peter Nelson to tell him we were in [for December 16] within the deadline we were given to work everything out. I got a text back that said Andrade was available. Then, five minutes later, Artie called me and told me that Andrade wasn’t available. That was for December. That’s what happened then. The money for them to fight in December was fine.
“And then the offer was reduced by three-eighths this year, and it was never offered for a particular date. It was like, ‘Well, if we’re gonna do the fight, this is what we have in the pot.’ We were never told, ‘Here’s the time, date and place.’ It’s also very difficult when you’ve made a deal with a fighter at a certain number, to reduce that total pot by three-eighths and think that it’s gonna be easy to close the deal. But that being said, there wasn’t even a firm date or place discussed.”
Their disagreement aside, Pelullo and DiBella are willing to revisit negotiations for an Andrade-Derevyanchenko fight.