Does Canelo have an issue with rematches?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Just read this..

Roach: Canelo Never Wanted Rematch; Cotto Won Their Fight

Roach said, “I don’t think Canelo ever wants that rematch, to be honest with you. He never responded to any of our offers.”

“I thought we won the fight. There’s no doubt. His defense was great that night. He picked off every shot. If you go percentage-wise, they say we didn’t land enough power shots. But what is a power shot? Anything that’s not a jab is a power shot. So that’s kind of bullsh*t, too, because he landed a lot more than just a jab that night.”

According to unofficial CompuBox statistics, Alvarez out-landed Cotto in overall punches (155-of-184 to 129-of-629) and power punches (118-of-298 to 75-of-255). CompuBox credited Cotto with connecting on more jabs (54-of-374 to 37-of-186).

With the Cotto fight, many fans say Canelo won fair, but the scorecards were too wide.
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It got me thinking, there are some fights that many call close. Lara, Trout, Cotto, GGG..

Bar GGG, which is a big money fight for both, in regards to Lara, De La Hoya said, "No one wants a rematch."

Instead of ever exploring a rematch with Lara, to shut many people up, he fought Angulo, Kirkland, Smith, Khan etc.

Even with the GGG rematch, he looks to be hesitating.

[Jip]

i aggree. He doesnt like rematches. Ag lara i can understand. He lost. But on corrupt cards he won and lara aint no money draw. Ag ggg i cant understand it. He lost again. Got a draw on corrupt cards. But ggg is a star and brings audience hype. A win over ggg is big news. If he realy thinks he can beat him than he should go for it.

[gilgamesh]

I thought he beat Lara pretty clear myself. Same with Cotto. He lost to GGG though.

I'll bet you he'd jump at a Mayweather rematch if it were offered to him next May

[Ruthless-RKO]

I'll bet you he'd jump at a Mayweather rematch if it were offered to him next May

Most definitely!

[apollo creed]

He's gonna fight Golovkin because of the big demand and the result of their first match. There is no better dance partner for Canelo atm than Golovkin to generate big numbers. Anyway, the only concern is if Lemieux beats Saunders and Oscar matches Canelo with Lemieux letting Golovkin to get more older and more soft.

[Badhusker]

I thought he beat Lara pretty clear myself. Same with Cotto. He lost to GGG though.

I'll bet you he'd jump at a Mayweather rematch if it were offered to him next May

Omg please. Lara would have had an easy UD if his name was Mayweather, and/or Canelo had a different name. Punches on gloves don't count. You don't win a 12 round fight landing 50 body punches and unable to hit your opponent's face at least 5 or 6 times.

[gilgamesh]

I thought he beat Lara pretty clear myself. Same with Cotto. He lost to GGG though.

I'll bet you he'd jump at a Mayweather rematch if it were offered to him next May

Omg please. Lara would have had an easy UD if his name was Mayweather, and/or Canelo had a different name. Punches on gloves don't count. You don't win a 12 round fight landing 50 body punches and unable to hit your opponent's face at least 5 or 6 times.

The body punches are exactly what won him that fight. They were the cleanest, hardest punches of the fight.

[SFW]

I thought he beat Lara pretty clear myself. Same with Cotto. He lost to GGG though.

I'll bet you he'd jump at a Mayweather rematch if it were offered to him next May

Omg please. Lara would have had an easy UD if his name was Mayweather, and/or Canelo had a different name. Punches on gloves don't count. You don't win a 12 round fight landing 50 body punches and unable to hit your opponent's face at least 5 or 6 times.

The body punches are exactly what won him that fight. They were the cleanest, hardest punches of the fight.

The body punches did not outweigh the clean work Lara had done most of the night. Didn't happen. Angulo the walking mummy did more actual damage than Canelo, and twice did what Canelo failed to do once. Just call it what it is, a gift. That's exactly what it was.

[gilgamesh]

Omg please. Lara would have had an easy UD if his name was Mayweather, and/or Canelo had a different name. Punches on gloves don't count. You don't win a 12 round fight landing 50 body punches and unable to hit your opponent's face at least 5 or 6 times.

The body punches are exactly what won him that fight. They were the cleanest, hardest punches of the fight.

The body punches did not outweigh the clean work Lara had done most of the night. Didn't happen. Angulo the walking mummy did more actual damage than Canelo, and twice did what Canelo failed to do once. Just call it what it is, a gift. That's exactly what it was.

I had Canelo the clear winner. If body shots don't count to you guys that's your problem. Lara's pitty pat flicks to the head didn't do more damage than Canelo's hard, clean body punches.

[jamamb]

lara never looked hurt to me. how do you determine just how much damage was done then?if the guy never winces, never bends over, never nods recognition, etc. they were just punches to the body like laras were to the head.

[SFW]

The body punches are exactly what won him that fight. They were the cleanest, hardest punches of the fight.

The body punches did not outweigh the clean work Lara had done most of the night. Didn't happen. Angulo the walking mummy did more actual damage than Canelo, and twice did what Canelo failed to do once. Just call it what it is, a gift. That's exactly what it was.

I had Canelo the clear winner. If body shots don't count to you guys that's your problem. Lara's pitty pat flicks to the head didn't do more damage than Canelo's hard, clean body punches.

You'd be wrong, no worries.. Lolol pitty pat didn't lump up Canelo's face, sweet Jesus this delusion needs to stop. Body shots in a few rounds did not earn a decision sorry that's complete fantasy.

[Badhusker]

It is pretty obvious Canelo has trouble with rematches that he narrowly won or lost. He never wanted a rematch with Floyd, until Floyd retired and hit 40. Canelo was schooled by a past his prime 36 yr old welterweight.

He never wanted rematches with Trout or Lara, who both out-boxed him but Canelo had the judges in his pocket. Personally I thought he beat Trout close, but may have been a different result without the bs open scoring. I thought Lara clearly out-boxed Canelo making him look absolutely foolish at times, but the judges apparently didn't like Lara's style....especially the mexican judge (117-111)

As far as the undeserved draw with GGG, Canelo thought he waited long enough so GGG was past it. Now dragging his feet again. Maybe if they tell him he won enough times, he will actually believe it and do the rematch.

[Enlightened-One]

There's no compelling evidence that justifies an accusation of Canelo refraining from participating in rematches.

Regardless of any perceived "controversy", it's an irrefutable fact that more people believed that Canelo deserved to be awarded his victories against Cotto and Lara, than those that thought otherwise.

I'm not sure that rematches for fights where the winner deserved their victory sell that well, hence the economic argument of many promoters to actively refrain from trying to stage such events.

Did the representatives of Lara and Cotto, or even HBO, ever attempt to initiate contract negotiations for a rematch? The answer is clearly NO.

We also know for certain that Canelo has a rematch clause in the Golovkin fight contract, which he is likely to exercise during Cinco de Mayo 2018. The precise terms of rematch won't be negotiated until early next year.

People are entitled to their opinions, so I have no problem with Canelo being disliked, but they shouldn't justify their derogatory thoughts by citing theories that were dreamt up.

[gilgamesh]

The body punches did not outweigh the clean work Lara had done most of the night. Didn't happen. Angulo the walking mummy did more actual damage than Canelo, and twice did what Canelo failed to do once. Just call it what it is, a gift. That's exactly what it was.

I had Canelo the clear winner. If body shots don't count to you guys that's your problem. Lara's pitty pat flicks to the head didn't do more damage than Canelo's hard, clean body punches.

You'd be wrong, no worries.. Lolol pitty pat didn't lump up Canelo's face, sweet Jesus this delusion needs to stop. Body shots in a few rounds did not earn a decision sorry that's complete fantasy.

You're right. Body shots in 9 rounds out of 12 earned it.

[gilgamesh]

There's no compelling evidence that justifies an accusation of Canelo refraining from participating in rematches.

Regardless of any perceived "controversy", it's an irrefutable fact that more people believed that Canelo deserved to be awarded his victories against Cotto and Lara, than those that thought otherwise.

I'm not sure that rematches for fights where the winner deserved their victory sell that well, hence the economic argument of many promoters to actively refrain from trying to stage such events.

Did the representatives of Lara and Cotto, or even HBO, ever attempt to initiate contract negotiations for a rematch? The answer is clearly NO.

We also know for certain that Canelo has a rematch clause in the Golovkin fight contract, which he is likely to exercise during Cinco de Mayo 2018. The precise terms of rematch won't be negotiated until early next year.

People are entitled to their opinions, so I have no problem with Canelo being disliked, but they shouldn't justify their derogatory thoughts by citing theories that were dreamt up.

I didn't think his fight with Cotto was even slightly close. It was closer to a shutout win for Canelo than it was a decision Cotto deserved. People are outta their minds on that one.

[ElJefe]

He beat Cotto 8-4 imo. It was competitive but a clear win for Canelo. The fight didn't really catch fire so I don't think many people would have much interest in a rematch.

As for Lara, that was a "high risk, low reward" type fight. He came away with a win in a close fight (I scored it 114-114). The danger that Lara brings to someone like Canelo combined with it being a pretty boring fight means it'd be a weird decision to go back there again.

I think the GGG rematch will happen. If it doesn't, then maybe you have a point.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Canelo doesn’t need to rematch Cotto. He won clearly and Cotto fought scared.
Canelo didn’t rematch Lara because boxing gives guys like Canelo passes on fights against guys like Lara. No DLH/Quartey rematch
Trout could have deserved a rematch, but New Mexico ...

Another Floyd fight would ruin Canelo.

Another GGG fight is Canelo’s true rematch test.

[gilgamesh]

Canelo doesn’t need to rematch Cotto. He won clearly and Cotto fought scared.
Canelo didn’t rematch Lara because boxing gives guys like Canelo passes on fights against guys like Lara. No DLH/Quartey rematch
Trout could have deserved a rematch, but New Mexico ...

Another Floyd fight would ruin Canelo.

Another GGG fight is Canelo’s true rematch test.

Good chance Canelo could beat Floyd now. Especially if they fought at 160 which I'm sure Canelo would insist on should they have a rematch...which they won't of course, and shouldn't.

Canelo probably gets the win in a GGG rematch whether he deserves it or not.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Canelo doesn’t need to rematch Cotto. He won clearly and Cotto fought scared.
Canelo didn’t rematch Lara because boxing gives guys like Canelo passes on fights against guys like Lara. No DLH/Quartey rematch
Trout could have deserved a rematch, but New Mexico ...

Another Floyd fight would ruin Canelo.

Another GGG fight is Canelo’s true rematch test.

Good chance Canelo could beat Floyd now. Especially if they fought at 160 which I'm sure Canelo would insist on should they have a rematch...which they won't of course, and shouldn't.

Canelo probably gets the win in a GGG rematch whether he deserves it or not.

I think Canelo is worse (right now) than he was after the Floyd fight.
He got a little better immediately after Floyd.
However, he only looked good because of the competition.
Lara is not as good as Floyd. He doesn’t score in the way Floyd does to emphasize his defense.
He also isn’t as good as consistently dictating space in the ring.

Canelo looked very unsure during the GGG fight. It wasn’t just power.
Just because he ducked some of GGG’s telegraphed punches
people created a reality that he didn’t look tactically uncomfortable as soon as GGG settled down.
Canelo is still the same technically bad fighter he was before.
Floyd would also use the other exploits he figured out in the first fight. The ones he didn’t have to use.
I think right now Canelo knows for a fact “it wasn’t just Floyd”.

They better watch out trying to cherry-pick Ali. No way Ali gets the decision.
But Ali comes away looking like Trout and Lara, which he will, more of Canelo’s facade will fade.

I’m just saying ...

[gilgamesh]

Against GGG he fought like a guy that knew all he had to do was NOT get knocked out, and he wouldn't lose.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Against GGG he fought like a guy that knew all he had to do was NOT get knocked out, and he wouldn't lose.

This!! Just this!

[SenorPipino]

Canelo has an issue with being paid what he wants and deserves to be paid. Whether it's a rematch or not.

I believe just about every fighter feels that way.

That's why they call it prizefighting.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Canelo has an issue with being paid what he wants and deserves to be paid. Whether it's a rematch or not.

I believe just about every fighter feels that way.

That's why they call it prizefighting.

Funny how strict prizefighting starts after years of justifying the system's supposed integrity and historic significance as legitimate.

[Badhusker]

Canelo has an issue with being paid what he wants and deserves to be paid. Whether it's a rematch or not.

I believe just about every fighter feels that way.

That's why they call it prizefighting.

Funny how strict prizefighting starts after years of justifying the system's supposed integrity and historic significance as legitimate.

[candyslim]

It seems to me Alvarez has an issue not so much with rematches but with having to rely on partizan judges to protect his record after getting visibly beaten all ends up by Golovkin.

Why subject himself to that again while triple G is still close to the top of his game, when in a year or two he might not be?