IS Eddie ducking Parker

coneye
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IS Eddie ducking Parker

Post by coneye »

Been watching with interest the carry on with this fight , just can't help the feeling Hearn does'nt want it , and is using the 5% to duck Parker . Lets have it right AJ has certainly been exposed recently . Parker is'nt worried about him and will come to fight but 5% is stopping it ,, some say 30% is fair some think 35% is fair , personaly i always thought 35% was fair but even more so when you throw in a rematch clause in AJ 'S FAVOR

So it does'nt happen , WHO is going to step in not Wilder , not Polevtkin , leaves who Wyhte , Chisora , AJ will and can sell tickets no matter who he fights , but the Parker fight will pull in bigger revenue than say a Whyte fight , which means AJ will get a smaller large peice of the pie fighting Parker but the pie will be bigger , overall the money would still be similar ,

Personaly i think its a dodge , they have seen AJ is more fragile than they thought , and are worried , so there gonna use the money has an excuse to dodge everyone , until at least they find out whats happenning with Fury , Fury gets his liscence back , a warm up or two for Fury , another couple of dodges via the were the money man excuse , and a big cashout with Fury .
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Re: IS Eddie ducking Parker

Post by jamamb »

cant see why theyd be worried of parker. barely beat hughie and ruiz and didnt hurt either. hes a limited fighter and doesnt have dangerous power at this level.takam won 1 round against aj and was down in a supposedly bad showing by aj, but takam won 5-6 vs parker and wasnt in trouble.

parker has a short reach for a hw too and never seems to fully extend his shots. will get hammered on the outside beforr he can get in or aj tires much imo.stamina issue overplayed too.aj obviously has a strong 2nd wind.

parkers no better than pulev imo. just so happens hes got a belt.
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Post by tobyh5 »

In answer to the thread title - no.

Five per cent is a significant amount when you are talking about this sort of revenue. 5% of £100,000 is not worth worrying about, 5% of £30million is. Plus if you give him the 35%, it sets a dangerous precedent and barometer for the Wilder team and negotiations.
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Post by wesshaw1985 »

Yes he is.
Add Joshua to YafaI and Burnett...
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Post by mullenman »

It's all building the hype...

Big aj fan but I honestly believe Parker is a miss match. In my opinion he is not a top ten heavyweight like the bookies suggest if you check the odds. I fancy bellew could even beat him in points. I would rather whythe two for the build up than feather fists Parker. Don't believe the sky hype as Parker is bang average
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wesshaw1985 wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 03:01 Yes he is.
Add Joshua to YafaI and Burnett...
Can't be compared to the others.

Firstly he hasn't flat out turned down the Parker fight.

I still think it happens. Parkers team will realise they won't have another opportunity to earn anything near the money for the Joshua fight.
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Post by leejonesjnr »

Golly, the idea of Joshua v Fury being a cash out for AJ is crazy to me.
I really like Parker and I’m not really a big Joshua fan but I think in the end Parker will get the 35%.
I don’t see it as a Hearn/Joshua duck, just stubbornness.
Parker can’t really be classed as not powerful enough to hurt Hughie Fury, the criticism has to be that he wasn’t skilled enough to overcome the enormous negativity of the larger man and make him fight.
I’d be bang up for Parker v Whyte.
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Post by MarkMcBurney »

Not a duck or stubborn IMO, just plain greed.

You can't seriously argue that one of the other two legit belt holders doesn't deserve at least 35% - Wilder genuinely deserves 50% for a unification between the two biggest heavyweight names in the division IMO, but it's pure greed and deflection tactics from Eddie, with things like 'focus on the figure not the percentage'.

The fact that he can brazenly say that AJ makes as much money out of a knockover as he would out of Parker/Wilder says more about the pathetic state of AJ fanboys than anything else.
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Post by Boxerbeetle »

No way are Eddie or Joshua ducking Parker, he’s a much easier fight than Takam was.
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No as everyone has said Parker is not a serious threat to aj. It's just about money AJ and Eddie are greedy. I guess AJ will fight Pulev and another no hoper this year before he risks his title against Wilder and Fury for megabucks.
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The fight will happen and the splits with be kept confidential as part of the contract.
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He's not ducking Parker ffs! He's just trying to milk the fight as much as possible. AJ wallops Parker about everyday of the week and twice in a Sunday!
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MarkMcBurney wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 04:04 Not a duck or stubborn IMO, just plain greed.

You can't seriously argue that one of the other two legit belt holders doesn't deserve at least 35% - Wilder genuinely deserves 50% for a unification between the two biggest heavyweight names in the division IMO, but it's pure greed and deflection tactics from Eddie, with things like 'focus on the figure not the percentage'.

The fact that he can brazenly say that AJ makes as much money out of a knockover as he would out of Parker/Wilder says more about the pathetic state of AJ fanboys than anything else.
:bow:
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 04:56 No way are Eddie or Joshua ducking Parker, he’s a much easier fight than Takam was.
Parker poses more of a threat to AJs dodgy chin than Takam...
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MarkMcBurney wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 04:04 Not a duck or stubborn IMO, just plain greed.

You can't seriously argue that one of the other two legit belt holders doesn't deserve at least 35% - Wilder genuinely deserves 50% for a unification between the two biggest heavyweight names in the division IMO, but it's pure greed and deflection tactics from Eddie, with things like 'focus on the figure not the percentage'.

The fact that he can brazenly say that AJ makes as much money out of a knockover as he would out of Parker/Wilder says more about the pathetic state of AJ fanboys than anything else.
Except you obviously can.
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Post by wesshaw1985 »

dirk2686 wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 05:50
MarkMcBurney wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 04:04 Not a duck or stubborn IMO, just plain greed.

You can't seriously argue that one of the other two legit belt holders doesn't deserve at least 35% - Wilder genuinely deserves 50% for a unification between the two biggest heavyweight names in the division IMO, but it's pure greed and deflection tactics from Eddie, with things like 'focus on the figure not the percentage'.

The fact that he can brazenly say that AJ makes as much money out of a knockover as he would out of Parker/Wilder says more about the pathetic state of AJ fanboys than anything else.
Except you obviously can.
Can't...
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Post by coneye »

tobyh5 wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 02:45 In answer to the thread title - no.

Five per cent is a significant amount when you are talking about this sort of revenue. 5% of £100,000 is not worth worrying about, 5% of £30million is. Plus if you give him the 35%, it sets a dangerous precedent and barometer for the Wilder team and negotiations.
This is my point , what other fights are available for AJ , plenty that make x amount , , this one makes more , , you cannot really believe AJ versus Whyte will make more than AJ versus Parker , point being Aj gets a smaller % out of a bigger purse , it evens out . Plus he gets the rematch clause in his favor .
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coneye wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 06:04
tobyh5 wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 02:45 In answer to the thread title - no.

Five per cent is a significant amount when you are talking about this sort of revenue. 5% of £100,000 is not worth worrying about, 5% of £30million is. Plus if you give him the 35%, it sets a dangerous precedent and barometer for the Wilder team and negotiations.
This is my point , what other fights are available for AJ , plenty that make x amount , , this one makes more , , you cannot really believe AJ versus Whyte will make more than AJ versus Parker , point being Aj gets a smaller % out of a bigger purse , it evens out . Plus he gets the rematch clause in his favor .
Parker is a nobody. Look at the fight with Hughie; nobody gave a sh!t. I dare say he does more in a Whyte rematch given the casual fan has heard of Whyte and seen him in two pretty entertaining fights. How do you sell Parker? The highlight of his career has been Tyson doing the haka.
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Post by Marlo Stanfield »

Not a duck IMO, just trying to low ball him.

He's been embarrassed enough with his Yafai and Burnett stuff this week give him a break :OhYes: :OhYes:
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Post by danconnollyeire »

wesshaw1985 wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 05:48
Boxerbeetle wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 04:56 No way are Eddie or Joshua ducking Parker, he’s a much easier fight than Takam was.
Parker poses more of a threat to AJs dodgy chin than Takam...
For one, AJ proved vs Wlad his chin is fine

Two, where are people getting Parker is a banger from? His last 3 fights have gone the distance. He couldn't hurt Razvan Cojanu who's been stopped by some nobody a year previously. His last KO was Alexander Dimitrenko, who was stopped by non-banger Pulev. No-one he's stopped has a chin
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danconnollyeire wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 08:30
wesshaw1985 wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 05:48
Boxerbeetle wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 04:56 No way are Eddie or Joshua ducking Parker, he’s a much easier fight than Takam was.
Parker poses more of a threat to AJs dodgy chin than Takam...
For one, AJ proved vs Wlad his chin is fine

Two, where are people getting Parker is a banger from? His last 3 fights have gone the distance. He couldn't hurt Razvan Cojanu who's been stopped by some nobody a year previously. His last KO was Alexander Dimitrenko, who was stopped by non-banger Pulev. No-one he's stopped has a chin
I didn't say he was a "banger."
I said Parker has more chance of hurting Joshua than Takam BUT he also has more chance of being stopped earlier than Takam by Joshua IMO...
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Post by nitro5912 »

No duck, just hearn playing hardball. I suspect AJ will take the offer presented but hearn has different ideas.

But i think something in the OP has been over looked.

When was AJ exposed? He got caught with a banging right from wlad, went down got up, recovered (let of the hook if you believe wlad) and stopped him. He then went 10 rounds busting both of takams eyes open with a bust nose for 8rounds.

So what was this exposure? He has been 11 & 10 rounds in 2 gruelling fights, sort of proves his stamina, has got up from shots that would habe sent many to sleep proves his chin & heart. His technique isn't perfect but i thought against takam he boxed and controlled the fight better than he has before.
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I suspect it's all part of the grand plan to try and show Parker as a big threat. Let's be honest, AJ beats Parker with little problem, so what better way of building up the fight with a few demands, rejections, counter demands etc.
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Re: IS Eddie ducking Parker

Post by PredatorHayds »

Not a duck at all. For that amount of money every percentage helps.

Let’s not forget Parker’s promoter doesn’t know his arse from his elbow, and Hearn and AJ will end up getting him on the cheap.

AJ makes monster money regardless of who he fights.
Parker only has AJ for big bucks. Hearn knows this and is exploiting the weaknesses. Also throw in the small NZ PPV market which KIWI knows better than me.
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MarkMcBurney wrote: 08 Dec 2017, 04:04
You can't seriously argue that one of the other two legit belt holders doesn't deserve at least 35%
Yes you can. Parker won the vacant title against an obese Mexican American & earned 750,000 quid against Fury in a fight watched by a handful of people.

Joshua has beaten the longtime heavyweight champ in a thriller talked about around the world & earns 15 million a fight, TWENTY times more than Parker.

Personally I think 70/30 is fair but you CAN seriously argue that Parker doesn't deserve at least 35%
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