Boxer with the most exciting career?

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What boxer do you think had the most exciting career? Surely the criteria for This is up for debate but I’d say maybe... Mega fights, crowd pleasing, never ducked anyone, always put on a show win or lose. Fought everyone and anyone. A boxer whose Fights you watch over and over. Overall A+ entertainment value. Which boxer had the most exciting career? Apologize in advance if this is an awkward question lol
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I like boxers who take risks, like AJ, Whyte, even Chisora despite I never liked Chisora as a person.
I also like Takam, Povetkin, Jennings, Ortiz, guys who dare to take a fight they don't have the odds in, or prove the fans wrong.
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asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:02 I like boxers who take risks, like AJ, Whyte, even Chisora despite I never liked Chisora as a person.
I also like Takam, Povetkin, Jennings, Ortiz, guys who dare to take a fight they don't have the odds in, or prove the fans wrong.
So...have you never heard of guys that aren't Heavyweights? Also when has Ortiz ever dared to take a fight he doesn't have the odds in?
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Most exciting I've seen in my time as a fan have been Arturo Gatti, Erik Morales and Miguel Cotto.

Guys like Marcos Maidana and Orlando Salido have been a real pleasure to watch too.
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gilgamesh wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:03
asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:02 I like boxers who take risks, like AJ, Whyte, even Chisora despite I never liked Chisora as a person.
I also like Takam, Povetkin, Jennings, Ortiz, guys who dare to take a fight they don't have the odds in, or prove the fans wrong.
So...have you never heard of guys that aren't Heavyweights? Also when has Ortiz ever dared to take a fight he doesn't have the odds in?
Yes, I have ever heard of them. Ortiz challenged all the top guys, but always got ducked by them. Even Jennings delayed his fight with him several times because he wanted more money and such.
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asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:37
gilgamesh wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:03
asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:02 I like boxers who take risks, like AJ, Whyte, even Chisora despite I never liked Chisora as a person.
I also like Takam, Povetkin, Jennings, Ortiz, guys who dare to take a fight they don't have the odds in, or prove the fans wrong.
So...have you never heard of guys that aren't Heavyweights? Also when has Ortiz ever dared to take a fight he doesn't have the odds in?
Yes, I have ever heard of them. Ortiz challenged all the top guys, but always got ducked by them. Even Jennings delayed his fight with him several times because he wanted more money and such.
Ortiz has fought almost no top fighters. Challenging them and not fighting them don't mean d*ck. If you're impressed by challenging guys and then not fighting them you should be impressed by Wilder.
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asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:37
gilgamesh wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:03
asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:02 I like boxers who take risks, like AJ, Whyte, even Chisora despite I never liked Chisora as a person.
I also like Takam, Povetkin, Jennings, Ortiz, guys who dare to take a fight they don't have the odds in, or prove the fans wrong.
So...have you never heard of guys that aren't Heavyweights? Also when has Ortiz ever dared to take a fight he doesn't have the odds in?
Yes, I have ever heard of them. Ortiz challenged all the top guys, but always got ducked by them. Even Jennings delayed his fight with him several times because he wanted more money and such.
I will have to say I side with Bryant Jennings on that situation. Him vs. Ortiz was too big of a fight to go unnoticed on the undercard of Cotto/Canelo. I absolutely think it deserved its own Boxing After Dark. That def made more sense to me. Sadly no one ever really remembers what happens on the undercard of a PPV. I remember being super excited for this. Shoot more excited for This than Canelo/Cotto Lol. I understood where Jennings was coming from
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gilgamesh wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:46
asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:37
gilgamesh wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:03

So...have you never heard of guys that aren't Heavyweights? Also when has Ortiz ever dared to take a fight he doesn't have the odds in?
Yes, I have ever heard of them. Ortiz challenged all the top guys, but always got ducked by them. Even Jennings delayed his fight with him several times because he wanted more money and such.
Ortiz has fought almost no top fighters. Challenging them and not fighting them don't mean d*ck. If you're impressed by challenging guys and then not fighting them you should be impressed by Wilder.
Because Wilder ducks them with bullshit excuses or ridiculous demands, unlike Ortiz
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asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 15:43
gilgamesh wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:46
asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:37
Yes, I have ever heard of them. Ortiz challenged all the top guys, but always got ducked by them. Even Jennings delayed his fight with him several times because he wanted more money and such.
Ortiz has fought almost no top fighters. Challenging them and not fighting them don't mean d*ck. If you're impressed by challenging guys and then not fighting them you should be impressed by Wilder.
Because Wilder ducks them with bullshit excuses or ridiculous demands, unlike Ortiz
Ortiz doesn't fight them in the first place. He pisses hot, and gets the fight cancelled. If anything Wilder deserves more respect than Ortiz, and that ain't saying much.
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gilgamesh wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 15:45
asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 15:43
gilgamesh wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 14:46

Ortiz has fought almost no top fighters. Challenging them and not fighting them don't mean d*ck. If you're impressed by challenging guys and then not fighting them you should be impressed by Wilder.
Because Wilder ducks them with bullshit excuses or ridiculous demands, unlike Ortiz
Ortiz doesn't fight them in the first place. He pisses hot, and gets the fight cancelled. If anything Wilder deserves more respect than Ortiz, and that ain't saying much.
Ortiz fought Jennings almost for free because otherwise Jennings would duck him as well, Wilder never challenged Jennings at all, he was just running away scared and fight his friends Molina, Stiverne and Arreola?
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asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 15:49
Ortiz fought Jennings almost for free because otherwise Jennings would duck him as well, Wilder never challenged Jennings at all, he was just running away scared and fight his friends Molina, Stiverne and Arreola?
Jennings was never somebody to challenge. Ortiz vs Jennings was a fight to establish the winner as a contender.

Ortiz has fought exactly 1 Top 10 opponent. Wilder has too. Wilder hasn't popped hot. Ortiz has. Wilder is the more respectable of the two, and I don't think much of either one of them.
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gilgamesh wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 15:52
asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 15:49
Ortiz fought Jennings almost for free because otherwise Jennings would duck him as well, Wilder never challenged Jennings at all, he was just running away scared and fight his friends Molina, Stiverne and Arreola?
Jennings was never somebody to challenge. Ortiz vs Jennings was a fight to establish the winner as a contender.

Ortiz has fought exactly 1 Top 10 opponent. Wilder has too. Wilder hasn't popped hot. Ortiz has. Wilder is the more respectable of the two, and I don't think much of either one of them.
Yea, but Wilder ducked all the chances he had, and Ortiz got ducked by all the chances he had. Wilder had his own lab and Wilder used his own lab to get rid of high skilled opponents. I mean, you really must be blind to think something else about it.
And no, ofcourse Wilder won't get popped as long as he doesn't get tested by an independant lab.
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asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 16:02
gilgamesh wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 15:52
asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 15:49
Ortiz fought Jennings almost for free because otherwise Jennings would duck him as well, Wilder never challenged Jennings at all, he was just running away scared and fight his friends Molina, Stiverne and Arreola?
Jennings was never somebody to challenge. Ortiz vs Jennings was a fight to establish the winner as a contender.

Ortiz has fought exactly 1 Top 10 opponent. Wilder has too. Wilder hasn't popped hot. Ortiz has. Wilder is the more respectable of the two, and I don't think much of either one of them.
Yea, but Wilder ducked all the chances he had, and Ortiz got ducked by all the chances he had. Wilder had his own lab and Wilder used his own lab to get rid of high skilled opponents. I mean, you really must be blind to think something else about it.
And no, ofcourse Wilder won't get popped as long as he doesn't get tested by an independant lab.
Wilder isn't rich enough to have a drug testing lab in his pocket. Don't be stupid.
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gilgamesh wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 16:02
asdfjkl wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 16:02
gilgamesh wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 15:52

Jennings was never somebody to challenge. Ortiz vs Jennings was a fight to establish the winner as a contender.

Ortiz has fought exactly 1 Top 10 opponent. Wilder has too. Wilder hasn't popped hot. Ortiz has. Wilder is the more respectable of the two, and I don't think much of either one of them.
Yea, but Wilder ducked all the chances he had, and Ortiz got ducked by all the chances he had. Wilder had his own lab and Wilder used his own lab to get rid of high skilled opponents. I mean, you really must be blind to think something else about it.
And no, ofcourse Wilder won't get popped as long as he doesn't get tested by an independant lab.
Wilder isn't rich enough to have a drug testing lab in his pocket. Don't be stupid.
His team appearantly is, especially if it's in his own country, "dr Margareth Goodman" ( https://www.google.nl/search?rlz=1C1RNV ... 50631e82,1,,, ) is probably a fangirl as well.
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Pac, Tyson....
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Roberto Duran. He was the absolute king of the lightweights and after that he went up to face big challenges. He had epic highs and dramatic lows then, win or lose he was writing history with those legendary showdowns.
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Pac is up there with the older greats.

Crowd pleasing style and fought everyone :box:
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In reascent years GGG....nobody made boxing so exciting than him in the last 5 years

Also canelo made spectacular ko's and had a lot action packed fights
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Jip wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 16:14Pac, Tyson....
Pacman has had me on the edge of my seat many times, even when he loses its entertaining. The KO to JMM or the battering he gave to Algeri, so many exciting momnents.
Tyson was exciting, and expolsive. It took a lot longer for a decent boxer to expose him, but the ride up until then was great.
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KiwiRider wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 19:11
Jip wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 16:14Pac, Tyson....
Pacman has had me on the edge of my seat many times, even when he loses its entertaining. The KO to JMM or the battering he gave to Algeri, so many exciting momnents.
Tyson was exciting, and expolsive. It took a lot longer for a decent boxer to expose him, but the ride up until then was great.
The morales and marquez fights, unbelievable.
I dont care so much about win or loss, i care about exciting fights and pac always delivered.

Tyson was never exposed. He simply stopped training. When a prime boxer trains 100 % and losses while in his prime, that exposing. Like rigo exposed donaire. But when a prime boxer stopps training in the case if tyson bevause he became a global star and earned 200 million and simply dont focuse on boxing but on women and party than losing us simply losing. The tyson from the late 80s would have had a different fight with lewis and holyfield. But since this thread is about exciting career. Not lewis, not holyfield, nobody had such an exciting hw career since ali
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Zarate (almost all KOs)
Kid Pambele (a true beast)
Bob Foster (another true beast)
Gatti (foty concentrations.... drama)
Bowe (everything... FOTYs, talent, riots, fan man, wars, ringside mayhem, WWE stuff...)
Mugabi (personal fav... beast, warrior, at his most dangerous when hurt... ktfo artist)
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Tommy hearns
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Nigel Benn
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To me, for a boxer to be exciting, they need to take on top quality opposition and have an aesthetically pleasing, aggressive fighting style.

Muhammad Ali had a very exciting career due to his incredible list of opponents, but his relative lack of power and fighting style meant his had some snoozers against defensively minded fighters.

Mike Tyson and GGG have had exciting careers because of their, aggressive fighting style and power which lead to a high knockout percentage. That said, GGG has, until recently, been so much better than his opponents that his fights, while exciting, haven't exactly been compelling as he had hardly ever seemed to be in danger. Similarly, Tyson was so dominant at his best - his most exciting fights didn't come until he had slipped a bit.

Arturo Gatti was in some barnstormers and is a popular choice as an exciting fighter, but I personally prefer watching boxers with more defensive skills - give me Hearns-Leonard 1 over Gatti-Ward any day.

With a bit of thought, these are the four boxers I think have had the most exciting careers since I started following boxing:

Thomas Hearns (a bit before my time, but my all-time favourite fighter so I can't leave him out)
Oscar de la Hoya
Evander Holyfield
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Way down the levels but Yasutaka Ishimoto has always been a pleasure to watch.

Tomasz Adamek and Marcos Maidana spring to mind
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Probably Archie Moore had the most exciting career of any boxer... He won 186 fights and scored 132 KO's, which I believe is the all-time record... There is nothing more exciting than knocking a man out in a fist fight... Getting knocked out yourself isn't too happy of an event, but it is exciting for spectators... Moore also suffered 23 losses and 7 KO losses... He was knocked down about 30 times.

Archie was involved in 10 draws and many of his fights were edge-of-your-seat hair raising affairs.. Along the way he fought Charley Burley... Ezzard Charles 3 times... Yvon Durelle twice... Harold Johnson 5 times... Willie Pastrano... Pete Rademacher... Lloyd Marshall a number of times... Rocky Marciano.... Floyd Patterson... Muhammad Ali... Bobo Olson... Nino Valdez... Bobby Baker.... Jimmy Bivins about 4 times.... Bert Lytell.... Bob Scatterfield.... Holman Williams.... Jack Chase a couple times.... Teddy Yarosz and a bunch of others.... Archie loved to fight and it didn't take a lot of wrangling to get him into the ring... He had a certain charisma and got a lot of roles as an actor as well.

Probably the most exciting guy to watch was Jack Dempsey in his early 20's... He had a reckless, big swinging style and murderous intent... He had a tremendous chin and would bore right into his opponent like a fistic maniac... He loved to fight... Two more who loved fighting were Micky Walker and Harry Greb... After one of their fights they ran into each other and had a street fight... Kind of like Mike Tyson and Mitch Green... Tyson was a very exciting fighter who wasn't beyond mixing in the street.
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