The VADA crew - "your friends in the business!"

[Ilya Muromets]

"The Vada crew. "Your friends in the business". Don't let your career stagnate. Are you a little worried about an upcoming fight or team match? Amateur or pro, including the Olympics. We handle them all. Give us a call and see what we can do for you. You will be amazed!

Give us the green and watch your opponent test red!

Run by genuine USA medical doctors based in Las Vegas. Don't throw away your sports career dealing with middle men and low class hustlers. We have the right connections. We are "friends of the friends". Satisfaction guaranteed. US hundred dollar bill cash only.

VADA, Las Vegas NeVADA, Sin City!

[Ilya Muromets]

If you go to the VADA website they actually have a page where you can donate money to them. I was thinking of donating money to them but then I changed my mind.

:)

[jamamb]

at least they saved you wilder beating the pulp out of povetkin.at least you can keep up your fanciful delusions that thats not how it wouldve gone down.

[Ilya Muromets]

at least they saved you wilder beating the pulp out of povetkin.at least you can keep up your fanciful delusions that thats not how it wouldve gone down.

So true. NeVADA saved Povetkin from getting his pulp beat out by Wilder. And King Kong Ortiz too. NeVADA also saved Povetkin from getting his pulp beat out by Stiverne. If it wasn't for NeVADA all the American heavyweights would have beaten the pulp out of Povetkin. Oh thank you so much, dear Doctor Margaret Goodman, for saving Povetkin and Ortiz from getting their pulp beaten out by Wilder and all the other American heavyweights!

[Mexi-Box]

I wish Mayweather was still in the sport now that these guys are gaining more prominence. Dude would've definitely got caught for the Pacquiao fight. Dude was roided to the gills.

[jamamb]

ya pac was juiced to the gills

[Ilya Muromets]

I wish Mayweather was still in the sport now that these guys are gaining more prominence. Dude would've definitely got caught for the Pacquiao fight. Dude was roided to the gills.

Do you think the Las Vegas NeVADA drug test crew has any interest in actually drug testing the in crowd - and finding something! - the in crowd like for instance Mayweather or Wilder? Please. You are very naive if you do.

[SFW]

This thread could choke a donkey.

[Counter-puncher]

Give us the green and watch your opponent test red!

Run by genuine USA medical doctors based in Las Vegas. Don't throw away your sports career dealing with middle men and low class hustlers. We have the right connections. We are "friends of the friends". Satisfaction guaranteed. US hundred dollar bill cash only.

[Mexi-Box]

ya pac was juiced to the gills

He wasn't the one that was caught with an IV trying to cover it up.

[Mexi-Box]

I wish Mayweather was still in the sport now that these guys are gaining more prominence. Dude would've definitely got caught for the Pacquiao fight. Dude was roided to the gills.

Do you think the Las Vegas NeVADA drug test crew has any interest in actually drug testing the in crowd - and finding something! - the in crowd like for instance Mayweather or Wilder? Please. You are very naive if you do.

They were the ones that found out about Peterson and Berto IIRC. They would've definitely caught Mayweather for the Pacquaio fight. It isn't until recently that they've been doing some fishy stuff.

[Ilya Muromets]

The British copy of Doc Goodman's NeVADA shakedown crew is almost as bad. They won't leave Fury alone but did they ever even drug test Joshua? His body type and very rapid muscular size and development in the past suggests muscle enhancing drugs; Fury's sure doesn't.

http://www.BS.com/tyson-fury-u ... an--123174

[Kalan]

at least they saved you wilder beating the pulp out of povetkin.at least you can keep up your fanciful delusions that thats not how it wouldve gone down.

You're ignorant as Hell. Povetkin would have ripped out Wilder and so would Ortiz... VADA admitted Povetkin passed all his tests for Wilder and there was no reason for the fight to be canceled... Duhaupas goes 11 rounds with ducking ass Wilder -- gets blasted out quickly by Povetkin.

[Kalan]

The British copy of Doc Goodman's NeVADA shakedown crew is almost as bad. They won't leave Fury alone but did they ever even drug test Joshua? His body type and very rapid muscular size and development in the past suggests muscle enhancing drugs; Fury's sure doesn't

Hard work enhances muscular development. Eating pizza and fuking off enhances pot belly development -- which Fury is good at.. Joshua has specialists working for him to make sure he never takes illegal or banned substances, and that none of his food or anything he drinks gets contaminated with any illegal substance by accident.. There's been too many foreigners smeared and ruined by VADA for taking one tenth of a nanogram of Ostarine or other such foolishness while they let Stiverne get off scot-free... I'm sure Joshua is a big fat target of VADA and the WBC.

But they have to be very careful... Joshua has the financial resources to sue the Hell out of VADA and pursue those bastards to the ends of the Earth if they claim he took a banned substance.. He's speaks English and won't be at a massive disadvantage confronting them like Povetkin.

[Ilya Muromets]

The British copy of Doc Goodman's NeVADA shakedown crew is almost as bad. They won't leave Fury alone but did they ever even drug test Joshua? His body type and very rapid muscular size and development in the past suggests muscle enhancing drugs; Fury's sure doesn't

Hard work enhances muscular development. Eating pizza and fuking off enhances pot belly development -- which Fury is good at.. Joshua has specialists working for him to make sure he never takes illegal or banned substances, and that none of his food or anything he drinks gets contaminated with any illegal substance by accident.. There's been too many foreigners smeared and ruined by VADA for taking one tenth of a nanogram of Ostarine or other such foolishness while they let Stiverne get off scot-free... I'm sure Joshua is a big fat target of VADA and the WBC.

But they have to be very careful... Joshua has the financial resources to sue the Hell out of VADA and pursue those bastards to the ends of the Earth if they claim he took a banned substance.. He's speaks English and won't be at a massive disadvantage confronting them like Povetkin.

Joshua: I don't think the drug test crews are interested in finding anything on the big name big money British boxers either. The US and the UK are in it together. What big name UK boxers have they bothered, other than Fury who is "politically incorrect" and out with the in crowd?

[Counter-puncher]

Joshua has specialists working for him to make sure he never takes illegal or banned substances, and that none of his food or anything he drinks gets contaminated with any illegal substance by accident.. T

[Enlightened-One]

Joshua: I don't think the drug test crews are interested in finding anything on the big name big money British boxers

Anthony Joshua has successfully completed two training camps where he had to undergo testing by VADA in recent times. He was even tested three times within only a four week period during March 2017.

Bellew and Haye were both tested during their training camp for their postponed December bout.

Do you have any evidence of the anti-doping agencies actively refraining from testing “big money British boxers”?

The US and the UK are in it together.

Are they really? Please provide some evidence of this new conspiracy theory.

What big name UK boxers have they bothered, other than Fury who is "politically incorrect" and out with the in crowd?

Does Hughie Fury and Dillian Whyte count? They both failed tests. AJ, Bellew & Haye have been tested multiple times.

There aren’t that many "big name big money British" Heavyweight fighters, which means that you’ve issued a highly-dishonest challenge, because the scope of fighters to consider is rather small. FFS!

[Ilya Muromets]

Joshua: I don't think the drug test crews are interested in finding anything on the big name big money British boxers

Anthony Joshua has successfully completed two training camps where he had to undergo testing by VADA in recent times. He was even tested three times within only a four week period during March 2017.

Bellew and Haye were both tested during their training camp for their postponed December bout.

Do you have any evidence of the anti-doping agencies actively refraining from testing “big money British boxers”?

The US and the UK are in it together.

Are they really? Please provide some evidence of this new conspiracy theory.

What big name UK boxers have they bothered, other than Fury who is "politically incorrect" and out with the in crowd?

Does Hughie Fury and Dillian Whyte count? They both failed tests. AJ, Bellew & Haye have been tested multiple times.

There aren’t that many "big name big money British" Heavyweight fighters, which means that you’ve issued a highly-dishonest challenge, because the scope of fighters to consider is rather small. FFS!

The question is how legit and honest are these tests conducted by private outfits in Las Vegas and Canada. To begin with it is pretty much a given that anything to do with LV is mob related and crooked, and you can pretty much say the same about boxing as a whole.

All pro athletes are going for any advantage they can. It's a very competitive business. Even amateur athletes are trying any angle they can. The rich and connected ones have layers of protection around them.

Evidence is circumstantial. We can see what's happening and we know who runs boxing and some other pro sports. They don't leave a paper trail.

When did Whyte fail a drug test? I don't know of any ban or penalty on Hughie Fury either, except it says he got a 7 day suspension or something in 2013.

"There aren’t that many "big name big money British" Heavyweight fighters, which means that you’ve issued a highly-dishonest challenge, because the scope of fighters to consider is rather small. FFS! "



4 of the top 17 heavies in the world are UK according to Boxrec. That's almost 1/4...though I don't know what David Haye is doing there. He hasn't won a legitimate fight since 2012.

Meanwhile they claim to have found a microscopic amount of something that was perfectly legal up until a couple of months before in one out of many so-called drug tests on the Russian champ and whoa now it's the end of the world! They want to totally destroy his career. Same deal with Lucas Browne who they claim to have found something on tho he vigorously swears it's not true, possibly from something tainted they gave him to eat in Chechnya, and again whoa he too is quickly out of their planned picture. It's been almost two years since he's had a meaningful fight.

[Kalan]

They claim to have found a microscopic amount of something that was perfectly legal up until a couple of months before in one out of many so-called drug tests on the Russian champ and whoa now it's the end of the world! They want to totally destroy his career

Actually, they were forced to ADMIT that Povetkin PASSED all the tests -- because he only had 70 nanograms of Meldonium in his worst test and and 999 nanograms PASSED... The cutoff was 1 milligram (1000 nanograms) which is still a minuscule amount, but you cannot have it in your test sample and pass.

They said they were "suspicious" because Povetkin tested totally clear in one test -- and a later test he had a miniscule 70 nanograms (which passes) in his sample.. This can easily be explained and WAS explained to VADA and the WBC that the different readings were only due to differing levels of hydration.

For instance.. Normal urine color ranges from almost clear, to pale yellow, to deep amber — it’s the result of a pigment called urochrome and how diluted or concentrated the urine is.. If you’re more hydrated which means if you had more water to drink your urochrome reading will be much less and you will pee more clear..

If you’re less hydrated, and maybe very thirsty, your urochrome level will be much higher and you will pee amber. But no matter how amber or clear your urine is, you still can’t have more than 999 nanograms of Meldonium for the particular test Povetkin produced a slight reading for but passed.

The Wilder-Povetkin Fight should have gone forward... There was no legal reason to stop it and Povetkin could probably win a law suit if he hired an honest attorney who couldn't be bought off by Wilder's side -- and was extremely competent and persuasive.

[Enlightened-One]

Joshua: I don't think the drug test crews are interested in finding anything on the big name big money British boxers

Anthony Joshua has successfully completed two training camps where he had to undergo testing by VADA in recent times. He was even tested three times within only a four week period during March 2017.

Bellew and Haye were both tested during their training camp for their postponed December bout.

Do you have any evidence of the anti-doping agencies actively refraining from testing “big money British boxers”?

The US and the UK are in it together.

Are they really? Please provide some evidence of this new conspiracy theory.

What big name UK boxers have they bothered, other than Fury who is "politically incorrect" and out with the in crowd?

Does Hughie Fury and Dillian Whyte count? They both failed tests. AJ, Bellew & Haye have been tested multiple times.

There aren’t that many "big name big money British" Heavyweight fighters, which means that you’ve issued a highly-dishonest challenge, because the scope of fighters to consider is rather small. FFS!

The question is how legit and honest are these tests conducted by private outfits in Las Vegas and Canada. To begin with it is pretty much a given that anything to do with LV is mob related and crooked, and you can pretty much say the same about boxing as a whole.

All pro athletes are going for any advantage they can. It's a very competitive business. Even amateur athletes are trying any angle they can. The rich and connected ones have layers of protection around them.

Evidence is circumstantial. We can see what's happening and we know who runs boxing and some other pro sports. They don't leave a paper trail.

When did Whyte fail a drug test? I don't know of any ban or penalty on Hughie Fury either, except it says he got a 7 day suspension or something in 2013.

"There aren’t that many "big name big money British" Heavyweight fighters, which means that you’ve issued a highly-dishonest challenge, because the scope of fighters to consider is rather small. FFS! "



4 of the top 17 heavies in the world are UK according to Boxrec. That's almost 1/4...though I don't know what David Haye is doing there. He hasn't won a legitimate fight since 2012.

Meanwhile they claim to have found a microscopic amount of something that was perfectly legal up until a couple of months before in one out of many so-called drug tests on the Russian champ and whoa now it's the end of the world! They want to totally destroy his career. Same deal with Lucas Browne who they claim to have found something on tho he vigorously swears it's not true, possibly from something tainted they gave him to eat in Chechnya, and again whoa he too is quickly out of their planned picture. It's been almost two years since he's had a meaningful fight.

I was curteous enough to directly address your comments head-on, but your subsequent reply appears to mostly veer away from the the information that I conveyed, despite it being factual in nature.

It seems that you're primarily interested in maintaining your stance, even if it doesn't necessarily reflect the objective truths of reality... the real world facts, which is a shame.

Personally-speaking, I'd rather be proven wrong and acquire new knowledge, but you clearly possess the polar opposite mind-set.

I actually researched my reply to your post prior to submitting it, but that doesn't matter to you, does it?

You're going to believe, whatever you want to believe, no matter what.

[Ilya Muromets]

EO -

I more or less responded to you point by point. Your response to me is just generalities, non distinct complaints and lamentations. Exactly what "real world facts and information" are you saying I avoided?

In short, I do not like the drug testing the way it is. I feel that it is being administered by suspect private parties with suspect connections and it is politicized and corrupt. I would rather see no drug testing at all than what I am seeing now. I've dealt with many out and out criminal junkies. I don't like them. I can see some of them pretty plainly in boxing - which doesn't exactly attract the best class of people, especially these days - and the ones I see are not the ones that the VADAS and WADAS and whatever they are called seem to be interested in.

[Ilya Muromets]

... Povetkin could probably win a law suit if he hired an honest attorney who couldn't be bought off by Wilder's side -- and was extremely competent and persuasive.[/b]

And let's say if the kangaroo court trial wasn't held in...New York City!

[Kalan]

It doesn’t matter where the trial is held. If you don't have an honest and competent lawyer who has the ability to question members of the jury and come up with an honest jury who hasn't been bought off by using his peremptory challenges to exclude oily characters who’ve obviously been coached to seem friendly and cooperative to the opposing lawyer. You get rid of planted jury members.. It’s a chess game.

A competent lawyer knows how to find and hire honest and competent expert witnesses and subpoena uncooperative witnesses who know the scoop. He can make liars out of them and tear them apart – which is multiply important in technical cases like this – that can be made to sound like technical mishmash to the jury by the opposing lawyers. You have to clear away all their slop and make the issues clear and understandable to an 8th grader – that is the dumbest and most headstrong member of the jury.

Opposing lawyers will not only lie their asses off---because they know that’s the only way they can possibly win---in cases where there’s a multi-million dollar grievance at stake they will fix juries... fix judges... fix opposing lawyers... buying them all off for a few million to get a settlement of 35 million.

The deal is “when we get paid, you get paid” because of appeals, delays, reductions in the settlement amount and other legal brush that have to be cut through, but they frequently are because carrying the process on and continuing the fight is expensive. But where the trial is held is not a big issue because the legal process can be corrupted by moneyed special interests wherever you are. You’re only going to win if you have a great legal team.

[Counter-puncher]