Conor Benn v Cedrick Peynaud

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Think clear rounds were one and two for Peynaud and rounds 5 and 6 for Benn. I think you would say Benn also won the 4th so on my card it was
7 - 10
9 - 10
9 - 10
10 - 9
10 - 8
10 - 8

A draw but I could go with Benn by one if you give him the third.

Whatever, I think we have confirmation on what we knew anyway, that Benn has serious limitations and he is not his dad. Snr was forged in the streets, a tough, poorer upbringing, the army etc while Jnr was a spoiled rich kid despite what he pretends. I almost feel disloyal that I cheer against him as the old man is in my top 5 fav all time fighters
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It's being called a fight of the year contender.
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ya benn seriously limited. theyve just been tricking ppl into thinking hes a monster with very very soft opposition. even knowledgable fans here had started talking him up. keep in mind this french guy is 5-5 and was ranked outside the top 400, but he at least had some good kickboxing experience. wasnt really all that much better than harlem eubank was against his french guy.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 13 Dec 2017, 17:26 It's being called a fight of the year contender.
I'm only surprised Adam Smith didn't mention Morales Barrera.
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milpool wrote: 13 Dec 2017, 17:31
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 13 Dec 2017, 17:26 It's being called a fight of the year contender.
I'm only surprised Adam Smith didn't mention Morales Barrera.
Or Castillo-Corrales....

Amazing. That’s the real upset of the night
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It was a daft result but entirely expected.
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jamamb wrote: 13 Dec 2017, 17:29 ya benn seriously limited. theyve just been tricking ppl into thinking hes a monster with very very soft opposition. even knowledgable fans here had started talking him up. keep in mind this french guy is 5-5 and was ranked outside the top 400, but he at least had some good kickboxing experience. wasnt really all that much better than harlem eubank was against his french guy.
I said all along not to get excited...
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I've not bin sold on him since the get go either, another built up fighter for the casuals imo, can't see him reaching any decent levels
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For the first time ever my score card was the same as Bellews.
What a basic performance from Benn. So easy to hit against a low level opponent. Lucky to get the win and his stock dropped in my opinion.
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Can someone tell me what bellew is talking about with the last round saying maybe it should be scored a 10-7 because he nearly had the stoppage is it just me or is that bollocks
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craigjenkins05 wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 04:45 Can someone tell me what bellew is talking about with the last round saying maybe it should be scored a 10-7 because he nearly had the stoppage is it just me or is that bollocks
He was covering his arse in front of his paymasters.
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This was the best six rounder I have seen in years.

But the fact that Benn is having fight of the year contenders against journeymen should be a stark reminder of exactly how average he is.

If he had a different surname, he would not be getting these opportunities.
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Yes the scoring was wide, yes Benn is being looked after, yes he is still very much an apprentice, and yes that was a great fight.
People will pay to watch him and not because of his name.
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Coco wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 05:53 Yes the scoring was wide, yes Benn is being looked after, yes he is still very much an apprentice, and yes that was a great fight.
People will pay to watch him and not because of his name.
I agree. It was a stonking 6 rounder from a boxing fan point of view. But if he has to struggle through a guy who isn't even a journeyman, just a low level fighter, what happens when Benn steps up?
I think the first puncher with a winning record he faces, he gets KO'ed.
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KiwiRider wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 06:04
Coco wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 05:53 Yes the scoring was wide, yes Benn is being looked after, yes he is still very much an apprentice, and yes that was a great fight.
People will pay to watch him and not because of his name.
I agree. It was a stonking 6 rounder from a boxing fan point of view. But if he has to struggle through a guy who isn't even a journeyman, just a low level fighter, what happens when Benn steps up?
I think the first puncher with a winning record he faces, he gets KO'ed.
It's vital Eddie keeps him winning, a couple of big KO losses will finish him for good.
Let's see how he improves, he obviously will be given the opportunity.
Eubank Jr had limited amateur experience and has progressed really well.
Maybe Conor doesn't have his fathers talent but he looks to have real bottle and a fighting mindset and a decent dig at this level.
The French kid was nowhere near as bad as people are making out.
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Post by Mimmy »

Eddie Hearn says it all.

Conor Benn very average (in that fight)



Benn is just wide open all the time so its not surprising that he got tagged. Its taken 11 fights for Benn to get a taste of what boxing is all about and he almost lost the fight. Tell you what hes marked up as eff too.

Benn has been believing all the hype about himself because its him who preaches it on Twitter, I hope this fight was a wake up call for him and he can move on but have a different mindset that actually he's not all hes been made out to be.

Peynaud isnt even in the top 100 and Benn has now had 11 fights. How many more before he gets a taste of a minor title? At the rate he is going he will be fighting weak journeymen for another year at least so how many will that be? Another 10 next year?

By the time he they think hes ready for a British title fight he will have had at least 20 fights which isnt bad because he is learning the art to get there. I just think there are other lads who are ahead of him at this stage. I dont want to slag the lad off as he has had no amateur experience and maybe hes getting on these high profile shows because of his name.

Its back to the drawing board for him at this stage to work out where he actually goes and who he fights. I dont think you can be matching him up with a lad who has a punch or who has had lots of fights and experience even though he doesnt have many wins on his record. Its a difficult one as Benn will be going back to fighting very weak novices who no one has ever heard of.
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Conor Benn will be retired by the end of 2019 :zzz:
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now with this will he be taken even slower?
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jamamb wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 06:44 the french guys just some low level guy of the type other matchroom prospects breeze through in uncompetetive undercard fights no one really cares about. benns opposition has been so bad that this guy outside the top 400 is a step up

all the cans there to fall over just made some ppl believe benn was getting a lot better and ironing things out. thats why it means little till shown at a higher level.

now with this will he be taken even slower?
slower in terms of what?

I am guessing 2018 will be another 10 fights but at the lower level than has been upto now. Or at least until they are confident that stepping up to around top 100
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Cracking scrap! You could see something like this happening to Benn, he is far to open - I'm not completely convinced if that will change either, it's just his style.

Rematch on the Brook card?
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slower like in terms of opposition and how fast hes moved. like id think it might push back future steps up and that theyll be even smaller
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Post by daviddee »

This was a simple fight to score Peynaud won the first 4 rounds.. He almost stopped Benn in the 4th how anyone can give Benn that round is beyond me.. 56-54 Peynaud it should of been Peynaud gassed trying to stop him in the 4th.. Scoring was a disgrace
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jamamb wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 06:57 slower like in terms of opposition and how fast hes moved. like id think it might push back future steps up and that theyll be even smaller
Theyve got to keep moving him I think otherwise he wont learn. Hes 21 so plenty of time but would 3 or 4 fights next year help him develop quicker than another 10 next year against lower competition?

I'm not sure how much the lad will be making per fight upto now but id get the money in as quick as I can and have 10 fights against lower level.

for me hes marking up really easy and if this is what a ranked 400 can do what will happen when he does step up? You dont get marked up like that if you have a decent defense so thats the indication for me that Benn really needs some help in that area.

Its difficult when you have had a dad that was a true warrior and you want to be in that league. The issue for me is that Benn has had too much verbal diarrhea on social media and needs to be held back from that too, he's actually believing what hes saying.
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In his early fights, Conor Benn looked fairly raw with little defence and guilty of swinging wildly hoping for the big knockout hayemaker.
I can't remember which fight it was, but he had looked far more controlled recently and begining to make some marked improvements. However, last night was a return to his wild early fights and I felt this was because the Frenchman came at him and it was as if he didn't know how to handle someone actually giving him a fight rather than just covering up and trying to survive.
Benn has shown some decent glimpses in his short career so far but I think the lesson from last night was that there is still a lot of work to be done before he moves up to the next level.
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That was a great scrap.

As for Benn..... I do not rate him what so ever, how can you? I know its early days but that was a pick um fight against very average opposition .

He seems to talk out of his arse to, all the humble garbage and " I have earned big money and spent big money, I know what that life is about now " He's fought no one and earned very little
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