Conor Benn v Cedrick Peynaud

[Stuarty]

Great little fight but it's exposed Benn in a big way. I think most of us already knew about his limitations etc... I had the French guy winning 56-54. Thought the scoring was pure AIDS! All it does it detract from what a good fight it was. Benn will be doing well to challenge for a British title. Can't see him winning the Lonsdale belt tbh.

[tobyh5]

Great little fight but it's exposed Benn in a big way. I think most of us already knew about his limitations etc... I had the French guy winning 56-54. Thought the scoring was pure AIDS! All it does it detract from what a good fight it was. Benn will be doing well to challenge for a British title. Can't see him winning the Lonsdale belt tbh.

Not sure why now, but I gave Benn the 4th last night when I sat back at the end, maybe Bellew said something which clouded my mind. I just re-watched as I wanted to argue against your scorecard as I had it a draw or point to Benn but I was wrong as 4th is easily a Peynaud round - dominated the first minute, hit Benn flush and hurt him, middle minute Benn landed a couple shots, all a bit 50-50 and last minute Peynaud edged it just but even if not, Benn did nothing to reclaim ground lost in that first minute.

How did you have the 3rd round? Both had good moments and caught the other flush and hurt the other. I think we have some definite scored rounds or 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 with the 3rd being one I am unsure of
1. 10-7
2. 10-9
3. .....
4. 10-9
5. 8-10
6. 8-10

So that is 45-46 to Peynaud with the third either making it a draw or Peynaud by 2 points, as I assume you had it.

But give Benn a 10-7 in the last round and the third and it is potentially now 55-54 to Benn.

For me, totally then down to the third and whether the final round was 10-8 or 10-7.

Three point win for Benn is impossible, that is seriously effed up.

[littlepug]

Peynaud should be given a bit more credit I think, just been looking at his record and the records of his opponents and to be honest if I had of looked earlier I would of backed him to spring an upset, deserves a rematch for sure but can see Benn swerving him.

[cutsman]

slower like in terms of opposition and how fast hes moved. like id think it might push back future steps up and that theyll be even smaller

Best option for his next fight is a rematch. It's a fight people will want to watch and it gives Benn a chance to learn, regroup and put in the type of performance he should have done first time around. Then he can proceed with his career as planned.

[samwbr]

slower like in terms of opposition and how fast hes moved. like id think it might push back future steps up and that theyll be even smaller

Best option for his next fight is a rematch. It's a fight people will want to watch and it gives Benn a chance to learn, regroup and put in the type of performance he should have done first time around. Then he can proceed with his career as planned.

Peynaud probably won't leave the decision to the matchroom commentary team next time.

[Mimmy]

slower like in terms of opposition and how fast hes moved. like id think it might push back future steps up and that theyll be even smaller

Best option for his next fight is a rematch. It's a fight people will want to watch and it gives Benn a chance to learn, regroup and put in the type of performance he should have done first time around. Then he can proceed with his career as planned.

Eddie wont want a rematch, their not going to risk it. While I think Benn would proberly win in comfortable fashion if there was a rematch I doubt his handlers will want to risk Benn getting beat by a average journeyman ranked 400 in the the world.

Benn will be out next year and will fight a few specially chosen journeymen along the way to more specially chosen journeymen to finish off the year.

[Twinkle Toes]

Not sure Benn has it to be honest. He's young enough, but never in this world should he be getting done over like that at this stage of his career.

He's had too much smoke blown up his arse in my opinion - He talks some proper bollocks too.

[KiwiRider]

slower like in terms of opposition and how fast hes moved. like id think it might push back future steps up and that theyll be even smaller

Best option for his next fight is a rematch. It's a fight people will want to watch and it gives Benn a chance to learn, regroup and put in the type of performance he should have done first time around. Then he can proceed with his career as planned.

Eddie wont want a rematch, their not going to risk it. While I think Benn would proberly win in comfortable fashion if there was a rematch I doubt his handlers will want to risk Benn getting beat by a average journeyman ranked 400 in the the world.

Benn will be out next year and will fight a few specially chosen journeymen along the way to more specially chosen journeymen to finish off the year.

Sure Benn could win the rematch, but he could just as easily get knocked out. It will take a while to train some defensive skills into him. He was just so wide open, and I expect evey potential live opponent to watch and learn from that fight how to beat him

[gobbles]

I scored it.

10/7
10/9
10/9
9/10
8/10
8/10

55-55 a draw. If Peynaud stayed on his feet in either the last 2 rounds he would have won on my score card.

Got to be a rematch though.

How did you give the 4th to Benn? He only landed one body shot and was caught by about 10 head shots. Scoring of that round by Bellew, and the commentary, was a total Sky swizz job

[bripez]

He is somehow ranked number 16 - when you look at the names in front of him there is no way he gets near a British title.

I predict he goes down the IBO EU type route, billing him as the European champion or something.

On his latest fight, it is a sickener when you see these foreign lads who are brought over for a good hiding and when they don't follow the script they don't get any credit.

Anybody who says the old "need a knockout to get a draw in Germany" or whatever needs to look closer to home.

[Oiky]

He is somehow ranked number 16 - when you look at the names in front of him there is no way he gets near a British title.

I predict he goes down the IBO EU type route, billing him as the European champion or something.

On his latest fight, it is a sickener when you see these foreign lads who are brought over for a good hiding and when they don't follow the script they don't get any credit.

Anybody who says the old "need a knockout to get a draw in Germany" or whatever needs to look closer to home.

That IBO route is his best hope imo, don't think he's going anywhere fast though

[rd350lc]

He is somehow ranked number 16 - when you look at the names in front of him there is no way he gets near a British title.

I predict he goes down the IBO EU type route, billing him as the European champion or something.

On his latest fight, it is a sickener when you see these foreign lads who are brought over for a good hiding and when they don't follow the script they don't get any credit.

Anybody who says the old "need a knockout to get a draw in Germany" or whatever needs to look closer to home.

Totally agree , it used to really grate on me the situation in Germany , now it's as bad or worse on these shores .

Must put a few foreign fighters off of coming here now .

[Vincent stevenson]

I'm a big fan of Conor. And personally I thought he fought his bollocks oFf against a decent opponent. Who was trying to win. His heart can't be questioned after such a bad start. It's very easy to criticise the kid because due to his surname he is high profile even though he is still a novice. His skill levels are improving all the time. And because he has zero amateur experience he is still learning his trade. I personally believe that given the right guidance he will blossom into a really good fighter. He is still only a baby . Sky are doing him no favours by the way with all the hype. And how Eddie hearns moron of a referee had that score only Eddie and his moron referee knows. But I like this kid. He's super exciting he goes for it he can whack a bit and can be hurt himself. Can't ask for much more than that at this stage of his young career

[bripez]

I'm a big fan of Conor. And personally I thought he fought his bollocks oFf against a decent opponent. Who was trying to win. His heart can't be questioned after such a bad start. It's very easy to criticise the kid because due to his surname he is high profile even though he is still a novice. His skill levels are improving all the time. And because he has zero amateur experience he is still learning his trade. I personally believe that given the right guidance he will blossom into a really good fighter. He is still only a baby . Sky are doing him no favours by the way with all the hype. And how Eddie hearns moron of a referee had that score only Eddie and his moron referee knows. But I like this kid. He's super exciting he goes for it he can whack a bit and can be hurt himself. Can't ask for much more than that at this stage of his young career

Quite a few people have criticised the decision, but I have not seen anybody criticising Benn.

[Vincent stevenson]

I didn't say anybody was criticising him mate. Just posted my opinion on the lad.

[Vincent stevenson]

But now you come to mention it there's loads of posts on this thread criticising him . What the fxxk are you on about ??
Look back over the thread because I just have

[Rexob]

My prediction he will retire before he even gets a title shot. The name can only take him so far.

[Rexob]

Benn has the best of everything training wise the biggest promoter in the country absolutely everything you need apart from one thing and money can't buy that.

[littlepug]

I thinks somethings getting lost in all this.....it was a cracking little scrap ! That's what we are all after at the end of the day, regardless of dodgy decisions and criticism of skill levels ect we got 2 lads giving us a belting fight on a Wednesday night !

[Controversial]

Unfortunately losses are frowned upon these days, in times of old it wasn't unusual for guys to have several losses, they fought regularly and learnt the trade. Now fighters are steered to titles with the 0 intact. I like Benn, that fight will teach him more than knocking over 20 Mexican roadsweepers (as his dad used to call them) in 1 or 2 rounds. The kid has zero amateur background, he will improve. Whether he has it to be a world beater is another question. Good luck to him, cracking fight.

[littlepug]

Unfortunately losses are frowned upon these days, in times of old it wasn't unusual for guys to have several losses, they fought regularly and learnt the trade. Now fighters are steered to titles with the 0 intact. I like Benn, that fight will teach him more than knocking over 20 Mexican roadsweepers (as his dad used to call them) in 1 or 2 rounds. The kid has zero amateur background, he will improve. Whether he has it to be a world beater is another question. Good luck to him, cracking fight.

He fought amateur in oz but only had about a dozen or so, and I agree that fight will do him the world of good

[Controversial]

He fought amateur in oz but only had about a dozen or so

Cheers, yes just googled it and his amatuer record was 20-2, I could've sworn I read or heard he hadn't had any. Even so it doesn't look like he fought at a high level as an AM and not a lot of fights either.

[BrumBlue]

Finally got round to watching this. I had it...

7-10
9-10
10-9
9-10
10-8
10-8

55-55 draw. The only contentious round for me was the 3rd, the rest was clear cut.

[KiwiRider]

I thinks somethings getting lost in all this.....it was a cracking little scrap ! That's what we are all after at the end of the day, regardless of dodgy decisions and criticism of skill levels ect we got 2 lads giving us a belting fight on a Wednesday night !

I don't think anyone from a fan point of view would argue with you, it was a cracker fight.
The point is;
1,Benn should have dealt with this level opponent.
2,Benn was wide open defensively.
3, The scoring was dubious, and Benn should have lost or drawn.
4, After all the hype of Benn being destined for greatness, this fight showed he will struggle at the pointy end of domestic fights without some serious remedial training.

[Andrew]

This was a simple fight to score Peynaud won the first 4 rounds.. He almost stopped Benn in the 4th how anyone can give Benn that round is beyond me.. 56-54 Peynaud it should of been Peynaud gassed trying to stop him in the 4th.. Scoring was a disgrace

Pretty much my thoughts as well