Are you serious? The version of MAB that fought kahn was nowhere near the one that fought pac. JMM woduld have killed Gary Russell or Nicholas Walters who never beat anyone good.Kalan wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 20:09I have to disagree with you here... Pacquiao got knocked out by mediocre opposition when he had 30 fights or so... Barrera got the shitt beat out of him by Amir Khan... You have to actually watch the fight... Morales quit like a coward vs Pac.Ricky_ wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 16:21 Is Loma consudered in his "prime". I would say no. He also lacks the kind of quality opposition Pacman got to face, his best performances were probably the destructions of Barrera & Morales. It was on nights like those the Pacman wrote himself into greatness. Could Loma have lived with that version of the Pacman? I need to see someone force Loma through the gears. Lomachenko was vicious against Roman Martinez, could he dispatch of a fighter in the vein of Eric Morales in similar fashion? I can't wait to find out - there's more to come from Vasyl
I don't see anybody that Pacquiao beat on the way up to match the boxing and punching skills of Gary Russell, Nicholas Walters, and Guillermo Rignodeaux who only lost to Lomachenko and are otherwise undefeated... Barrera got cleaned up by Jr Jones twice and Jr was a chinny kid... At one time Morales lost 5 of 6 fights and he looked fkking terrible...
Lomachenko is in his prime right now... Because he's beating the crap out of the best ... and nobody wants to fight him.
loma - pac, prime for prime, who you got?
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I understand. I can still be a fan of someone I thought was juicing. But then again, I have felt that most, if not all, are using something at their level.Ricky_ wrote: ↑15 Dec 2017, 20:35It's ironic really - the ped accusations only came about when Mayeweather ducked Pacquiao - and then lost a defamation case and paid Pacquiao out of court. But the really irony is Pac never failed a drugs test, but Floyd got busted.Impractical Poster wrote: ↑15 Dec 2017, 20:14I tend to agree with Badhusker on this one.
I was a huge fan of Manny during his hayday. But, if he was clean, I'd be extremely surprised.
I turned a blind eye during the whole, "I'm afraid of needles" thing at the time. But, if I'm honest with myself, that was a mask of an excuse. Plus, his rematch performances against Morales were like almost a different animal. Maybe he was clean. In my opinion, he wasn't. But, he never tested positive, so it's all speculation.
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At this point, Lomachenko makes Manny look the way Manny made DLH look.
Manny is done, BUT
It's better for him to fight at 140 against lightweights. I want to see this.
The next real full 147 pound fighter Manny Pacquiao fights will put Manny and his career to sleep.