jewboypgh wrote: ↑15 Dec 2017, 09:27
If he stops sniffing blow, trains and loses the weight, he can crush wilder and Joshua.
Look what he did to klitchko.
He didn't exactly crush Klitschko though did he? What he did was to totally bamboozle a boxer who didn't know how to cope with him. Why? Because Wlad was used to having the physical advantages of height, reach, and mobility around which he built his style. Suddenly he was unable to just sway back out of range of counters and didn't have the superior strength to manhandle Fury in the clinches. Landing his jab was difficult enough and Fury was never in one place long enough for Wlad to set himself to throw the right hand. Klitschko was used to having a relatively static target. It didn't help that his long period of dominance had bred a little complacency.
Would it have made a difference in the rematch? I believe Wlad would have been in the same shape he was for Joshua. If anyone could have found a way to win in these circumstances, it would be Klitschko, but Tyson has everything in his toolbox you need to overcome a boxer with Wlad's attributes, and Fury would have been Wlad's biggest challenge (both literally and figuratively) at any stage of his career.
The fight was horrible to watch but Fury can rightfully boast that unlike AJ, he never came close to losing to Wlad.
Would Tyson at his peak have beaten Wilder? I'd have to say 'probably' although at some stage Wilder would surely have to get through with a big right hand, then it would get very interesting. Wilder's power is incomparable to Steve Cunningham's and we all know what happened there, so my 'probably' is not backed by a great deal of confidence.
Would Fury at his peak have beaten Joshua? Now that's a tough one and that's why the prospect of these two fighting is as widely anticipated as it is, despite all the obstacles. Joshua doesn't handle movement as well as he might, and a peak Tyson would have the elusiveness and the engine to exploit any stamina deficiency that AJ shows signs of having. At the same time when I said Wilder must surely land at some stage, AJ has the technique to find the target more consistently than Wilder would. Although Josh probably doesn't hit as hard as Deontay, as USS Cunningham showed a smaller calibre shell can still do significant damage, and compared to Cunningham's the difference in power between Joshua and Wilder is marginal.
Could (a peak) Tyson keep clear of Joshua long enough to outlast him? I'm going to say 'No' but I couldn't in all honesty discount the possibility, it would be very interesting to find out.