Heavyweight Truth
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BAD INTENTIONS
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Heavyweight Truth
They are still bums.
This heavyweight "REVIVAL" is just Wlad getting old.
6 years ago,
Joshua, Wilder, Ortiz, Fury and Parker would all be Wlad KO victims.
How can you ignore that, and just salivate over bums?
Makes me think most of you here just desire big men.
Just having big parents shouldn't garner a human more attention.
Heavyweights are bums.
Let's give the cruisers more TV time and attention.
This heavyweight "REVIVAL" is just Wlad getting old.
6 years ago,
Joshua, Wilder, Ortiz, Fury and Parker would all be Wlad KO victims.
How can you ignore that, and just salivate over bums?
Makes me think most of you here just desire big men.
Just having big parents shouldn't garner a human more attention.
Heavyweights are bums.
Let's give the cruisers more TV time and attention.
Last edited by BAD INTENTIONS on 16 Dec 2017, 17:17, edited 1 time in total.
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asdfjkl
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Re: Heavyweight Truth
So just because cruiserweights are smaller they should get more attention?
Re: Heavyweight Truth
aj and wlder are two of my favourtes but outsde them and maybe a few others overall the dvson s pretty bad and the only where every other guys overweight. cruser has power speed and better conditioning.
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BAD INTENTIONS
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Re: Heavyweight Truth
and pov shouldve lost to a cruiser. huc beat his ass.
Re: Heavyweight Truth
The HW division always has dips and troughs. It's only a dip at the moment, at least it's not a trough
Parker and Ortiz would probably get dropped by a 42 year old Wlad anyway.
Parker and Ortiz would probably get dropped by a 42 year old Wlad anyway.
Re: Heavyweight Truth
Shitt you've got to be toking!!! ... Wladimir couldn't do crap to Bryant Jennings for 12 rounds... Ortiz was KILLING Jennings from the 1st round... He was smoking his ass all the way with right hooks and uppercuts Wlad never threw.
The Heavyweight Division has never been stronger...
You’re not impressed with Ortiz? … A 6’4” X 245lb slick boxing southpaw with murderous power in both hands??? I guess you’re not impressed by the money that May-Mac drew either.
TOP 40 HEAVYWEIGHTS TODAY... Strongest and most international the top ranks have ever been.
1. Anthony Joshua... 2. Luis Ortiz... 3. Deontay Wilder... 4. Alexander Povetkin... 5. Joseph Parker... 6. Jarrell Miller... 7. Dominic Breazeale... 8. Andy Ruiz... 9. Carlos Takam... 10. Dillian Whyte 11. Kubrat Pulev... 12. Hughie Fury... 13. David Haye... 14. Bryant Jennings... 15. Johann Duhaupas... 16. Tom Schwarz... 17. Gerald Washington... 18. Charles Martin... 19. Christian Hammer... 20. Oscar Rivas... 21. Izuagbe Ugonoh... 22. Jun Long Zhang 23. Dereck Chisora... 24. Ruslan Chagaev... 25. Otto Wallin... 26. Artur Szpilka... 27. Amir Mansour… 28. Bermane Stiverne... 29. Czar Glazkov... 30. Robert Helenius... 31. Eric Molina... 32. Tony Bellew… 33. Malik Scott... 34. Erkan Tepper... 35. Alexander Ustinov... 36. Adam Kownacki... 37. Lucas Browne... 38. Francesco Pianeta... 39. Carlos Negron... 40. Andriy Rudenko
Take a quick look at some Puke City Heavyweight Title Challengers from the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s:
Don Cockell... Roland LaStarza... Tom McNeely... Pete Rademacher... Roy Harris... Brian London... Henry Cooper... Karl Mildenbugger... Alfredo Evangelista... Chuck Wepner... Jean Pierre Coopman... Leon Stinks... Terry Daniels... Dave Zyglewitz... Manuel Ramos... Ron Stander... Richard Dunn...
How did those little fart bags ever get title shots???
Re: Heavyweight Truth
povetkin got his ass beaten around the ring 
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asdfjkl
- Heavyweight

Re: Heavyweight Truth
Not, how do you?
Re: Heavyweight Truth
Kalan, there was a time when I found Ortiz exciting as a potential candidate for a belt. But now I would need reconvincing. I feel father time may have got to him. Too old and too inactive.
Thanks for the effort in response to my post, I enjoyed reading that and I do see your point.
As for fart bags getting an inexplicable title shot, Stiverne ring any bells?
He didn't even get to hear the first bell
Thanks for the effort in response to my post, I enjoyed reading that and I do see your point.
As for fart bags getting an inexplicable title shot, Stiverne ring any bells?
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Re: Heavyweight Truth
Jenning was the fight everyone saw Wlad as old and vulnerable.Kalan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 04:49Shitt you've got to be toking!!! ... Wladimir couldn't do crap to Bryant Jennings for 12 rounds... Ortiz was KILLING Jennings from the 1st round... He was smoking his ass all the way with right hooks and uppercuts Wlad never threw.
The Heavyweight Division has never been stronger...
You’re not impressed with Ortiz? … A 6’4” X 245lb slick boxing southpaw with murderous power in both hands??? I guess you’re not impressed by the money that May-Mac drew either.
TOP 40 HEAVYWEIGHTS TODAY... Strongest and most international the top ranks have ever been.
1. Anthony Joshua... 2. Luis Ortiz... 3. Deontay Wilder... 4. Alexander Povetkin... 5. Joseph Parker... 6. Jarrell Miller... 7. Dominic Breazeale... 8. Andy Ruiz... 9. Carlos Takam... 10. Dillian Whyte 11. Kubrat Pulev... 12. Hughie Fury... 13. David Haye... 14. Bryant Jennings... 15. Johann Duhaupas... 16. Tom Schwarz... 17. Gerald Washington... 18. Charles Martin... 19. Christian Hammer... 20. Oscar Rivas... 21. Izuagbe Ugonoh... 22. Jun Long Zhang 23. Dereck Chisora... 24. Ruslan Chagaev... 25. Otto Wallin... 26. Artur Szpilka... 27. Amir Mansour… 28. Bermane Stiverne... 29. Czar Glazkov... 30. Robert Helenius... 31. Eric Molina... 32. Tony Bellew… 33. Malik Scott... 34. Erkan Tepper... 35. Alexander Ustinov... 36. Adam Kownacki... 37. Lucas Browne... 38. Francesco Pianeta... 39. Carlos Negron... 40. Andriy Rudenko
Take a quick look at some Puke City Heavyweight Title Challengers from the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s:
Don Cockell... Roland LaStarza... Tom McNeely... Pete Rademacher... Roy Harris... Brian London... Henry Cooper... Karl Mildenbugger... Alfredo Evangelista... Chuck Wepner... Jean Pierre Coopman... Leon Stinks... Terry Daniels... Dave Zyglewitz... Manuel Ramos... Ron Stander... Richard Dunn...
How did those little fart bags ever get title shots???
Funny how you pick that one out.
Povetkin is competitive with today's top heavyweights.
Wlad made him look feeble.
All of these guys are just Wlad 2011 KO victims.
Just admit you love you some big men.
Re: Heavyweight Truth
Kalan is special.......EdBAD INTENTIONS wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 17:20Jenning was the fight everyone saw Wlad as old and vulnerable.Kalan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 04:49Shitt you've got to be toking!!! ... Wladimir couldn't do crap to Bryant Jennings for 12 rounds... Ortiz was KILLING Jennings from the 1st round... He was smoking his ass all the way with right hooks and uppercuts Wlad never threw.
The Heavyweight Division has never been stronger...
You’re not impressed with Ortiz? … A 6’4” X 245lb slick boxing southpaw with murderous power in both hands??? I guess you’re not impressed by the money that May-Mac drew either.
TOP 40 HEAVYWEIGHTS TODAY... Strongest and most international the top ranks have ever been.
1. Anthony Joshua... 2. Luis Ortiz... 3. Deontay Wilder... 4. Alexander Povetkin... 5. Joseph Parker... 6. Jarrell Miller... 7. Dominic Breazeale... 8. Andy Ruiz... 9. Carlos Takam... 10. Dillian Whyte 11. Kubrat Pulev... 12. Hughie Fury... 13. David Haye... 14. Bryant Jennings... 15. Johann Duhaupas... 16. Tom Schwarz... 17. Gerald Washington... 18. Charles Martin... 19. Christian Hammer... 20. Oscar Rivas... 21. Izuagbe Ugonoh... 22. Jun Long Zhang 23. Dereck Chisora... 24. Ruslan Chagaev... 25. Otto Wallin... 26. Artur Szpilka... 27. Amir Mansour… 28. Bermane Stiverne... 29. Czar Glazkov... 30. Robert Helenius... 31. Eric Molina... 32. Tony Bellew… 33. Malik Scott... 34. Erkan Tepper... 35. Alexander Ustinov... 36. Adam Kownacki... 37. Lucas Browne... 38. Francesco Pianeta... 39. Carlos Negron... 40. Andriy Rudenko
Take a quick look at some Puke City Heavyweight Title Challengers from the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s:
Don Cockell... Roland LaStarza... Tom McNeely... Pete Rademacher... Roy Harris... Brian London... Henry Cooper... Karl Mildenbugger... Alfredo Evangelista... Chuck Wepner... Jean Pierre Coopman... Leon Stinks... Terry Daniels... Dave Zyglewitz... Manuel Ramos... Ron Stander... Richard Dunn...
How did those little fart bags ever get title shots???
Funny how you pick that one out.
Povetkin is competitive with today's top heavyweights.
Wlad made him look feeble.
All of these guys are just Wlad 2011 KO victims.
Just admit you love you some big men.
Re: Heavyweight Truth
I don't think anybody was exactly pretending like this was some great era of Heavyweights or anything so I don't know what all the hubbub is about to begin with.
Re: Heavyweight Truth
No, it isn't anything special. The thread on HW prospects confirmed it pretty much.
We have a time when one really great HW retired, one great HW filled his shoes, one HW who thinks he is great but is still unproven, and finally one once great HW who might yet be that again.
It could be worse
Re: Heavyweight Truth
KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 18:29No, it isn't anything special. The thread on HW prospects confirmed it pretty much.
We have a time when one really great HW retired, one great HW filled his shoes, one HW who thinks he is great but is still unproven, and finally one once great HW who might yet be that again.
It could be worse![]()
Who's the once great yet to be that again?
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Tyson Fury (excuse my overzelous fan-boy adorationgilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 18:32KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 18:29No, it isn't anything special. The thread on HW prospects confirmed it pretty much.
We have a time when one really great HW retired, one great HW filled his shoes, one HW who thinks he is great but is still unproven, and finally one once great HW who might yet be that again.
It could be worse![]()
Who's the once great yet to be that again?
Re: Heavyweight Truth
He's never been great nor will he ever be, but you're excused.KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 19:16Tyson Fury (excuse my overzelous fan-boy adorationgilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 18:32KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 18:29
No, it isn't anything special. The thread on HW prospects confirmed it pretty much.
We have a time when one really great HW retired, one great HW filled his shoes, one HW who thinks he is great but is still unproven, and finally one once great HW who might yet be that again.
It could be worse![]()
Who's the once great yet to be that again?)
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Re: Heavyweight Truth
Dude just called Tyson Fury “once great”.
And they’re many similar opinions.
People think Joshua is good?
He got taken to the limit by a washed up Wlad.
I think that qualifies a hubbub.
Re: Heavyweight Truth
Boxers don't have to be great to have entertaining matches, and there's a few interesting possible ones.
Re: Heavyweight Truth
It's not a vintage era but we have three belt holders (all undefeated) and an undefeated former champion waiting in the wings. Any combination of these chaps could create decent, competitive fights, and isn't that what we all want to see?
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Thomastearns
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Re: Heavyweight Truth
Whether anybody likes it not the Klitschko's are among the greatest heavyweights we've ever seen.
But now we have Joshua, Wilder, Povetkin and a whole new generation of heavyweights coming up.
Anthony Joshua is the top man right now. He fights regularly and beat the previous top man. The great thing is that he still trying to learn and improve. If he does he will remain on top for as long as he wants to. A modern day Joe Louis no less.
His only serious rival right now might be Deontay Wilder, but that's a fight for later.
But now we have Joshua, Wilder, Povetkin and a whole new generation of heavyweights coming up.
Anthony Joshua is the top man right now. He fights regularly and beat the previous top man. The great thing is that he still trying to learn and improve. If he does he will remain on top for as long as he wants to. A modern day Joe Louis no less.
His only serious rival right now might be Deontay Wilder, but that's a fight for later.
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I'm impressed Gil. I winced when I read Kiwi's appeal, knowing your feelings toward Fury. I thought it was like a subordinate of Heinrich Himmler asking him for time-off for Yom Kippur
Your restraint does you credit.