littlepug wrote: ↑18 Dec 2017, 10:56
Anyone else notice Joshua telling Lineker that he "held 3 of the 5 world titles", well done lad saying something misleading on a show like that, whoever heard that will have taken it as gospel, fecking pleb !
Lot of very good fighters have held the IBO belt. Just saying
Lots of very good boxers have held all kinds of sh1t titles, that doesn't bother me, what bothers me is one of British boxings poster boys on peak time tv with millions watching informing the uninformed that there are actually 5 legitimate world titles available ! To everyone who saw that, it is now a fact to them
littlepug wrote: ↑18 Dec 2017, 10:56
Anyone else notice Joshua telling Lineker that he "held 3 of the 5 world titles", well done lad saying something misleading on a show like that, whoever heard that will have taken it as gospel, fecking pleb !
Lot of very good fighters have held the IBO belt. Just saying
Yes indeed, WBAs + IBF + IBO = 3 World Title Belts.
banjo wrote: ↑18 Dec 2017, 06:24Mo Farah is massively popular though, Rea I imagine got a huge amount of the vote from Ulster and Peacock would have got a load of Strictly viewers voting for him.
All of that. Farah's doping charges don't seem to have reached public consciousness, and Rea's held back a bit by not competing in MotoGP (they pushed Toseland in 2007 and he still finished behind Hatton). But the main thing is that far fewer people vote than I'd have guessed. If you'd forced me to bet on the winner I'd have gone for Joshua and Peacock (dancing business, like you say), but now that I know how few votes decide the winner, it's loads more open than I thought.
Putting just a few quid on Farah would've made sense, because you could've arranged your bets to break even if one of the favourites won instead.
In recent years it's become a bit of a recognition award for those nearing the end of their career to an extent. Tony McCoy, Ryan Giggs and now Mo Farah all had much more successful years overall than the one where they won it, so it sort of has the look of a lifetime achievement of sorts.
Fair play to Farah and I think it's great that Rea made top three. Hadn't heard of the guy in third but Strictly seems to have helped!
banjo wrote: ↑18 Dec 2017, 06:24Mo Farah is massively popular though, Rea I imagine got a huge amount of the vote from Ulster and Peacock would have got a load of Strictly viewers voting for him.
All of that. Farah's doping charges don't seem to have reached public consciousness, and Rea's held back a bit by not competing in MotoGP (they pushed Toseland in 2007 and he still finished behind Hatton). But the main thing is that far fewer people vote than I'd have guessed. If you'd forced me to bet on the winner I'd have gone for Joshua and Peacock (dancing business, like you say), but now that I know how few votes decide the winner, it's loads more open than I thought.
Putting just a few quid on Farah would've made sense, because you could've arranged your bets to break even if one of the favourites won instead.
MotoGP isn't that popular over in the UK, Superbikes is way bigger and has a lot more exposure, so that doesn't really have a bearing on it in my opinion and like I said Rea is from Ulster, bike racing is like a religion over there.
banjo wrote: ↑18 Dec 2017, 06:24Mo Farah is massively popular though, Rea I imagine got a huge amount of the vote from Ulster and Peacock would have got a load of Strictly viewers voting for him.
All of that. Farah's doping charges don't seem to have reached public consciousness, and Rea's held back a bit by not competing in MotoGP (they pushed Toseland in 2007 and he still finished behind Hatton). But the main thing is that far fewer people vote than I'd have guessed. If you'd forced me to bet on the winner I'd have gone for Joshua and Peacock (dancing business, like you say), but now that I know how few votes decide the winner, it's loads more open than I thought.
Putting just a few quid on Farah would've made sense, because you could've arranged your bets to break even if one of the favourites won instead.
MotoGP isn't that popular over in the UK, Superbikes is way bigger and has a lot more exposure, so that doesn't really have a bearing on it in my opinion and like I said Rea is from Ulster, bike racing is like a religion over there.
Belfast is divided. Protestant, Catholic or Bike Racing.
banjo wrote: ↑19 Dec 2017, 06:00MotoGP isn't that popular over in the UK, Superbikes is way bigger and has a lot more exposure, so that doesn't really have a bearing on it in my opinion and like I said Rea is from Ulster, bike racing is like a religion over there.
I think minority sports do well because fans of those sports tend to be united behind the competitors when they go up against more established sports like football. If someone like Michael Dunlop or Ian Hutchinson were nominated everyone who likes road racing would vote for them. Millions turn out every week to watch football and Spurs get massive attendances, plus Kane is something of a media darling amongst English footballers; a seemingly ordinary, nice enough bloke who has a chance at breaking Shearer's record, but barely anyone votes for him.
Grilling Machine wrote: ↑18 Dec 2017, 22:37
All of that. Farah's doping charges don't seem to have reached public consciousness, and Rea's held back a bit by not competing in MotoGP (they pushed Toseland in 2007 and he still finished behind Hatton). But the main thing is that far fewer people vote than I'd have guessed. If you'd forced me to bet on the winner I'd have gone for Joshua and Peacock (dancing business, like you say), but now that I know how few votes decide the winner, it's loads more open than I thought.
Putting just a few quid on Farah would've made sense, because you could've arranged your bets to break even if one of the favourites won instead.
MotoGP isn't that popular over in the UK, Superbikes is way bigger and has a lot more exposure, so that doesn't really have a bearing on it in my opinion and like I said Rea is from Ulster, bike racing is like a religion over there.
Belfast is divided. Protestant, Catholic or Bike Racing.
Actually it's a sport that unites them, at the heights of the troubles Protestants and Catholics would be side by side having a few beers cheering on Joey Dunlop. Away from the racing they'd be kicking lumps out of each other. Joey bought a pub which is still run by his family today and the pub always had one rule - no religion or politics.
banjo wrote: ↑19 Dec 2017, 06:00MotoGP isn't that popular over in the UK, Superbikes is way bigger and has a lot more exposure, so that doesn't really have a bearing on it in my opinion and like I said Rea is from Ulster, bike racing is like a religion over there.
I think minority sports do well because fans of those sports tend to be united behind the competitors when they go up against more established sports like football. If someone like Michael Dunlop or Ian Hutchinson were nominated everyone who likes road racing would vote for them. Millions turn out every week to watch football and Spurs get massive attendances, plus Kane is something of a media darling amongst English footballers; a seemingly ordinary, nice enough bloke who has a chance at breaking Shearer's record, but barely anyone votes for him.
If Michael was nominated he'd probably win it, the Dunlop name is like royalty in motorcycle racing and Ulster, I mean Rea is popular but Dunlop is something else.
Naandrew wrote: ↑18 Dec 2017, 06:10
Fury did not get top 3
I want Tyson to knock AJ out in 2019 and go on to thank UKAD at that years SPOTY awards, which he wins, then slap Greg Rutherford whilst off his nut at the after party.
If "personality" was really equal to achievement then Tyson should have walked in 2015.
Love him or hate him, Tyson has got 'personality' in spades.
Grilling Machine wrote: ↑18 Dec 2017, 22:37
All of that. Farah's doping charges don't seem to have reached public consciousness, and Rea's held back a bit by not competing in MotoGP (they pushed Toseland in 2007 and he still finished behind Hatton). But the main thing is that far fewer people vote than I'd have guessed. If you'd forced me to bet on the winner I'd have gone for Joshua and Peacock (dancing business, like you say), but now that I know how few votes decide the winner, it's loads more open than I thought.
Putting just a few quid on Farah would've made sense, because you could've arranged your bets to break even if one of the favourites won instead.
MotoGP isn't that popular over in the UK, Superbikes is way bigger and has a lot more exposure, so that doesn't really have a bearing on it in my opinion and like I said Rea is from Ulster, bike racing is like a religion over there.
Belfast is divided. Protestant, Catholic or Bike Racing.
banjo wrote: ↑19 Dec 2017, 06:00MotoGP isn't that popular over in the UK, Superbikes is way bigger and has a lot more exposure, so that doesn't really have a bearing on it in my opinion and like I said Rea is from Ulster, bike racing is like a religion over there.
You're certainly right about the latter, and probably the former. My MotoGP thinking was for promotional reasons, where they'd have hyped him up as a man who beat Rossi.
MotoGP's still the premier series, if not the most popular, and more people have heard of Rossi than any other active racer. I imagine he's about level with Fogarty and Hailwood for UK fame, with only Sheene ahead.
