Active Boxers, Still Relevant, But Past Their Prime?

[Ruthless-RKO]

I think there is quite a handfull of boxers today, that have peaked and currently past it. But still relevant within the world titles mix.

Could be a healthy debate..

I had a few names I want to throw out there..

Broner, Frampton, Kovalev, Brook..

[Lackeos]

Broner and Frampton are terrible examples. Neither one has declined in the slightest, and Broner is still a baby (age-wise, I mean). Broner is currently divisional #5, and at his best, he was hardly any better than that. Frampton hasn't really declined even a little, other than barely losing to a guy he previously barely beat; but that falls within totally normal variance. Brook may also still be fully in his prime; it depends on how well his eye sockets heal.

Also, I should remark that the premise of this thread is way too broad, and there are simply too many available examples.

Heavyweight and cruiserweight fighters who accurately match the thread's premise:
David Haye quite obviously past his prime. Hasn't stopped fighting other high profile opponents, and hasn't exited boxrec's top 20 yet.
Tomasz Adamek his wins over decent journeymen / clubfighters Haumono and Kassi keep him relevant, and he is still relevant in as much as he's putting over other fighters like Szpilka and Molina.
Robert Helenius his prime basically ended when he injured his shoulder in 2011 and never fully bounced back. But he is still finding ways to stay relevant.
Denis Lebedev was at his peak when Huck robbed him in 2010, and lost some of his shine when roided Guillermo Jones abused him in 2013. But even at the age of 38, he is still involved in relevant fights.
Mike Perez people have been questioning whether Perez was 100% as early as 2014, and by the time Povetkin effortlessly flattened him in 2015, there was no doubt. And yet, he still found himself in a relevant battle with Briedis in 2017.
Steve Cunningham at best he was #1 at cruiserweight and #10 at heavyweight. Now he is #12 at cruiserweight and clearly would be worse at heavyweight. He was still somewhat close to his prime as recently as 2015 or so. But he's 41 years old, and I think the prime is over. Still, though, he recently put over the young contender Tabiti.
Danny Green hasn't returned to the level that he was at in 2010. But even at age 44, he is still scoring decent wins and retains a top 10 ranking on boxrec.
Krzysztof Wlodarczyk the last time we saw a prime Wlodarczyk was likely in 2013. He is now 36 and no longer in boxrec's top 20. However, he is still providing relevant fights, most recently with Gassiev.

[Tanzio]

3G, Krushedner, Rigo, TRex Jr, DeGale.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Broner is past his peak, doesn't matter about age, he did start at a young age to be fair. He's reached his best.. We'll never see the best Broner again.

Frampton is a bit of a throw up, i admit. I think we need to see how he fairs against Donaire. His last opponent, that including inactivity, which wasn't his fault, maybe have been a cause. But I guess time till eventually tell with him.

[SenorPipino]

Speaking of Donaire, that's a guy past his prime.

But apparently he still has some relevance.

[SenorPipino]

....and I wouldn't say Kovalev is past his prime.

He simply got slapped around twice by a fighter who was better than him.

[Ruthless-RKO]

....and I wouldn't say Kovalev is past his prime.

He simply got slapped around twice by a fighter who was better than him.

Well he's wasting his prime fighting guys that aren't even ranked by the WBO.. we'll neeed to wait and see with him. I think he's borderline.

[Badhusker]

Broner and Frampton are terrible examples. Neither one has declined in the slightest, and Broner is still a baby (age-wise, I mean). Broner is currently divisional #5, and at his best, he was hardly any better than that. Frampton hasn't really declined even a little, other than barely losing to a guy he previously barely beat; but that falls within totally normal variance. Brook may also still be fully in his prime; it depends on how well his eye sockets heal.

Also, I should remark that the premise of this thread is way too broad, and there are simply too many available examples.

Heavyweight and cruiserweight fighters who accurately match the thread's premise:
David Haye quite obviously past his prime. Hasn't stopped fighting other high profile opponents, and hasn't exited boxrec's top 20 yet.
Tomasz Adamek his wins over decent journeymen / clubfighters Haumono and Kassi keep him relevant, and he is still relevant in as much as he's putting over other fighters like Szpilka and Molina.
Robert Helenius his prime basically ended when he injured his shoulder in 2011 and never fully bounced back. But he is still finding ways to stay relevant.
Denis Lebedev was at his peak when Huck robbed him in 2010, and lost some of his shine when roided Guillermo Jones abused him in 2013. But even at the age of 38, he is still involved in relevant fights.
Mike Perez people have been questioning whether Perez was 100% as early as 2014, and by the time Povetkin effortlessly flattened him in 2015, there was no doubt. And yet, he still found himself in a relevant battle with Briedis in 2017.
Steve Cunningham at best he was #1 at cruiserweight and #10 at heavyweight. Now he is #12 at cruiserweight and clearly would be worse at heavyweight. He was still somewhat close to his prime as recently as 2015 or so. But he's 41 years old, and I think the prime is over. Still, though, he recently put over the young contender Tabiti.
Danny Green hasn't returned to the level that he was at in 2010. But even at age 44, he is still scoring decent wins and retains a top 10 ranking on boxrec.
Krzysztof Wlodarczyk the last time we saw a prime Wlodarczyk was likely in 2013. He is now 36 and no longer in boxrec's top 20. However, he is still providing relevant fights, most recently with Gassiev.

Good list.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Apart from Lebedev, are there any other world champions currently past their prime?

[KiwiRider]

I would like to say Chickenson. But it's hard to tell if he is past his prime because he hasn't fought any decent guys a champion should fight.
Let's just say he is eh?

[Lackeos]

Apart from Lebedev, are there any other world champions currently past their prime?

Arguably Andre Dirrell (interim titlist). He was great when he fought Froch. But his neurological recovery period after the Abraham foul was 5 years, and he hasn't really returned to top form.
If Rigondeaux hasn't vacated his super bantamweight belts, then he probably counts. I don't say he's past it due to the loss. He's just 37 and hasn't done anything since 2013 to prove that he's still top form, so he probably isn't. Generally 37-year-olds can be considered past their prime, except for when there is evidence that they aren't.
If Sosa - Gamboa was for a world title, then you would see Gamboa's name here. Also, Pacquiao would be here if Horn didn't rob him.

Most of the time, it is hard to be past-prime and still good enough to hold a belt, unless you were quite elite in your prime. Fighters like Pacquiao, Mayweather, Mosley, Hopkins, De La Hoya, etc. could pull this off. But you would rarely see a past-it Dawson, Bute, Margarito, or Celestino Caballero win a world title.

[Boxing Prospect]

Apart from Lebedev, are there any other world champions currently past their prime?

Suppose you could say Wanheng, Nietes, Mares, Linares, Golovkin, Groves, Stevenson, Lebedev

I guess

[Ruthless-RKO]

Suppose you could say Wanheng, Nietes, Mares, Linares, Golovkin, Groves, Stevenson, Lebedev

I guess

I would say Linares is exiting his prime. Wouldn't say he is past it just yet. Others I agree with you.. again Groves probably sitting on the fence too.

[world ranked]

Groves, Matthysse,Frampton, GGG on the fence about Linares.

[asdfjkl]

Povetkin, Luis Ortiz, Jun Long Zhang, Lucas Browne, Dereck Chisora, Amir Mansour, Jennings.

[Stuarty]

First name that springs to mind is Pacquiao. He's a million miles away from the guy who destroyed Hatton, Cotto, Margarito etc.... Still moves well but his output has declined. I think that bad KO loss to Marquez has definitely changed him as well as age and miles on the clock etc....

[Stuarty]

Frampton and Krusher still have plenty to offer on the world scene. I can't see Brook making much noise at 154. He'll be doing well to get past Rabchenko. That's an interesting fight and will let us know how much he's got left. If he wins that he should try n get a fight with Ali/Smith winner. If he wins that then hopefully cash out against Khan. Probably just wishful thinking there.

Broner is just a waste of fuckin space. Odious little cùnt......

[Boxing Prospect]

Yaegashi
Igarashi
Cuadras
R. Gonzalez
J. Gonzalez

[KiwiRider]

Povetkin, Luis Ortiz, Jun Long Zhang, Lucas Browne, Dereck Chisora, Amir Mansour, Jennings.

Yo do know there are other weight classes don't you?
HW is a novelty division most of the time. The real boxing takes place away from the buffet table

[asdfjkl]

Povetkin, Luis Ortiz, Jun Long Zhang, Lucas Browne, Dereck Chisora, Amir Mansour, Jennings.

Yo do know there are other weight classes don't you?
HW is a novelty division most of the time. The real boxing takes place away from the buffet table

Guillermo Rigondeaux, but let's get real heavyweight is the thing that really matthers, the babyleagues can be fun as well, but you just know that they can't ever get a real heavyweight down.

[Ruthless-RKO]

....and I wouldn't say Kovalev is past his prime.

He simply got slapped around twice by a fighter who was better than him.

He did't really do much vs. Chilemba. Just did enough to win..

[jamamb]

he won like 9 rounds vs chilemba and dropped him. next fight arguably beat an amazing fighter in sog.

losing competitively to arguable p4p #1 isnt really a good sign of decline. just shoes how fans are with losses.

[IKSRTFO]

I think there is quite a handfull of boxers today, that have peaked and currently past it. But still relevant within the world titles mix.

Could be a healthy debate..

I had a few names I want to throw out there..

Broner, Frampton, Kovalev, Brook..

All of them listed are still in their primes, just not as good as everyone thought they were. A few losses doesn't mean someone is past it, just means they lost to top competition which is the case in those guys. I especially thing Frampton is still in his prime and a top boxer. It's forgotten that he just beat Santa Cruz before he lost to Cruz, and he wasn't dominated.

[IKSRTFO]

Broner is past his peak, doesn't matter about age, he did start at a young age to be fair. He's reached his best.. We'll never see the best Broner again.

Frampton is a bit of a throw up, i admit. I think we need to see how he fairs against Donaire. His last opponent, that including inactivity, which wasn't his fault, maybe have been a cause. But I guess time till eventually tell with him.

Frampton literally has beaten EVERYONE he has gotten in the ring with. Even the one guy who beat him.

[gilgamesh]

Pacquiao (obviously)
Gamboa isn't completely irrelevant yet
Nonito Donaire
Rigondeaux
Orlando Salido
Adonis Stevenson would have to be past his best at his age, but being Champion still he's obviously relevant.