Mayweather says money for Lomachenko vs. Gervonta Davis is not there

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Mayweather says money for Lomachenko vs. Gervonta Davis is not there

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Floyd Mayweather Jr. says the money is inadequate right now for him to match his fighter former IBF super featherweight champion Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis (19-0, 18 KOs) against the Top Rank promoted WBO 130 lb. champion Vasyl ‘Hi-Tech’ Lomachenko (10-1, 8 KOs) for a fight in 2018.

“He’s not scared of Lomachenko,” said Mayweather to spam in talking about Gervonta Davis. “He’s my fighter. He wants the fight. I told him there’s no rush. He beat 3 undefeated fighters in a row. Lomachenko, he can fight. This is a guy that they’re talking about is pound-for-pound the best fighter. He’s making $1.2 million dollars. He better stop listening to his promoter. Don’t ever let nobody put no battery in your back to pump you up to talk disrespectful about no fighter that’s with me. I’m not hiding nobody. Tank wants to fight you.”

“We know that Rigondeaux is extremely small,” said Mayweather, in minimizing Lomachenko’s recent victory over the Cuban fighter. “I’d rather not be known as the pound-for-pound fighter in boxing and getting $6-8 million per fight. If you want to take bigger risks, you can be rewarded. That’s why Mikey Garcia is right here,” said Mayweather.

”As soon as I got away from Bob Arum, I started making crazy money,” said Mayweather. “If Lomachenko got $1.2 and the boy [Rigondeaux] got 400, that makes $1.6. I got fighters making that. Tank isn’t hiding from you. Tank wants to fight you. Tank wants to fight you. Tank asked me about fighting with you on more than one occasion. I told him if you fight all these big fights now, what are you going to do in 10 years from now? Remember, he’s 30-years-old, Tank. You got 10 years in front of you. You still got time. 7 years from now, he’ll [Lomachenko] be 37, so you A-OK. There’s no rush,” said Mayweather.

“If it’s a fight of that magnitude, the money has got to be better,” said Mayweather about the Lomachenko vs. Davis fight.“So, Lomachenko, tell your promoter [Bob Arum of Top Rank] to pay you. I like Lomachenko. I like his little boxing style. He’s got good little movement. He’s got good little speed. I respect him as a fighter. But at the end of the day, learn the business part. The business part is this: tell your promoter to pay you! You got $1.2. You should have got $2.5,” said Mayweather.

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The more I listen to Floyd about boxing business.. The more he makes sense. This guy truly knows the business side of boxing, having made hundreds of millions!
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so basically

'needs to marinate'

'wait till hes 37 and old'

its nothing genius there, just basic risk reward stuff.its at least clear as can be that tanks side dont want it now.

btw reading a lot of floyds stuff on loma he doesnt really seem to like him. recently called him stiff and robotic :lol:
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jamamb wrote: 31 Dec 2017, 05:42 so basically

'needs to marinate'

'wait till hes 37 and old'

its nothing genius there, just basic risk reward stuff.its at least clear as can be that tanks side dont want it now.

btw reading a lot of floyds stuff on loma he doesnt really seem to like him. recently called him stiff and robotic :lol:
:lol: :doh:

Floyd is just jealous that uncle Arum has that special revolutionary boxer in his stable.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Dec 2017, 05:30 The more I listen to Floyd about boxing business.. The more he makes sense. This guy truly knows the business side of boxing, having made hundreds of millions!
Yeah he knows very well the art of 'timing' and 'cherrypicking'.

Gervonta is 23 y/o and Loma is 29 y/o. When Gervonta will be 29-30 y/o and maybe still undefeated and Loma will be 35-36 y/o with good signs of declining or have a loss or two then this fight will make sense and the money will be there. :OhYes: :lol:
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I wonder how much Gervonta Davis earned for last fights
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Cent0089 wrote: 31 Dec 2017, 07:49 I wonder how much Gervonta Davis earned for last fights
Earned a minimum of $600,000 vs. Fonseca (less than $100k)

got paid $75,000 vs. Pedraza ($225,000)

purse vs. Walsh unavailable
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Floyd was and always will be a vag:&,a
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Sounds to me like Floyd is doing his best to avoid putting his golden boy in with Loma.
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Floyd says that Mikey Garcia takes big risks?????? Come on. The grossest cherry picker of boxing right now is Mikey Garcia. This is typical Floyd posturing...he clearly throws out Mikey's name with Loma to get the spotlight off his fighter and to create a stir for a possible fight between Loma and Garcia.

But none of these words cover up or lessen the burn that Loma slapped on Floyd's chin recently in his tweet asking him to stop hiding his fighter. Floyd's answer was the same as his answer to fighting Manny....wait until he gets old and less powerful. LOL. How did we ever let this idiot take our money?
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caldo2025 wrote: 31 Dec 2017, 09:07 Floyd says that Mikey Garcia takes big risks?????? Come on. The grossest cherry picker of boxing right now is Mikey Garcia. This is typical Floyd posturing...he clearly throws out Mikey's name with Loma to get the spotlight off his fighter and to create a stir for a possible fight between Loma and Garcia.

But none of these words cover up or lessen the burn that Loma slapped on Floyd's chin recently in his tweet asking him to stop hiding his fighter. Floyd's answer was the same as his answer to fighting Manny....wait until he gets old and less powerful. LOL. How did we ever let this idiot take our money?
Spot on! Floyd is a master at making these kind of diversions. People will talk "Loma must move up and fight Garcia at 140 lbs" and forget about Gervonta Davis. Anyway , personally I think a top-notch fight for Loma is Miguel Berchelt. I'd love to see this fight :box:
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To me it is very clear what he said. Tank isn't afraid of Loma, and wants to fight him. Floyd wants him to wait until he can make some big money in the fight. One thing Floyd doesn't say is that Tank is too green at the moment for Loma. It is smart to hold Tank back at this point, like it or not. When you enter the ring, you never know if it will be your last fight, and even if not, it is smart to earn what you can, while you can.

Say what you want about Floyd, but he knows like no other about the business side of boxing. His points about how little Loma is making is valid. A top pfp guy should make twice or more what Loma is making. I bet reading this burns Arum's ass. I always thought Arum should have paid Pacquiao more, but then again Pac always gave away about half of his purse, so whatever.
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IMO Berchelt is a far tougher and better fight at sfw for Loma than Linares, Davis or Easter Jr at lw. :TU:
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Badhusker wrote: 31 Dec 2017, 10:07 To me it is very clear what he said. Tank isn't afraid of Loma, and wants to fight him. Floyd wants him to wait until he can make some big money in the fight. One thing Floyd doesn't say is that Tank is too green at the moment for Loma. It is smart to hold Tank back at this point, like it or not. When you enter the ring, you never know if it will be your last fight, and even if not, it is smart to earn what you can, while you can.

Say what you want about Floyd, but he knows like no other about the business side of boxing. His points about how little Loma is making is valid. A top pfp guy should make twice or more what Loma is making. I bet reading this burns Arum's ass. I always thought Arum should have paid Pacquiao more, but then again Pac always gave away about half of his purse, so whatever.
Floyd can say whatever he wants to sound legit. I can't imagine Gervonta begging Floyd to put him against Loma. :OhYes:
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Badhusker wrote: 31 Dec 2017, 10:07 To me it is very clear what he said. Tank isn't afraid of Loma, and wants to fight him. Floyd wants him to wait until he can make some big money in the fight. One thing Floyd doesn't say is that Tank is too green at the moment for Loma. It is smart to hold Tank back at this point, like it or not. When you enter the ring, you never know if it will be your last fight, and even if not, it is smart to earn what you can, while you can.

Say what you want about Floyd, but he knows like no other about the business side of boxing. His points about how little Loma is making is valid. A top pfp guy should make twice or more what Loma is making. I bet reading this burns Arum's ass. I always thought Arum should have paid Pacquiao more, but then again Pac always gave away about half of his purse, so whatever.
You're 100% correct about Mayweather's business acumen, even if the usual cast of haters here will never credit him.

Mayweather sees the big picture. He's not interested in putting a prize pupil in with Lomachenko right now for a pittance.

Would Davis vs. Lomachenko sell in 2018? Hardly.

Davis is still a no name despite his obvious big time talents.

Lomachenko is beginning to gain traction behind the ESPN hype machine, but he's nowhere near a mainstream star.

Most sports fans would hear his name, give a puzzled look and shrug.

Mayweather is waiting for it to become a match worth making. Not something that would only intrigue the hardcore fight fan.

I've said it a thousand times. Professional boxing is a business, not a bar fight.

You fight if and when the money is right and it makes sense.

Right now Lomachenko-Davis doesn't make sense financially because it has only limited appeal.

Mayweather knows that and proceeds accordingly.

That's how he earned the well deserved tag of "Money."
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"Don’t ever let nobody put no battery in your back to pump you up to talk disrespectful about no fighter that’s with me. I’m not hiding nobody."

I lost count how many double-negatives.
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I don't want my fighter beat up unless they getting retirement money...hey sounds like Eddie Hearn
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If there's anything less cool than the Mayweather school of keeping interesting fights from happening, it's probably hearing fans gush about what smart business sense it is. When you're talking about successful fighters, you're not talking about guys just scraping by, raising their family off eight bucks an hour cleanin' the grill at Burger King. You're gonna look at six, seven, eight figure dollar amounts for one night's work and talk about how you're glad the promoter stopped the fight from happening 'cause he wanted to squabble over the zeroes on the check? Are you into watching fights, or do you just get excited by strangers' bank accounts?
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Because Davis isn't the draw
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A great fight for the Wash DC / Baltimore area is Tank vs Gary Russell. It won't happen but I know lots in the area would love to see it.
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Floyd's right. If Lomachenko was with Haymon, he'd be commanding far more than he's currently earning with Arum.

Similarly, Gervonta is capable of facing easier opposition for similar paydays than the sums likely offered by Top Rank to face Lomachenko.

Whilst I appreciate naively ignorant and selfish fight fans accusing the TMT fighter of cowardice, Davis is only responsible for protecting his own best interests by talking the lowest risk routes to the biggest available paydays.

If Bob Arum really wants Lomachenko to become the first fighter to blemish Gervonta's resume, then Top Rank and ESPN are going to have to dig deep and pay for the privilege of doing so.

There's a good reason why boxers are known as "PRIZE fighters" not "PRIDE fighters".
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Yeah, white Haymon fighters are getting lots of good fights :lol:

If Loma was with Haymon, he would've had 1 fight in 2017 instead of 3.
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The talent isn't there. Good choice by Floyd, saving his fighter from an embarrassing loss.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 31 Dec 2017, 14:00 Yeah, white Haymon fighters are getting lots of good fights :lol:

If Loma was with Haymon, he would've had 1 fight in 2017 instead of 3.
You're exaggerating the situation to fulfil your agenda. :shame:
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Blodhemn wrote: 31 Dec 2017, 14:16 The talent isn't there. Good choice by Floyd, saving his fighter from an embarrassing loss.
:lol: :lol: spot on comment! :TU:
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