Boxrec forum heavy weight top 15 2017

[dagilechia]

i was bored so i made a comparison of how people voted so far

Anthony Joshua 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Tyson Fury 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Luis Ortiz 3 4 4 6 4 4 5 2 4 4 4 3 3 4
Alexander Povetkin 4 2 2 2 3 2 2 6 2 3 2 4 4 2
Joseph Parker 5 5 5 4 5 3 4 4 5 7 6 5 2 6
Jun Long Zhang 6 - - - - - - - - - - - 15 -
Deontay Wilder 7 3 3 3 2 5 6 3 3 2 3 2 5 3
Andy Ruiz Jr 8 - - - - 13 14 8 - - - 11 - 15
Kubrat Pulev 9 6 6 5 6 6 3 - 6 5 5 6 - 5
Carlos Takam 10 11 7 7 9 7 7 7 10 9 11 8 14 8
Dillian Whyte 11 9 13 11 10 10 11 - 8 8 8 7 10 11
Dominic Breazeale 12 10 9 8 8 9 9 - 11 10 9 9 6 -
Adam Kownacki 13 15 14 14 11 - - 11 13 - - - 11 -
Johann Duhaupas 14 12 12 12 - - - - 12 11 13 - 12 -
Oscar Rivas 15 - - - - - - - - - - - 13 -
Jarrell Miller - 7 8 9 7 8 8 5 7 6 7 10 7 7
Christian Hammer - 8 - - 15 15 10 - 14 14 - 15 - 13
Mariusz Wach - 13 11 - - - - - - - - - - 14
Erkan Teper - 14 - - - - - - - - - - - -
Bryant Jennings - - 10 10 12 - 12 - - 13 12 - - -
Hughie Fury - - 15 13 13 - 13 10 15 12 - 12 - 9
Dereck Chisora - - - 15 - - - - - - - - - 10
Tony Bellew - - - - 14 11 - - 9 15 - - 9 -
Agit Kabayel - - - - - 12 - 13 - - 15 13 - 12
Lucas Browne - - - - - 14 15 12 - - 14 14 8 -
Amir Mansour - - - - - - - 9 - - 10 - - -
Trevor Bryan - - - - - - - 14 - - - - - -
Tom Schwarz - - - - - - - 15 - - - - - -

so i think that Boxrec Forum HW Top 15 looks like this

1.Anthony Joshua
2.Alexander Povetkin
3.Deontay Wilder
4.Luis Ortiz
5.Joseph Parker
6. Kubrat Pulev
7.Jarrell Miller
8.Carlos Takam
9.Dominic Breazeale
10.Dillian Whyte
11.Hughie Fury
12.Johann Duhaupas
13.Adam Kownacki
14.Christian Hammer
15.Bryant Jennings

[candyslim]

@Greg

You mean level of opposition like Joseph Parker whom he might have beaten had his safety first tactics not been taken to such extremes as to alienate the judges (and the fans). He had Parker chasing shadows, and landed more punches.

[tiny_acres]

Hughie Fury is inactive.

He just fought 3 months ago. How is he inactive???

My mistake I meant to type Andy Ruiz.

Thank you for the response. I thought he might of been suspended

[jamamb]

clear over kassi, rudenko, and arguably deserving a win over parker makes a good case for the top 15 these days. the division is awful once you get outside the top 10 or so.

[asdfjkl]

He just fought 3 months ago. How is he inactive???

My mistake I meant to type Andy Ruiz.

Thank you for the response. I thought he might of been suspended

He is planned to fight somehow 3 februari

[Lackeos]

..active or inactive I can't see Hughie Fury in any top 15 ranking considering his level of opposition..

Parker - Fury was practically a draw. Doesn't seem like there should be a huge gap in their rankings given that they are almost equally good. ... Unless you're ranking them on something other than how good they are.

[Heretic]

i was bored so i made a comparison of how people voted so far

Anthony Joshua 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Tyson Fury 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Luis Ortiz 3 4 4 6 4 4 5 2 4 4 4 3 3 4
Alexander Povetkin 4 2 2 2 3 2 2 6 2 3 2 4 4 2
Joseph Parker 5 5 5 4 5 3 4 4 5 7 6 5 2 6
Jun Long Zhang 6 - - - - - - - - - - - 15 -
Deontay Wilder 7 3 3 3 2 5 6 3 3 2 3 2 5 3
Andy Ruiz Jr 8 - - - - 13 14 8 - - - 11 - 15
Kubrat Pulev 9 6 6 5 6 6 3 - 6 5 5 6 - 5
Carlos Takam 10 11 7 7 9 7 7 7 10 9 11 8 14 8
Dillian Whyte 11 9 13 11 10 10 11 - 8 8 8 7 10 11
Dominic Breazeale 12 10 9 8 8 9 9 - 11 10 9 9 6 -
Adam Kownacki 13 15 14 14 11 - - 11 13 - - - 11 -
Johann Duhaupas 14 12 12 12 - - - - 12 11 13 - 12 -
Oscar Rivas 15 - - - - - - - - - - - 13 -
Jarrell Miller - 7 8 9 7 8 8 5 7 6 7 10 7 7
Christian Hammer - 8 - - 15 15 10 - 14 14 - 15 - 13
Mariusz Wach - 13 11 - - - - - - - - - - 14
Erkan Teper - 14 - - - - - - - - - - - -
Bryant Jennings - - 10 10 12 - 12 - - 13 12 - - -
Hughie Fury - - 15 13 13 - 13 10 15 12 - 12 - 9
Dereck Chisora - - - 15 - - - - - - - - - 10
Tony Bellew - - - - 14 11 - - 9 15 - - 9 -
Agit Kabayel - - - - - 12 - 13 - - 15 13 - 12
Lucas Browne - - - - - 14 15 12 - - 14 14 8 -
Amir Mansour - - - - - - - 9 - - 10 - - -
Trevor Bryan - - - - - - - 14 - - - - - -
Tom Schwarz - - - - - - - 15 - - - - - -

so i think that Boxrec Forum HW Top 15 looks like this

1.Anthony Joshua
2.Alexander Povetkin
3.Deontay Wilder
4.Luis Ortiz
5.Joseph Parker
6. Kubrat Pulev
7.Jarrell Miller
8.Carlos Takam
9.Dominic Breazeale
10.Dillian Whyte
11.Hughie Fury
12.Johann Duhaupas
13.Adam Kownacki
14.Christian Hammer
15.Bryant Jennings

Thanks

By the way... what method did you use to make that final ranking? Comparison of average scores?

Most positions were quite easy to determinate. Only really close ones are 9 and 15. Breazeale got bit higher average score but Whyte has one more vote. 7 of the voters had Whyte higher than Breazeale. 6 had Breazeale higher than Whyte.

Jennings and Ruiz are pretty much dead even at the vote. One voter had ranked both and had Jennings over Ruiz so I guess that Jennings wins.

[Heretic]

When I made this poll I had planned to count the votes like this.... 5 points for being in the list. 1 point for each rank. So that's 20 points for rank 1... 19 for rank 2 and so on until we finally have 6 points for rank 15.

With this method the vote gave us the following list.

1. Anthony Joshua 280
2. Alexander Povetkin 254
3. Deontay Wilder 244
4. Luis Ortiz 240
5. Joseph Parker 228
6. Kubrat Pulev 184
7. Jarrell Miller 177
8. Carlos Takam 169
9. Dillian Whyte 146
10. Dominic Breazeale 142
11. Hughie Fury 77
12. Johann Duhaupas 70
13. Adam Kownacki 66
14. Christian Hammer 64
15. Bryant Jennings 57

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16. Andy Ruiz Jr 57
17. Lucas Browne 49
18. Tony Bellew 47
19. Agit Kabayel 40
20. Mariusz Wach 25


Only difference to the list that dagilechia made is Whyte and Breazeale being switched around.

Jennings and Ruiz are even on scores. I used the one vote that had both men ranked as the tie breaker.

Ranks 16-20 are not relevant but I wanted to show the points for fighters near the list.

Pretty good list

[dagilechia]

When I made this poll I had planned to count the votes like this.... 5 points for being in the list. 1 point for each rank. So that's 20 points for rank 1... 19 for rank 2 and so on until we finally have 6 points for rank 15.

With this method the vote gave us the following list.

1. Anthony Joshua 280
2. Alexander Povetkin 254
3. Deontay Wilder 244
4. Luis Ortiz 240
5. Joseph Parker 228
6. Kubrat Pulev 184
7. Jarrell Miller 177
8. Carlos Takam 169
9. Dillian Whyte 146
10. Dominic Breazeale 142
11. Hughie Fury 77
12. Johann Duhaupas 70
13. Adam Kownacki 66
14. Christian Hammer 64
15. Bryant Jennings 57

________________________
16. Andy Ruiz Jr 57
17. Lucas Browne 49
18. Tony Bellew 47
19. Agit Kabayel 40
20. Mariusz Wach 25


Only difference to the list that dagilechia made is Whyte and Breazeale being switched around.

Jennings and Ruiz are even on scores. I used the one vote that had both men ranked as the tie breaker.

Ranks 16-20 are not relevant but I wanted to show the points for fighters near the list.

Pretty good list

i was on hangover so i couldn't concentrate enough to make any method, i just made my rank based on how visually it looks like, i put Breazeale at 9 because 8 out of 12 people who voted on him had Dominic 9th or higher, while Whyte was voted by 8 out of 13 at 10 or lower
but your method is okay
i also have an idea to make higher places worth more points
for example something like
1. 40 points
2. 36 points
3. 32 points
4 29 points
5. 26. points
6. 24 points
7. 22 points
8. 20 points
9. 18 points
10. 16 points
11. 15 points
12. 14 points
13. 13 points
14. 12 points
15. 11 points
or
1. 50 points
2. 45 points
3. 40 points
4 36 points
5. 32 points
6. 29 points
7. 26 points
8. 24 points
9. 22 points
10. 20 points
11. 18 points
12. 16 points
13. 15 points (or 14)
14. 14 points (or 12)
15. 13 points (or 10)
(no 5 points for being on the list)
but your actual system is okay too and it's all up to you
but i think the main issue is that in your system a fighter ranked 4-3-3-3-3-3-2-2-2-1 is above a fighter ranked 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-unranked, we can argue which one deserves the higher spot, but i actually think the second fighetr should be ranked higher

[Heretic]

When I made this poll I had planned to count the votes like this.... 5 points for being in the list. 1 point for each rank. So that's 20 points for rank 1... 19 for rank 2 and so on until we finally have 6 points for rank 15.

With this method the vote gave us the following list.

1. Anthony Joshua 280
2. Alexander Povetkin 254
3. Deontay Wilder 244
4. Luis Ortiz 240
5. Joseph Parker 228
6. Kubrat Pulev 184
7. Jarrell Miller 177
8. Carlos Takam 169
9. Dillian Whyte 146
10. Dominic Breazeale 142
11. Hughie Fury 77
12. Johann Duhaupas 70
13. Adam Kownacki 66
14. Christian Hammer 64
15. Bryant Jennings 57

________________________
16. Andy Ruiz Jr 57
17. Lucas Browne 49
18. Tony Bellew 47
19. Agit Kabayel 40
20. Mariusz Wach 25


Only difference to the list that dagilechia made is Whyte and Breazeale being switched around.

Jennings and Ruiz are even on scores. I used the one vote that had both men ranked as the tie breaker.

Ranks 16-20 are not relevant but I wanted to show the points for fighters near the list.

Pretty good list

i was on hangover so i couldn't concentrate enough to make any method, i just made my rank based on how visually it looks like, i put Breazeale at 9 because 8 out of 12 people who voted on him had Dominic 9th or higher, while Whyte was voted by 8 out of 13 at 10 or lower
but your method is okay
i also have an idea to make higher places worth more points
for example something like
1. 40 points
2. 36 points
3. 32 points
4 29 points
5. 26. points
6. 24 points
7. 22 points
8. 20 points
9. 18 points
10. 16 points
11. 15 points
12. 14 points
13. 13 points
14. 12 points
15. 11 points
or
1. 50 points
2. 45 points
3. 40 points
4 36 points
5. 32 points
6. 29 points
7. 26 points
8. 24 points
9. 22 points
10. 20 points
11. 18 points
12. 16 points
13. 15 points (or 14)
14. 14 points (or 12)
15. 13 points (or 10)
(no 5 points for being on the list)
but your actual system is okay too and it's all up to you

You did really good job on your visual method then.

I wanted to add those 5 points to avoid situation where one boxer getting few high scores would have placed boxer in ranks 13-15 even if others would have received around 10 votes for those ranks. ( I had funny feeling that Fury could have been there )

[dagilechia]

rankings based on my systems
place fighter points
1/1/1.Joshua 560/700/700
2/2/2.Povetkin 463/577/577
3/3/3.Wilder 430/534/534
4/4/4.Ortiz 414/514/514
5/5/5.Parker 381/469/469
6/6/6.Pulev 298/364/364
7/7/7.Miller 276/331/331
8/8/8.Takam 260/312/310
9/9/9.Whyte 221/267/266
10/10/10.Breazeale 215/261/261
11/11/11.H Fury 123/145/136
12/12/12.Duhaupas 110/127/124
13/14/13.Kownacki 106/125/116
13/13/14.Hammer 106/126/112
15/15/15.Ruiz 91/108/102
16/16/15.Jennings 87/103/102
17/17/17.Browne 81/95/86
18/18/18.Bellew 74/89/84
19/19/19.Kabayel 65/75/70
20/20/21.Wach 40/47/44
21/21/20.T Fury 36/45/45
22/22/23.Jun Long 35/42/39
23/22/22.Mansour 34/42/42
24/24/24.Chisora 27/33/30
25/25/25.Rivas 24/28/24
26/26/26.Teper 12/14/12
26/26/26.Bryan 12/14/12
28/28/28.Schwarz 11/13/10

[dagilechia]

When I made this poll I had planned to count the votes like this.... 5 points for being in the list. 1 point for each rank. So that's 20 points for rank 1... 19 for rank 2 and so on until we finally have 6 points for rank 15.

With this method the vote gave us the following list.

1. Anthony Joshua 280
2. Alexander Povetkin 254
3. Deontay Wilder 244
4. Luis Ortiz 240
5. Joseph Parker 228
6. Kubrat Pulev 184
7. Jarrell Miller 177
8. Carlos Takam 169
9. Dillian Whyte 146
10. Dominic Breazeale 142
11. Hughie Fury 77
12. Johann Duhaupas 70
13. Adam Kownacki 66
14. Christian Hammer 64
15. Bryant Jennings 57

________________________
16. Andy Ruiz Jr 57
17. Lucas Browne 49
18. Tony Bellew 47
19. Agit Kabayel 40
20. Mariusz Wach 25


Only difference to the list that dagilechia made is Whyte and Breazeale being switched around.

Jennings and Ruiz are even on scores. I used the one vote that had both men ranked as the tie breaker.

Ranks 16-20 are not relevant but I wanted to show the points for fighters near the list.

Pretty good list

i was on hangover so i couldn't concentrate enough to make any method, i just made my rank based on how visually it looks like, i put Breazeale at 9 because 8 out of 12 people who voted on him had Dominic 9th or higher, while Whyte was voted by 8 out of 13 at 10 or lower
but your method is okay
i also have an idea to make higher places worth more points
for example something like
1. 40 points
2. 36 points
3. 32 points
4 29 points
5. 26. points
6. 24 points
7. 22 points
8. 20 points
9. 18 points
10. 16 points
11. 15 points
12. 14 points
13. 13 points
14. 12 points
15. 11 points
or
1. 50 points
2. 45 points
3. 40 points
4 36 points
5. 32 points
6. 29 points
7. 26 points
8. 24 points
9. 22 points
10. 20 points
11. 18 points
12. 16 points
13. 15 points (or 14)
14. 14 points (or 12)
15. 13 points (or 10)
(no 5 points for being on the list)
but your actual system is okay too and it's all up to you

You did really good job on your visual method then.

I wanted to add those 5 points to avoid situation where one boxer getting few high scores would have placed boxer in ranks 13-15 even if others would have received around 10 votes for those ranks. ( I had funny feeling that Fury could have been there )

rankings based on my systems
place fighter points
1/1/1.Joshua 560/700/700
2/2/2.Povetkin 463/577/577
3/3/3.Wilder 430/534/534
4/4/4.Ortiz 414/514/514
5/5/5.Parker 381/469/469
6/6/6.Pulev 298/364/364
7/7/7.Miller 276/331/331
8/8/8.Takam 260/312/310
9/9/9.Whyte 221/267/266
10/10/10.Breazeale 215/261/261
11/11/11.H Fury 123/145/136
12/12/12.Duhaupas 110/127/124
13/14/13.Kownacki 106/125/116
13/13/14.Hammer 106/126/112
15/15/15.Ruiz 91/108/102
16/16/15.Jennings 87/103/102
17/17/17.Browne 81/95/86
18/18/18.Bellew 74/89/84
19/19/19.Kabayel 65/75/70
20/20/21.Wach 40/47/44
21/21/20.T Fury 36/45/45
22/22/23.Jun Long 35/42/39
23/22/22.Mansour 34/42/42
24/24/24.Chisora 27/33/30
25/25/25.Rivas 24/28/24
26/26/26.Teper 12/14/12
26/26/26.Bryan 12/14/12
28/28/28.Schwarz 11/13/10

[dagilechia]

the list is good, and i think we should keep voting in future, i also would like to make a similar vote on CW division

our ranking looks better than the one of Boxrec, not to mention ABC organizations

[greg]

@Greg

You mean level of opposition like Joseph Parker whom he might have beaten had his safety first tactics not been taken to such extremes as to alienate the judges (and the fans). He had Parker chasing shadows, and landed more punches.

..actually Parker was his first opponent ever with a pulse...those he fought prior to Parker were not even on my top 50 list..I'm not even sure how he got the title shot in the first place...don't have stats, my impression was though that Hughie Fury was pretty much on the run, his only weapon being his long jab which lacked power and precision...Parker was doing all the dirty work chasing him for 12 rounds, marginally effective due to the negativity and unwillingness to engage of bigger boxer..Hughie had his chance but he blew it IMO...

[Lennox]

the list is good, and i think we should keep voting in future, i also would like to make a similar vote on CW division

our ranking looks better than the one of Boxrec, not to mention ABC organizations

Yep not a bad top 28 at all.

Schwartz has done nothing yet though. Tyson Fury ranking a bit screwed as only 1 vote.

[Heretic]

the list is good, and i think we should keep voting in future, i also would like to make a similar vote on CW division

our ranking looks better than the one of Boxrec, not to mention ABC organizations

Yep not a bad top 28 at all.

Schwartz has done nothing yet though. Tyson Fury ranking a bit screwed as only 1 vote.

This was vote for the top 15 only. Ranking would look bit different after 15 if we did it properly for top 20 or something.

The one that Jezz used to update was pretty good. Best list out there. Second best was the transnational one.

[jamamb]

ya those rankings look good. outside the top 10 theres a lot of feasible options of guys to place in the next 5 so i think thats prob the most arguable part of any set of rankings on todays top 15.

[Lennox]

the list is good, and i think we should keep voting in future, i also would like to make a similar vote on CW division

our ranking looks better than the one of Boxrec, not to mention ABC organizations

Yep not a bad top 28 at all.

Schwartz has done nothing yet though. Tyson Fury ranking a bit screwed as only 1 vote.

This was vote for the top 15 only. Ranking would look bit different after 15 if we did it properly for top 20 or something.

The one that Jezz used to update was pretty good. Best list out there. Second best was the transnational one.

Transnational top 10 is not great at the moment, though in most divisions its pretty good. I still think mine are the best. based on 27 years of man who beat the beat man. www.premierboxingorganisation.com/heavyweight-200. If you have Jarrell Miller high, Wach should not be far behind or else Miller has fought no one. I think Joe Parker is probably over thought of he has really struggled and it has boosted the stock of Fury and Ruiz. His fight with Cojanu was awfull. I think if he fights AJ he will bottle it. It is much clearer as a top 10 but yes everyone has slightly different choices who is 11-15 and probably there is not a lot of real quality from 11-30.

[candyslim]

@Greg

You mean level of opposition like Joseph Parker whom he might have beaten had his safety first tactics not been taken to such extremes as to alienate the judges (and the fans). He had Parker chasing shadows, and landed more punches.

..actually Parker was his first opponent ever with a pulse...those he fought prior to Parker were not even on my top 50 list..I'm not even sure how he got the title shot in the first place...don't have stats, my impression was though that Hughie Fury was pretty much on the run, his only weapon being his long jab which lacked power and precision...Parker was doing all the dirty work chasing him for 12 rounds, marginally effective due to the negativity and unwillingness to engage of bigger boxer..Hughie had his chance but he blew it IMO...

I think that's a little unfair Greg. Fred Kassi has been beaten several times and is on a losing run, but all those who have beaten him are familiar names and most of a good standard. He drew with Arreola back when that was a respectable result.

And as a Russian you will be well aware that Povetkin couldn't stop Andrei Rudenko, so for Hughie to achieve the same result (unanimous decision win) at the tender age of 20 is an appreciable achievement.

I grant you that Hughie hadn't earned a title shot and your description of the fight is accurate, but I'm pretty sure the problem was that Hughie truly believed he was winning the fight at a canter and had no need to do anymore. He knows better now having been on the wrong end of the decision, and if it were possible to press "re-start" and begin the fight again knowing how his negative tactics would be reviled and marked down, I believe he would he modified his style just enough to convince the judges that he earned the decision. That would have involved him fighting more like Saunders and seeking to punish Joseph each of the many times he made him miss.

I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Hughie and although he hasn't done enough to justify a high ranking, I think he is capable of beating several fighters rated above him.

[Heretic]

If you have Jarrell Miller high, Wach should not be far behind or else Miller has fought no one.

I had Wach ranked quite high before the Miller fight. He didn't look good in that one. Afterwards I ranked Miller quite high and Wach out of the top 15.

I think Joe Parker is probably over thought of he has really struggled and it has boosted the stock of Fury and Ruiz. His fight with Cojanu was awfull. I think if he fights AJ he will bottle it. It is much clearer as a top 10 but yes everyone has slightly different choices who is 11-15 and probably there is not a lot of real quality from 11-30.

Parker seems as decent all around boxer. He was forced to be the boxer against Ruiz. I had him narrowly loosing that fight. Still good showing in a tight spot. If he went to fire fight there even the judges would have been unable to give him the win.

Parker has fought better opponents than Wilder. I think he is still improving and deserves the high ranking.

[Heretic]

I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Hughie and although he hasn't done enough to justify a high ranking, I think he is capable of beating several fighters rated above him.

He is one good win away from good ranking and I think he has the skills to make it

[greg]

I think that's a little unfair Greg. Fred Kassi has been beaten several times and is on a losing run, but all those who have beaten him are familiar names and most of a good standard. He drew with Arreola back when that was a respectable result.

And as a Russian you will be well aware that Povetkin couldn't stop Andrei Rudenko, so for Hughie to achieve the same result (unanimous decision win) at the tender age of 20 is an appreciable achievement.

I grant you that Hughie hadn't earned a title shot and your description of the fight is accurate, but I'm pretty sure the problem was that Hughie truly believed he was winning the fight at a canter and had no need to do anymore. He knows better now having been on the wrong end of the decision, and if it were possible to press "re-start" and begin the fight again knowing how his negative tactics would be reviled and marked down, I believe he would he modified his style just enough to convince the judges that he earned the decision. That would have involved him fighting more like Saunders and seeking to punish Joseph each of the many times he made him miss.

I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Hughie and although he hasn't done enough to justify a high ranking, I think he is capable of beating several fighters rated above him.

Indeed Candy, I might be too harsh on him which can be a result of too much hype on British forum and elsewhere...a lot of that hype can be attributed to Hughie being a cousin of Tyson Fury which has helped boosting his career to a point of getting a title shot imo..Actually he's not that different to a lot of other rookies whose resume is chock-full of C+/B- level boxers..no disrespect here, just stating the fact the way I see it...he's obviously no big puncher something that is critically important especially in the heavyweight division, not sure at this point about his mental toughness, heart, etc. to be the top 10 guy..all in all he reminds me of the Ukrainian/German heavyweight Alexander Dimitrenko...

Having said that, I hope his team are capable of making certain readjustments.. and hey, he's a young lad and has time to improve..

[candyslim]

Yes Greg I do agree that punching power and mental strength are the biggest question marks over Hughie Fury. He will never be a puncher but I'm hoping as he matures he will answer the questions about his psychological toughness.

I'm hearing stories about him fighting Dillian Whyte. I don't know whether this is likely to happen but I think it's a tough match for both of them, and if I were advising Dillian, I'd tell him he doesn't need to go risking his ranking/ mandatory title shot by taking on someone as awkward as Fury.

[Heretic]

but your actual system is okay too and it's all up to you
but i think the main issue is that in your system a fighter ranked 4-3-3-3-3-3-2-2-2-1 is above a fighter ranked 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-unranked, we can argue which one deserves the higher spot, but i actually think the second fighetr should be ranked higher

I just noticed this bit of text... Did you add it afterwards?

Yeah that seems to be a problem with my way of calculating the votes. Fighter number two should definitely be above the other.

Your points systems seems to be better

I guess there is some kind of fancy mathematical way around this problem. I might need to do a bit of research if I can find the time.

[Heretic]

Yes Greg I do agree that punching power and mental strength are the biggest question marks over Hughie Fury. He will never be a puncher but I'm hoping as he matures he will answer the questions about his psychological toughness.

I'm hearing stories about him fighting Dillian Whyte. I don't know whether this is likely to happen but I think it's a tough match for both of them, and if I were advising Dillian, I'd tell him he doesn't need to go risking his ranking/ mandatory title shot by taking on someone as awkward as Fury.

Whyte should definitely keep away from Hughie. He could not do shit against Helenius who was a three rounds fighter at the time. Furys style is all wrong for him.