Miljan Rovcanin suffers first loss - Dimitrenko fight now a DQ

[Like a Boss]

The German Federation have acted on an official protest from Alexander Dimitrenko and changed the result in the fight Dimitrenko vs Miljan Rovcanin.

The outcome has been changed from a draw to a win for Dimitrenko and as a result Rovcanin suffers his first career defeat.

The reason for the change is Rovcanin had a total of 3 points deducted - 2 in the 3rd round and 1 in the 7th round, and according to the BDB rules he should have been disqualified in the 7th round once the 3rd point had been deducted.

[jamamb]

well if those are the rules thats what it shouldve been

[Like a Boss]

Hard to argue with that logic.

[Lackeos]

Well, to be fair, this reversal has no bearing on how good we should believe these fighters to be, based on their performances. Not that the rules don't apply, though.

[Mexi-Box]

Damn, was 2017 Dimitrenko's best year? Guy beat two undefeated prospects.

[candyslim]

Damn, was 2017 Dimitrenko's best year? Guy beat two undefeated prospects.

Reckon so.

I don't like to see results altered after the fact though. It doesn't seem right some how. Imagine if they looked at a football match and ruled that a goal had been awarded when it was clearly off-side, so the result is altered from 1 - 1 to 0 - 1. That would leave a bad taste in my mouth and I feel the same way about boxing results.

[Mexi-Box]

Damn, was 2017 Dimitrenko's best year? Guy beat two undefeated prospects.

Reckon so.

I don't like to see results altered after the fact though. It doesn't seem right some how. Imagine if they looked at a football match and ruled that a goal had been awarded when it was clearly off-side, so the result is altered from 1 - 1 to 0 - 1. That would leave a bad taste in my mouth and I feel the same way about boxing results.

I think they should do it more often, honestly. Ward/Kovalev is the first thing that pops up in my head. Fight was stopped on a foul.

[greg]

..the question is, of course, why haven't they been applied there and then...however, the rules are the rules, better to apply them after the fact on protest than never..props to the German Commission for having the integrity to correct the mistake..should send a clear message to the rest of the boxing world..

[Lackeos]

Damn, was 2017 Dimitrenko's best year? Guy beat two undefeated prospects.

Well, if it wasn't 2017, it was 2008 when he beat Derrick Rossy and Luan Krasniqi, which probably were the better scalps given their ability at the time. Also, Rovcanin was barely a prospect. He was rated #242 on boxrec, so struggling mightily with him and being saved by point deductions is not a good look. Like, that fight was one point deduction away from Dimitrenko losing a SD to a fighter who is more than 100 ranks below Malcolm Tann, Mark de Mori, Yakup Saglam, etc.

[boxing_rocks]

Who are Rovcanin and Dimitrenko? Are we discussing mediocre guys because they are fat and fight at HW?

[Mexi-Box]

Damn, was 2017 Dimitrenko's best year? Guy beat two undefeated prospects.

Well, if it wasn't 2017, it was 2008 when he beat Derrick Rossy and Luan Krasniqi, which probably were the better scalps given their ability at the time. Also, Rovcanin was barely a prospect. He was rated #242 on boxrec, so struggling mightily with him and being saved by point deductions is not a good look. Like, that fight was one point deduction away from Dimitrenko losing a SD to a fighter who is more than 100 ranks below Malcolm Tann, Mark de Mori, Yakup Saglam, etc.

You're simply a BoxRec warrior.

Anyone who literally takes those numbers to heart is an absolute idiot.

[jamamb]

record padding over shit opposition happens all the time, and it seems that some idiots buy into it. just beat a bunch if bums and mexi cool will be impressed

[littlepug]

Damn, was 2017 Dimitrenko's best year? Guy beat two undefeated prospects.

Reckon so.

I don't like to see results altered after the fact though. It doesn't seem right some how. Imagine if they looked at a football match and ruled that a goal had been awarded when it was clearly off-side, so the result is altered from 1 - 1 to 0 - 1. That would leave a bad taste in my mouth and I feel the same way about boxing results.

I think they should do it more often, honestly. Ward/Kovalev is the first thing that pops up in my head. Fight was stopped on a foul.

Good idea, so any time someone wants out they just sit on the ropes and cry foul and they get a DQ win, gotcha

[jamamb]

oh god ward vs kov in this thread now? f@ck off to somewherw else both of you.

[Mexi-Box]

Reckon so.

I don't like to see results altered after the fact though. It doesn't seem right some how. Imagine if they looked at a football match and ruled that a goal had been awarded when it was clearly off-side, so the result is altered from 1 - 1 to 0 - 1. That would leave a bad taste in my mouth and I feel the same way about boxing results.

I think they should do it more often, honestly. Ward/Kovalev is the first thing that pops up in my head. Fight was stopped on a foul.

Good idea, so any time someone wants out they just sit on the ropes and cry foul and they get a DQ win, gotcha

So you prefer to keep it like it is. If someone wants the win, just punch your opponent really hard in the crotch.

[asdfjkl]

Damn, was 2017 Dimitrenko's best year? Guy beat two undefeated prospects.

Wasn't that the guy who almost beat Parker on disqualification as well?

[Lackeos]

Damn, was 2017 Dimitrenko's best year? Guy beat two undefeated prospects.

Well, if it wasn't 2017, it was 2008 when he beat Derrick Rossy and Luan Krasniqi, which probably were the better scalps given their ability at the time. Also, Rovcanin was barely a prospect. He was rated #242 on boxrec, so struggling mightily with him and being saved by point deductions is not a good look. Like, that fight was one point deduction away from Dimitrenko losing a SD to a fighter who is more than 100 ranks below Malcolm Tann, Mark de Mori, Yakup Saglam, etc.

You're simply a BoxRec warrior.

Anyone who literally takes those numbers to heart is an absolute idiot.

Okay. Well please don't compare 2017 boxers to 2008 boxers, because you weren't around in 2008, and you clearly don't know the first sh*t about how good Krasniqi and Rossy were in 2008. I could try to teach you all about how Krasniqi's opposition was vastly superior to Rovcanin's, but I don't expect the lesson to take root.

First, let's review Rovcanin's best professional wins.
Mbaruku Kheri: With a 12-7 record at the time of the fight, Kheri is definitely Rovcanin's greatest conquest. Kheri has never beat an opponent with a boxrec rating higher than 3. 12 of the 16 opponents Kheri has beaten were winless.
Attila Makula: This guy is 8-17 right now, and all 8 of the opponents he beat were corpses with boxrec ratings of 0.
Denes Toth: This guy was a 1-0 nobody whose record now sits at 2-3, and his two wins were both against debutants. He's literally never beaten an opponent who has a single win.

It should be noted that most people on the forum have never read any of these names before, except possibly when reading Rovcanin's record. Also, none of them had a boxrec rating higher than 5.

Before we get into Luan Krasniqi's professional record, it is worth pointing out that Rovcanin has no amateur accomplishments, whereas Krasniqi won a silver medal at the world amateur championships, a bronze medal at the Olympics, and a gold medal at the European amateur championships. He beat Wladimir Klitschko and Ruslan Chagaev in amateur competition.

So now on to Krasniqi's best professional wins.
Sinan Samil Sam: You wouldn't even know how good Sinan Samil Sam was in 2008, you weren't around. In amateur competition, he won a world amateur championship gold medal, a world amateur championship bronze medal, and silver / bronze medals at the European championships. This is substantially more medals than are possessed by the bums Rovcanin has fought; but I encourage you to check anyway. As a professional, he beat Danny Williams (who in 2003 was roughly as good as Dimitrenko is now), Paulo Vidoz (3 bronze medals in world amateur competition), Bob Mirovic, Saul Montana, George Arias, Okello Peter, Lawrence Clay Bey, Denis Bakhtov, Julius Francis, and Przemyslaw Saleta (all of whom were ranked higher at the time than Rovcanin has ever been in his entire life).
Lance Whitaker: This is another fighter whom you have no idea how good he was in 2008 because you're new here. It should be noted that as an amateur, Lance Whitaker won the national golden gloves and a bronze medal at the Pan American games, which is better than anything Rovcanin has ever done in his life. As a professional, Whitaker beat Monte Barrett (title challenger), Oleg Maskaev (world titlist), Cliff Couser, Friday Ahunanya, and Andrey Fedosov.
Whatever, I gotta go to work now. I don't even have time to explain to you how good Brian Minto was in 2007, but he was easily better than the version you know him as from 2016. It's important to note that, unlike Denes Koth, not all of Minto's scalps were themselves winless corpses.
Most of these fighters were borderline top 25 at their heights, whereas none of Rovcanin's opponents have ever been in the top 500, and Rovcanin himself has never been in the top 200.

[Mexi-Box]

Well, if it wasn't 2017, it was 2008 when he beat Derrick Rossy and Luan Krasniqi, which probably were the better scalps given their ability at the time. Also, Rovcanin was barely a prospect. He was rated #242 on boxrec, so struggling mightily with him and being saved by point deductions is not a good look. Like, that fight was one point deduction away from Dimitrenko losing a SD to a fighter who is more than 100 ranks below Malcolm Tann, Mark de Mori, Yakup Saglam, etc.

You're simply a BoxRec warrior.

Anyone who literally takes those numbers to heart is an absolute idiot.

Okay. Well please don't compare 2017 boxers to 2008 boxers, because you weren't around in 2008, and you clearly don't know the first sh*t about how good Krasniqi and Rossy were in 2008. I could try to teach you all about how Krasniqi's opposition was vastly superior to Rovcanin's, but I don't expect the lesson to take root.

First, let's review Rovcanin's best professional wins.
Mbaruku Kheri: With a 12-7 record at the time of the fight, Kheri is definitely Rovcanin's greatest conquest. Kheri has never beat an opponent with a boxrec rating higher than 3. 12 of the 16 opponents Kheri has beaten were winless.
Attila Makula: This guy is 8-17 right now, and all 8 of the opponents he beat were corpses with boxrec ratings of 0.
Denes Toth: This guy was a 1-0 nobody whose record now sits at 2-3, and his two wins were both against debutants. He's literally never beaten an opponent who has a single win.

It should be noted that most people on the forum have never read any of these names before, except possibly when reading Rovcanin's record. Also, none of them had a boxrec rating higher than 5.

Before we get into Luan Krasniqi's professional record, it is worth pointing out that Rovcanin has no amateur accomplishments, whereas Krasniqi won a silver medal at the world amateur championships, a bronze medal at the Olympics, and a gold medal at the European amateur championships. He beat Wladimir Klitschko and Ruslan Chagaev in amateur competition.

So now on to Krasniqi's best professional wins.
Sinan Samil Sam: You wouldn't even know how good Sinan Samil Sam was in 2008, you weren't around. In amateur competition, he won a world amateur championship gold medal, a world amateur championship bronze medal, and silver / bronze medals at the European championships. This is substantially more medals than are possessed by the bums Rovcanin has fought; but I encourage you to check anyway. As a professional, he beat Danny Williams (who in 2003 was roughly as good as Dimitrenko is now), Paulo Vidoz (3 bronze medals in world amateur competition), Bob Mirovic, Saul Montana, George Arias, Okello Peter, Lawrence Clay Bey, Denis Bakhtov, Julius Francis, and Przemyslaw Saleta (all of whom were ranked higher at the time than Rovcanin has ever been in his entire life).
Lance Whitaker: This is another fighter whom you have no idea how good he was in 2008 because you're new here. It should be noted that as an amateur, Lance Whitaker won the national golden gloves and a bronze medal at the Pan American games, which is better than anything Rovcanin has ever done in his life. As a professional, Whitaker beat Monte Barrett (title challenger), Oleg Maskaev (world titlist), Cliff Couser, Friday Ahunanya, and Andrey Fedosov.
Whatever, I gotta go to work now. I don't even have time to explain to you how good Brian Minto was in 2007, but he was easily better than the version you know him as from 2016. It's important to note that, unlike Denes Koth, not all of Minto's scalps were themselves winless corpses.
Most of these fighters were borderline top 25 at their heights, whereas none of Rovcanin's opponents have ever been in the top 500, and Rovcanin himself has never been in the top 200.

As I said, what's funny is that you take the BoxRec rankings to heart like they mean something. These fighters are prospects. Of course, they aren't going to be ranked high at all. Any ranking of them is pure guesswork. The fact that you are blurting out numbers like they mean anything shows how little you know. As I keep saying, you are a BoxRec warrior.

Do you know that there is something called a prime? Beating the corpse of a solid fighter doesn't mean anything. Krasniqi retired right after the damn fight! I did not say anything about a prime version of Krasniqi, but he was far removed from his prime when Dimitrenko beat him. I can't believe I have to explain this!

It's ridiculous and shows just how much of a clueless BoxRec warrior you are. I mean this is the worst case of self-ownage I've ever seen.

The only fighter I would agree with you is Rossy. I was actually about to put that Rossy might be Dimitrenko's best win, depending on what Granat does in the future.

Oh and Roy Jones Jr. is currently ranked 57 at cruiserweight. He's currently the 6th best American cruiserweight right now. Going by your logic, defeating him right now would be a relevant win.

What a complete and utter joke you are.

[SportsRatings]

Damn, was 2017 Dimitrenko's best year? Guy beat two undefeated prospects.

Well, if it wasn't 2017, it was 2008 when he beat Derrick Rossy and Luan Krasniqi, which probably were the better scalps given their ability at the time. Also, Rovcanin was barely a prospect. He was rated #242 on boxrec, so struggling mightily with him and being saved by point deductions is not a good look. Like, that fight was one point deduction away from Dimitrenko losing a SD to a fighter who is more than 100 ranks below Malcolm Tann, Mark de Mori, Yakup Saglam, etc.

You're simply a BoxRec warrior.

Anyone who literally takes those numbers to heart is an absolute idiot.

Wow, that's a bit harsh! Obviously the rankings don't mean everything but if a guy's 18-0 and is still only #242, it's a pretty solid indication that he hasn't beaten anybody very good at all. Even Deontay Wilder's first 18 wins were better than that!

[jamamb]

yep, as said before mexi noob is easily fooled by record padding, like a total noob. just put together a bunch of wins over nobodies and hell be impressed. noob.

[Gnome]

Great post by Lackeos above. Dimitrenko was red hot in 2008 and while 2017 kept his career alive, in my opinion he is treading water.

[chinarich]

I don't think the change in result changes much, Dimitrenko is a spent force and wasn't great in his prime...