Spence vs. Peterson

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Spence vs. Peterson

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I think this fight will be better than most think. Peterson seems to push everyone, and Spence will be no exception. I predict Spence will break him down slowly and stop him late, but in the meantime Peterson will be very competitive. Peterson is probably more comfortable making 147 than Errol, and I do think 140 was taking too much out of him. Very good fight.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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I feel that Lamont Peterson’s KO defeat to Lucas Martin Matthysse was simply an aberration and that he’s actually fairly durable.

I also believe that both Spence Jr. and Peterson are both pretty massive welterweights that don't really mind fighting on the inside, which means their bout will probably result in trench warfare type action rather than a chess match.

In my mind, this has the making (for a couple of rounds at least) to be a highly exciting affair, with Spence Jr. eventually wearing down his opponent en route to scoring a stoppage during the middle rounds.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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its an okay fight. not 'very good'

ill be surprised if spence isnt close to 100 percent picked in the prediction game just dont see a good case for peterson. not an evenish fight but decent. petersons solid but i think spence is just at that other level. also petersons tough on inside but vs atrong opponents like matthyse, ortiz, and garcia he was more elusive and trying to box. wouldnt surprise me if hes a bit negative

really want to see spence vs crawford but i fear we wont with the political divide. it woukd be as good of quality as it could get today. better than the hyped loma vs rigo fight? hopefully at least spence vs thurman
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Spence KO. Peterson doesn't have the power to keep Spence off him.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Peterson is a durable rugged guy who can give any welter a battle.

But Spence is on another level and is only going to get better.

He just has too many tools for Peterson to overcome.

This will go rounds. Maybe it goes the full 12.

But I see Spence slowly carving up Peterson. Too much speed. Too much power. Too much accuracy.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Badhusker wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 08:23 I think this fight will be better than most think. Peterson seems to push everyone, and Spence will be no exception. I predict Spence will break him down slowly and stop him late, but in the meantime Peterson will be very competitive. Peterson is probably more comfortable making 147 than Errol, and I do think 140 was taking too much out of him. Very good fight.
I think it will be good, for at least the first 3-4 rounds
The only advantage to Peterson is that Spence hasn't fought since Brook and that is the longest layoff in his pro career.
Other than that, I see Spence digging to Peterson's body to slow him and then taking him out midway.

Spence throws a devastating body shot, Peterson is durable, but there is a limit.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Peterson looked horrific against the guy that struggled with Mosley. I forgot his name, and I don't feel like looking it up.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 08:38 I feel that Lamont Peterson’s KO defeat to Lucas Martin Matthysse was simply an aberration and that he’s actually fairly durable.

I also believe that both Spence Jr. and Peterson are both pretty massive welterweights that don't really mind fighting on the inside, which means their bout will probably result in trench warfare type action rather than a chess match.

In my mind, this has the making (for a couple of rounds at least) to be a highly exciting affair, with Spence Jr. eventually wearing down his opponent en route to scoring a stoppage during the middle rounds.
I don't know where you get the idea that Peterson is a massive welterweight from. Spence is big for the weight but Peterson doesn't look particularly big for 147. He's broad across the top of his back and shoulders but height and weight wise he's nothing out of the ordinary for the division.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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ElJefe wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 17:31
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 08:38 I feel that Lamont Peterson’s KO defeat to Lucas Martin Matthysse was simply an aberration and that he’s actually fairly durable.

I also believe that both Spence Jr. and Peterson are both pretty massive welterweights that don't really mind fighting on the inside, which means their bout will probably result in trench warfare type action rather than a chess match.

In my mind, this has the making (for a couple of rounds at least) to be a highly exciting affair, with Spence Jr. eventually wearing down his opponent en route to scoring a stoppage during the middle rounds.
I don't know where you get the idea that Peterson is a massive welterweight from. Spence is big for the weight but Peterson doesn't look particularly big for 147. He's broad across the top of his back and shoulders but height and weight wise he's nothing out of the ordinary for the division.
Only one week after his 143lbs catch-weight fight against Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson rehydrated to a massive 182lbs... and he was apparently still pretty ripped.

Google it for yourself, you'll surely realise very quickly that what I've stated is true. :TU:

There's even a thread about Peterson's weight gain that has already been created by someone else within this forum section.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Mexi-Box wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 17:19 Peterson looked horrific against the guy that struggled with Mosley. I forgot his name, and I don't feel like looking it up.
Peterson looked to me like he deserved the win against Danny Garcia, so he is a solid welterweight.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Badhusker wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 20:09
Mexi-Box wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 17:19 Peterson looked horrific against the guy that struggled with Mosley. I forgot his name, and I don't feel like looking it up.
Peterson looked to me like he deserved the win against Danny Garcia, so he is a solid welterweight.
Maybe, if you ignore the first half of the fight where Peterson did nothing but run, run, run.

It's hard to earn rounds when you flee like a bandit and barely throw a punch.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 19:14
ElJefe wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 17:31
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 08:38 I feel that Lamont Peterson’s KO defeat to Lucas Martin Matthysse was simply an aberration and that he’s actually fairly durable.

I also believe that both Spence Jr. and Peterson are both pretty massive welterweights that don't really mind fighting on the inside, which means their bout will probably result in trench warfare type action rather than a chess match.

In my mind, this has the making (for a couple of rounds at least) to be a highly exciting affair, with Spence Jr. eventually wearing down his opponent en route to scoring a stoppage during the middle rounds.
I don't know where you get the idea that Peterson is a massive welterweight from. Spence is big for the weight but Peterson doesn't look particularly big for 147. He's broad across the top of his back and shoulders but height and weight wise he's nothing out of the ordinary for the division.
Only one week after his 143lbs catch-weight fight against Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson rehydrated to a massive 182lbs... and he was apparently still pretty ripped.

Google it for yourself, you'll surely realise very quickly that what I've stated is true. :TU:

There's even a thread about Peterson's weight gain that has already been created by someone else within this forum section.
I can't find anything about him being 182lbs myself. I can find a tweet from him a couple of months after the Garcia fight and he was on the scales at 173lbs. Given that Terence Crawford recently posted a picture of himself weighing 177lbs, I'm not sure how much to read into Peterson weighing 173 when he was 4 months out from his next fight. I don't think anyone will be calling Crawford a massive welterweight when he steps up.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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ElJefe wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 21:52
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 19:14
ElJefe wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 17:31

I don't know where you get the idea that Peterson is a massive welterweight from. Spence is big for the weight but Peterson doesn't look particularly big for 147. He's broad across the top of his back and shoulders but height and weight wise he's nothing out of the ordinary for the division.
Only one week after his 143lbs catch-weight fight against Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson rehydrated to a massive 182lbs... and he was apparently still pretty ripped.

Google it for yourself, you'll surely realise very quickly that what I've stated is true. :TU:

There's even a thread about Peterson's weight gain that has already been created by someone else within this forum section.
I can't find anything about him being 182lbs myself. I can find a tweet from him a couple of months after the Garcia fight and he was on the scales at 173lbs. Given that Terence Crawford recently posted a picture of himself weighing 177lbs, I'm not sure how much to read into Peterson weighing 173 when he was 4 months out from his next fight. I don't think anyone will be calling Crawford a massive welterweight when he steps up.
Review the hyperlinks detailed within this BoxRec thread:
viewtopic.php?t=192481

It was really easy to find that info.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Feel like Peterson will try and box for the first half like he did with Garcia. Spence will slow him to the body. Then Peterson, when he hasn’t had success boxing, like in the Garcia fight., will try and play the Spence game and trade and...I think he’ll get hurt. So I’m expecting fireworks in the later rounds.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Lamont Peterson is a very good fighter.

Spence is a -3000 favorite against him. That’s how good Spence is.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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its a bit like crawford diaz. i actually had diaz vs peterson a draw.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 22:04
ElJefe wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 21:52
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 19:14
Only one week after his 143lbs catch-weight fight against Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson rehydrated to a massive 182lbs... and he was apparently still pretty ripped.

Google it for yourself, you'll surely realise very quickly that what I've stated is true. :TU:

There's even a thread about Peterson's weight gain that has already been created by someone else within this forum section.
I can't find anything about him being 182lbs myself. I can find a tweet from him a couple of months after the Garcia fight and he was on the scales at 173lbs. Given that Terence Crawford recently posted a picture of himself weighing 177lbs, I'm not sure how much to read into Peterson weighing 173 when he was 4 months out from his next fight. I don't think anyone will be calling Crawford a massive welterweight when he steps up.
Review the hyperlinks detailed within this BoxRec thread:
viewtopic.php?t=192481

It was really easy to find that info.
So he put on 40lbs in a week, let's say 20lbs after fight night. I doubt he'd still be in good shape but whatever. Still, that's not much bigger than Crawford who nobody will be calling a massive welterweight when he steps up.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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ElJefe wrote: 10 Jan 2018, 10:06
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 22:04
ElJefe wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 21:52

I can't find anything about him being 182lbs myself. I can find a tweet from him a couple of months after the Garcia fight and he was on the scales at 173lbs. Given that Terence Crawford recently posted a picture of himself weighing 177lbs, I'm not sure how much to read into Peterson weighing 173 when he was 4 months out from his next fight. I don't think anyone will be calling Crawford a massive welterweight when he steps up.
Review the hyperlinks detailed within this BoxRec thread:
viewtopic.php?t=192481

It was really easy to find that info.
So he put on 40lbs in a week, let's say 20lbs after fight night. I doubt he'd still be in good shape but whatever. Still, that's not much bigger than Crawford who nobody will be calling a massive welterweight when he steps up.
Terence Crawford will be a massive welterweight, that’s for sure. He has regularly rehydrated around the 157lbs mark for his world championship bouts at 140lbs, which is heavier than the rehydration weights of the likes of Mayweather Jr. and Pacquiao, but not much smaller than the likes of Ortiz and Maidana, when all these men campaigned at 147lbs.

Terence Crawford’s 157lbs rehydration fighting weight at 140lbs is the equivalent of Keith Thurman, Timothy Bradley, Adrien Broner, Robert Guerrero and Danny Garcia’s ring weight at welterweight.

When Errol Spence Jr. fought Phil Lo Greco at light middleweight, he rehydrated to 162lbs and Crawford will likely enter the ring around the same size when he competes at weltwerweight.

In fact, because he holds the IBF welterweight strap, Spence Jr. won't be allowed to weigh more than 157lbs on the morning of the fight weigh-in, which is what Crawford entered the ring weighing when he fought Viktor Postol at 140lbs.

Terence Crawford currently weighs 177lbs (heavier than what Kell Brook weighed at the 30-day weigh-in for his middleweight bout against GGG), which is absolutely fúckíng massive for a welterweight, regardless as to whether he’s currently between camps... and he's almost certainly going to be entering the ring weighing around the 165lbs mark when he faces Jeff Horn, which is huge.

Simply put: Errol Spence Jr., Lamont Peterson, Kell Brook and Terence Crawford will be regarded as the “biggest” (in terms of size) four welterweights that currently campaign at 147lbs.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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ElJefe wrote: 10 Jan 2018, 10:06
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 22:04
ElJefe wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 21:52

I can't find anything about him being 182lbs myself. I can find a tweet from him a couple of months after the Garcia fight and he was on the scales at 173lbs. Given that Terence Crawford recently posted a picture of himself weighing 177lbs, I'm not sure how much to read into Peterson weighing 173 when he was 4 months out from his next fight. I don't think anyone will be calling Crawford a massive welterweight when he steps up.
Review the hyperlinks detailed within this BoxRec thread:
viewtopic.php?t=192481

It was really easy to find that info.
So he put on 40lbs in a week, let's say 20lbs after fight night. I doubt he'd still be in good shape but whatever. Still, that's not much bigger than Crawford who nobody will be calling a massive welterweight when he steps up.
Just because Crawford will be moving up in weight doesn't mean anything. Crawford has the frame of a welterweight, but he's a notorious drainer. He's been gigantic in every weight class he's campaigned in. I'm expecting him to rehydrate to the mid-160's.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

Post by SenorPipino »

Everyone's getting too carried away with all this hydration talk and who is and who's not a huge welter.

Spence will win because he's the superior fighter over Peterson.

Same for Crawford. Too much class for Horn whether or not he's a big middle weight when he steps into the ring.

Talent will win these bouts, not size.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Lamont Peterson is an admitted PED user with most of his success coming prior to getting pinched. Since then, he has jumped up to fight better opposition twice and lost both times. Against Garcia, Peterson spent most of the fight not engaging until it was too late.

The knock on Peterson, even from his trainer, is that he's soft. Too soft hearted to be a killer in there. Spence will win this fight by knockout. No doubt in my mind. Peterson is highly overrated.
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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caldo2025 wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 09:24 Lamont Peterson is an admitted PED user with most of his success coming prior to getting pinched. Since then, he has jumped up to fight better opposition twice and lost both times. Against Garcia, Peterson spent most of the fight not engaging until it was too late.

The knock on Peterson, even from his trainer, is that he's soft. Too soft hearted to be a killer in there. Spence will win this fight by knockout. No doubt in my mind. Peterson is highly overrated.
First of all, LP is not an admitted PED user. He had a sample test positive, yes. His high levels of testosterone were proven to be consistant for theraputic use, and not performance enhancing. Khan's people even had their own doctor check into it.
Secondly, I have never heard his trainer say he is soft, not that he couldn't, but maybe did to motivate him. LP is a gym rat, and pushes everyone he has fought, and always gives it his all.
Good read if you want to know a little more about Lamont Peterson: It talks about a lot of things, including his PED test.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/o ... 88f170376c
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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all these athletes needing that theraputic testosterone eh. was it mma where i saw a list of 'therapy' users and it was fornicating massive :lol:
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Re: Spence vs. Peterson

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Very excited for this fight. Is it on PBC free tv?
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Very excited for this fight. Is it on PBC free tv?
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