Vitali Klitschko vs the greats...

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asdfjkl wrote: 24 Dec 2017, 06:34
Boxerbeetle wrote: 24 Dec 2017, 05:14
asdfjkl wrote: 24 Dec 2017, 05:05 Vitali vs Jack Dempsey Vitali KO 4
Vitali vs Joe Louis Vitali UD
Vitali vs Ali Vitali KO5
Vitali vs Joe Frazier Vitali KO 7
Vitali vs George Foreman Vitali UD
Vitali vs Mike Tyson Vitali KO4
Vitali vs Riddick Bowe Vitali UD KO7
Vitali vs Evander Holyfield Vitali KO11
Vitali vs Marciano Vitali UD
Vitali vs Jersey Joe Walcott Vitali KO 2
Vitali vs Sonny Liston Vitali UD
:lol:
He's bigger and stonger as all of them, doesn't smoke, got less fat, what do you expect?
And on top of that at least as fast. Tyson and Ali usually didn't even fight real heavyweights.
Tyson and Ali both had their share of fights early on against guys in the 190 range. Things I believe were that way for up and coming heavyweights, until the 1990s. They both beat plenty of 210 plus pound fighters. Tyson also beat his fair share of 220 lb plus guys. Just because the division has gotten bigger, doesnt mean those aren't heavyweights by even recent standards. Most of these 6'5" 250 lb plus fighters are unskilled bums and nothing more than target practice. Lewis and Vitali are exceptions. Vitali has fought I'm sure plenty above 225. And most of them were awful.
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exittored wrote: 12 Nov 2009, 12:12 Any match up between Vitali and an old time fighter has to be seen like this......either the fight takes places in their era so you have to take a couple of inches and about 20lbs off Vitali or in his era so you have to do the same to them and add 2 inches and 20lbs which would equate to a change in the average height, better diets, nutriention and supplements that fighters use to build muscle and stamina, especially someone like Vitali who has openly admitted to using steroids in the past.
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..first off I can't agree with the methodology you use to compare boxers..you just can't "shrink" one of them because doing it it won't be Vitali any more...Vitali's performance in the ring, his training, strategy and tactics were predetermined by and depended on his weight, size, speed etc...had he been smaller and lighter, he might have been a faster boxer with a better stamina...like I said it would have been a different boxer..now, as to Vitali "has openly admitted to using steroids in the past"..indeed, he has, just once as an amateur...no record of him using steroids in paid ranks that I'm aware of..just my 2 cents..

PS: :witzend: I just realised I addressed the comment made in 2009 :oops:
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I'm not sure any of them would have stopped him. The man had a chin made out of granite. If you could have put Vitali's chin on Wladimir he'd have been almost unstoppable in my view.
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The greats vs F uck all
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SteveDow wrote: 10 Jan 2018, 08:30 I'm not sure any of them would have stopped him. The man had a chin made out of granite. If you could have put Vitali's chin on Wladimir he'd have been almost unstoppable in my view.
I can imagine someone like Witherspoon, to name but one, salivating over Vitali's nice, looooong ribcage. he'd beat that into mush, so a chin alone wouldn't make Vitali unstoppable, IMO
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witherspoon gets really overrated imo. 'but on his absolute very very best day, when he shows that form that came out pretty much never, and we excuse his flawed showings because they were really don kings fault'

would still have at worst a great shot of beating up the even more overrated klit though
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jamamb wrote: 10 Jan 2018, 11:33 witherspoon gets really overrated imo. 'but on his absolute very very best day, when he shows that form that came out pretty much never, and we excuse his flawed showings because they were really don kings fault'

would still have at worst a great shot of beating up the even more overrated klit though
i'd basically agree on both points, I just think to that (Scandinavian?) dude that Witherspoon flattened, and literally deformed his face, the fight only lasted about 90 seconds or whetever and the other fella would have been feeling his ribs for weeks after, i think Spoon's style is nicely matched to hammer the body and then come over the top against a tall upright fighter.
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