Eleider Alvarez Has Withdrawn From WBC Purse Bid

[Freedom2013]

As reported by several reliable sources.

Looks like Alvarez will lose his mandatory status. Gvozdyk will either face someone else in a final eliminator, or be declared mandatory to the winner of Jack-Stevenson.

I'm hoping they have Gvozdyk fight the next highest ranked boxer.

[Enlightened-One]

As reported by several reliable sources.

Looks like Alvarez will lose his mandatory status. Gvozdyk will either face someone else in a final eliminator, or be declared mandatory to the winner of Jack-Stevenson.

I'm hoping they have Gvozdyk fight the next highest ranked boxer.

You told the forum that you weren't following boxing anymore and even created a thread about it, but it seems you've gone back on your word.

I'd say you're a less than reliable source, won't you agree?

[Freedom2013]

As reported by several reliable sources.

Looks like Alvarez will lose his mandatory status. Gvozdyk will either face someone else in a final eliminator, or be declared mandatory to the winner of Jack-Stevenson.

I'm hoping they have Gvozdyk fight the next highest ranked boxer.

You told the forum that you weren't following boxing anymore and even created a thread about it, but it seems you've gone back on your word.

You'd love to be rid of me, wouldn't you? Because I support the fighters you hate.

I was turned off by the crooked officiating in the two Kovalev-Ward fights, and wasn't following boxing much in the second half of last year.

I'd say you're a less than reliable source, won't you agree?

I'd say I'm a very reliable source for boxing news. You can't find anything I've ever posted about boxing that was incorrect.

But here's a link:

http://www.BS.com/eleider-alva ... id--124174

[Enlightened-One]

As reported by several reliable sources.

Looks like Alvarez will lose his mandatory status. Gvozdyk will either face someone else in a final eliminator, or be declared mandatory to the winner of Jack-Stevenson.

I'm hoping they have Gvozdyk fight the next highest ranked boxer.

You told the forum that you weren't following boxing anymore and even created a thread about it, but it seems you've gone back on your word.

You'd love to be rid of me, wouldn't you? Because I support the fighters you hate.

I was turned off by the crooked officiating in the two Kovalev-Ward fights, and wasn't following boxing much in the second half of last year.

I'd say you're a less than reliable source, won't you agree?

I'd say I'm a very reliable source for boxing news. You can't find anything I've ever posted about boxing that was incorrect.

But here's a link:

http://www.BS.com/eleider-alva ... id--124174

I can find plenty of evidence of you going back on your word, such as promising to stop following boxing, but clearly not doing so, which means your word is worthless, You basically lie, therefore you (personally) shouldn't be considered a reliable source.

You shouldn't be offended by anything I've said though, because you were the person that created a thread boldly proclaiming your desire to stop following boxing, a sport you previously claimed to dislike. So if you're angry at someone, you should take a look at the mirror.

Aren’t you part of a group of veteran members of this forum, who openly admit to wholeheartedly supporting almost exclusively white Eastern European fighters, also aggressively deride Americans, whilst proudly admitting to being “not pro black”?

Here's a collection of some of the other silly fúckíng ignorant and/or racist things you've wrote:

• I am losing my interest in boxing - too much injustice going on.

• If Kovalev gets robbed again, I won't follow boxing anymore

• I've had less enthusiasm for boxing after the Kovalev-Ward I robbery. There's no point in watching a sport where those who win are given losses.

• My own enthusiasm for the sport of boxing has greatly decreased since the robbery, I'm not watching boxing as much now.

• I'm fed up with boxing. I waste too much time watching it, only to see the same kind of robberies over and over again.

• I feel like a fool for buying PPVs and devoting so much time over the past ten years to these internet forums. I won't be posting as much in the future.

• There is too much politics and bullshit involved in boxing sometimes. - Very true.

• Russians have always been cheated by western countries in sports.

• ...thanks to a corrupt anti-Russian sanctioning organization [the WBC]

• But let's be honest: a Russian fighting in the USA is not going to receive a fair shake...

• They will try to make sure the Russian-born boxer loses and the American-born boxer wins.

• Briggs has "dramatically elevated levels of testosterone". And he's an American, so VADA has no political agenda against him.

• The American referee will permit Andre Ward to use illegal tactics, and the three American judges will once again award him the decision even if Kovalev dominates every round.

• I think the powers that be in the USA will be trying to find a way to ensure a Ward win. They don't like the idea of a Russian beating an American, even though Kovalev is an American citizen now. A win by Kovalev doesn't fit their agenda.

• So the deck will be stacked to ensure a Ward win. The ref will be on Ward's side for sure, letting him use illegal tactics and being in Kovalev's face for throwing legal punches, and the American judges will be there for him if he needs them.

• Max Kellerman and the other HBO commentators will be on Ward's side as well, scoring all the rounds for Ward, to sell the idea that he's winning the rounds that Kovalev doesn't completely dominate...

• Hilarious some of you dainties bawling about Freedom asking a legit question of whether Kovalev gets fair officiating in a dirty American boxing jurisdiction - Excellent post!

• ... it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a boxer who doesn't have an American promoter to get into the top 10 p4p.

• You believe that because RUSADA is Russian, while VADA is American, right? I think there's something shady going on with VADA (and the WBC) while RUSADA is more trustworthy.

• The WBC threw away the positive test result for Durodola, claiming something shady was going on with the Russian testing.

• It seems to me far more likely something dishonest is going on with the American testing and Povetkin's results.

• The fair and objective BoxRec computer, without the pro-American bias of most of the high-profile sportswriters, now has Wladimir Klitschko as P4P #1.

• Hopkins will be permitted by the American referee to use deliberate head butts to the ridge over the eye of Kovalev...

• There are double standards in P4P rankings which favor American boxers.

[Enlightened-One]

As reported by several reliable sources.

Looks like Alvarez will lose his mandatory status. Gvozdyk will either face someone else in a final eliminator, or be declared mandatory to the winner of Jack-Stevenson.

I'm hoping they have Gvozdyk fight the next highest ranked boxer.

"Promoter: Alvarez Won 3 Final Eliminators, No 4th With Gvozdyk!"

Earlier, BS.com's Steve Kim first reported that Eleider Alvarez has decided not to participate in Friday's WBC purse bid for a fight against Oleksandr Gvozdyk.

The World Boxing Council had recently issued an order, where they approved Adonis Stevenson's request to defend his world title against Badou Jack. And, they also ordered a final eliminator between Alvarez and Gvozdyk. The winners of the two contests would then have to face one another.

Alvarez (23-0, 11 KO's) has been the mandatory challenger to Stevenson since November of 2015, when he scored a decision win over Isaac Chilemba in a WBC final eliminator.

Alvarez then picked up a final eliminator win over Lucian Bute with a knockout in February of last year, then went through with another final eliminator with Jean Pascal in June - and won that fight with a twelve round decision.

The 33-year old native of Colombia was expected to fight Stevenson in December - but the champion was angling to stray away from Alvarez and instead go forward with a more lucrative fight, with Jack, who is promoted by Floyd Mayweather.

Alvarez's promoter, Yvon Michel of GYM, has responded to BS's story, explaining why they saw no point in doing another final eliminator with Gvozdyk (14-0, 11 KO's).

"Alvarez has wins in three final title eliminator and currently hold wins versus the #9, #10 and #12 WBC contenders. He has stepped aside only once, never got money for it and we can’t see the logic to have to do a fourth title eliminator. He is number one on merits! His goal is to fight against the champion," Michel stated to BS.com.

Michel is also the promoter of Stevenson, but the champion's career moves are being guided by his manager, Al Haymon - so the Canadian promoter is caught in the middle.

It's not clear if the WBC will remove Alvarez from his mandatory position, order the winner of Stevenson-Jack to fight Gvozdyk or make the Ukrainian boxer fight someone else.

For the record, Oleksandr Gvozdyk is promoted by Top Rank and both Adonis Stevenson and also Eleider Alvarez are with GYM & Al Haymon.

[jewboypgh]

Stevenson is the biggest vagina in boxing. He is scared to death of Kovalev.

[Mexi-Box]

Shameful, shameful duck of Gvozdyk. He was happy to do it against past prime fighters like Pascal and Bute, though. Also, didn't he willingly take the step-aside money all those times?

[Enlightened-One]

Shameful, shameful duck of Gvozdyk. He was happy to do it against past prime fighters like Pascal and Bute, though. Also, didn't he willingly take the step-aside money all those times?

Read the article again. You've clearly missed pertinent details.

[Freedom2013]

Shameful, shameful duck of Gvozdyk. He was happy to do it against past prime fighters like Pascal and Bute, though. Also, didn't he willingly take the step-aside money all those times?

[filibert]

He has stepped aside only once, never got money for it...

Totally false, he did receive money to step aside... http://www.journaldequebec.com/2017/11/ ... -stevenson

[ldlamb]

That article doesn't say anything about his actually receiving step aside money.

[Freedom2013]

This is a disgraceful, shameful DUCK on the part of Alvarez. He just doesn't want to fight a good, prime opponent.

[klitoris]

This is quite a funny duck.
First Alvarez takes step aside money 3 times in a row.

Then the WBC orders Alvarez to fight another contender since for 4 years nobody has been able to get a title shot (except Alvarez that he rejected 3 times for money) and Alvarez starts complaining that he hasn't gotten a title shot.
IT'S LIKE: "DUDE WHO ASKED YOU TAKE THAT STEP ASIDE MONEY 3 TIMES? LOL"

Does Michel and Alvarez really think people are this stupid to not put this together?

[Mexi-Box]

This is quite a funny duck.
First Alvarez takes step aside money 3 times in a row.

Then the WBC orders Alvarez to fight another contender since for 4 years nobody has been able to get a title shot (except Alvarez that he rejected 3 times for money) and Alvarez starts complaining that he hasn't gotten a title shot.
IT'S LIKE: "DUDE WHO ASKED YOU TAKE THAT STEP ASIDE MONEY 3 TIMES? LOL"

Does Michel and Alvarez really think people are this stupid to not put this together?

Exactly this. Anyone defending this is a complete and utter clown. It's a duck.

[Mexi-Box]

Shameful, shameful duck of Gvozdyk. He was happy to do it against past prime fighters like Pascal and Bute, though. Also, didn't he willingly take the step-aside money all those times?

Read the article again. You've clearly missed pertinent details.

It's a duck. Just like you know that PBC fighters are notoriously inactive. This is a known duck.

[boxing_rocks]

This is quite a funny duck.
First Alvarez takes step aside money 3 times in a row.

Then the WBC orders Alvarez to fight another contender since for 4 years nobody has been able to get a title shot (except Alvarez that he rejected 3 times for money) and Alvarez starts complaining that he hasn't gotten a title shot.
IT'S LIKE: "DUDE WHO ASKED YOU TAKE THAT STEP ASIDE MONEY 3 TIMES? LOL"

Does Michel and Alvarez really think people are this stupid to not put this together?

Exactly this. Anyone defending this is a complete and utter clown. It's a duck.

Saying that EO is an utter clown is tautology like saying that butter is fat.

[jockpunk]

fornicate alvarez. fornicate al haymon.

[Freedom2013]

WBC Will Soon Make Ruling on Stevenson, Alvarez, Gvozdyk Issue

http://www.BS.com/wbc-soon-mak ... ue--124204

[Freedom2013]

Shameful, shameful duck of Gvozdyk. He was happy to do it against past prime fighters like Pascal and Bute, though. Also, didn't he willingly take the step-aside money all those times?

Read the article again. You've clearly missed pertinent details.

It's a duck. Just like you know that PBC fighters are notoriously inactive. This is a known duck.

[Enlightened-One]

"WBC move to bullet point the hold-up of the light-heavyweight mandatory ahead of final decision" (Source: World Boxing News):

Eledier Alvarez has officially notified the WBC that he is withdrawing from the WBC-ordered Interim World Championship fight against Oleksandr Gvozdyk.

The WBC Board of Governors will now look into the effect of Mr. Alvarez’ decision on the overall status of the division and will produce an official ruling thereabout in the following days.

The WBC finds it necessary to provide at this point the chronological background facts that have led to the present status of the division. It is important to set the record straight putting the facts in black and white. That way, the affected boxers and the public will have a clear idea of every occurrence that has affected the division in recent years. We have created a simple timeline as follows:

2013

May 25 - Tony Bellew becomes mandatory challenger UD vs Chilemba

June 8 - Adonis Stevenson wins the WBC title KO1 over Chad Dawson

Sept 28 - Stevenson beats Tavoris Cloud in a voluntary defense

Nov 30 - Stevenson wins KO6 vs Bellew in a mandatory defense

*2013 WBC Convention ruling - Jean Pascal to fight Lucien Bute with the winner becoming the next mandatory of the division of the division for November 2014.

2014

Jan 18 - Pascal defeats Bute UD12 and becomes mandatory contender.

May 24 - Stevenson defeats Fonfara UD12 in a voluntary defense.

* Stevenson requests a voluntary defense with a commitment that the winner would fight mandatory challenger Jean Pascal next.

Oct 25 - Eleider Alvarez defeats Ryno Lindberg TKO7 and wins WBC Silver title.

* Mandatory challenger Jean Pascal withdraws from his WBC mandatory challenger position and signs to fight Sergey Kovalev.

Dec 19 – Stevenson defeats Dmitry Suhkotskiy KO5 in a voluntary defense.

*2014 WBC Convention ruling - The WBC mediated to have an unprecedented ruling mandating WBC champion Stevenson to fight the winner of Kovalev vs Pascal which would comply with his mandatory title defense obligations.

2015

March 14 - Kovalev KO7 Pascal winning WBC diamond belt and becoming mandatory for Stevenson.

April 14 - Stevenson UD Bika in a voluntary defense

* After several months of negotiations Kovalev withdraws from fighting Stevenson so the division is left without a mandatory challenger.

Aug 10 - WBC orders Chilemba vs Fonfara as final elimination for the mandatory position.

Aug 15 - Alvarez UD Ranoni defending silver title.

*Fonfara withdraws from final elimination vs Chilemba

Aug 25 - WBC orders Chilemba vs Alvarez final elimination.

Sep 11 - Stevenson KO3 Karpency in a voluntary defense.

Nov 28 - Alvarez UD Chilemba earning mandatory challenger position.

*2015 WBC Convention ruling - Chilemba vs Alvarez final elimination to determine mandatory contender. During the Convention, Kathy Duva and Yvon Michell confirmed they were still having discussions for the Stevenson vs Kovalev Superfight and the WBC confirmed its support if that fight materialized.

2016

July 11 - Stevenson defeats Thomas Williams in a voluntary defense KO4.

Aug 11 - WBC orders free negotiations for mandatory defense Stevenson vs Alvarez.

Sept 13 - GYM confirms WBC that an agreement has been reached so purse offer is cancelled.

* Alvarez requests WBC to accept his fight vs Bute as a defense of the WBC Silver title and also to be a final elimination with the winner being the mandatory of the division.

*2016 WBC Convention ruling - WBC accepts Alvarez’ request to fight Bute with the winner becoming the division’s mandatory challenger. Stevenson is free to do a voluntary defense because the mandatory contender is not available.

2017

Feb 24 - Alvarez defeats Bute KO5 and confirms his mandatory status.

Feb 26 - WBC orders a free negotiation period for Stevenson vs Alvarez.

Mar 24 - Alvarez informs the WBC that he has agreed to step aside to allow Stevenson a voluntary defense.

*WBC Board in favor of ordering another final elimination to have a second mandatory contender.

June 3 - Stevenson KO2 Fonfara in voluntary defense.

June 3 - Alvarez MD12 Pascal confirming Alvarez’ mandatory position.

June 19 - WBC orders free negotiation period for Stevenson v. Alvarez.

*WBC is informed that there is an agreement and that the fight will happen in December at the latest.

*2017 WBC Convention ruling - Champion Adonis Stevenson is scheduled to make a mandatory defense against No. 1 ranked Eleider Alvarez in December. Number 2 Oleksandr Gvozdyk against number 4 Marcus Browne was approved as a final eliminator and when we know the availability of Barrera, he will fight the highest available contender.

*Results from the ruling

- Stevenson request to fight vs former champion Badou Jack.

- Alvarez reports he has agreed to step aside.

- Marcus Browne Withdraws from fighting the final elimination

- WBC orders Gvozdyk vs Sullivan Barrera as a final eliminator. Barrera withdraws from the fight.

Dec 8 - The WBC Board of Governors made a new ruling on the division which was:

- Allow Stevenson vs Jack with the winner committed to fight the mandatory next.

- Order Alvarez to fight Gvozdyk for the WBC Interim World title and mandatory challenger position, with the winner fighting the winner of Stevenson vs Jack. Purse bid date January 12 2018.

2018

Jan 10 - Alvarez withdraws from participating in WBC Interim World Championship fight.

The WBC Board of Governors is in the process of analyzing this situation in depth and will issue an official ruling soon.

[Enlightened-One]

In the context of the above post and assuming the WBC’s timeline is 100% accurate, which it seems to be, it’s kind of easy to understand the reason why Adonis Stevenson has failed to perform a mandatory defence of his world title for the last 4½ years:

• Jean Pascal and Sergey Kovalev both withdrew from their mandatory challenger position, so they rejected a guaranteed opportunity face Adonis Stevenson.

• Marcus Browne, Sullivan Barrera, Andrzej Fonfara and Eleider Alvarez have all withdrawn from final eliminators.

• Eleider Alvarez defeated Jean Pascal, Isaac Chilemba and Lucian Bute in final eliminators, rejected an opportunity to engage in a fourth so-called "final eliminator" and also agreed to step-aside twice.

FFS! What can the WBC do? How can they strip Adonis Stevenson of his WBC world title when the likes of Jean Pascal, Sergey Kovalev, Marcus Browne, Sullivan Barrera, Andrzej Fonfara and Eleider Alvarez have all rejected opportunities to challenge for their world championship?

There’s an awful lot of haters that frequent this forum that will almost certainly be utterly powerless to provide a factually relevant answer to this question, but it’ll be fun to see them try!

[Freedom2013]

Truth is, Alvarez avoided Gvozdyk because he's a good prime undefeated light heavyweight. He has no problem facing old faded guys like Bute and Pascal.

To stay active, he'll likely fight whatever faded old man or clubfighter his management sets up for him.

Fights between top 10 ten guys like Alvarez and Gvosdyk are what the fans want to see and are good for the sport, but there is a lot of ducking going on.

[marvelous marv]

Gvozdyk is just ducking Kovalev, where he is the number 1 ranked contender in the WBO. Gvozdyk is ducking Beterbiev where he is the top ranked contender in the IBF. He is also avoiding Bivol in WBA where he is highly ranked.

Also Sullivan Barrera and Marcus Browne are available but he never contacted either guy.

So basically Gvozdyk would rather fight for an interim title rather than a full world title because it's easier.

[Freedom2013]

Gvozdyk is just ducking Kovalev, where he is the number 1 ranked contender in the WBO. Gvozdyk is ducking Beterbiev where he is the top ranked contender in the IBF. He is also avoiding Bivol in WBA where he is highly ranked.

Also Sullivan Barrera and Marcus Browne are available but he never contacted either guy.

So basically Gvozdyk would rather fight for an interim title rather than a full world title because it's easier.

Wrong. Browne turned down a final eliminator against Gvozdyk. Barrera has no desire to fight him either.

[marvelous marv]

So you admit he ducked the other three champions? Got it